Minor rant. I’m saddled here at my gig with two legacy staff and they’ve never actually been trained in database maintenance. Due tot hat they don’t think database, if you get me. They don’t think about what they’re doing and the impact it’ll have on the DB.
So I just spent an hour fixing by hand about 200 records one of them screwed up.
There’ll be a sharp memo about this, I promise you.
Every single day I have to deal with the people and database combo like you just mentioned.
When the fish is through, send him to me for a midnight snack.
I’d eat you, but you have a higher post count.
I just got my “due tot hat” back from a friend of mine. Boy, was I relieved.
And aside from my being a smart-ass, I do feel your pain.
“duet o that”?
I hope your memo is not directed as bitching at these people who may have been trying to do their best without being trained.
Oh, and the term ‘legacy staff’ (if it means what I think it means) is really quite insulting although it’s not as bad as ‘heritage staff’.
What’s insulting about the term “legacy staff”?
Is it because it implies that after a merger, the only reason these folks were kept on is because of a promise made to them or to keep up appearances, and they are really inept?
I’ve never heard the term before.
I made it up on the spot to imply that I inherited them.
This thread reminds me of reading Kafka.
I hate hate hate when someone messes with my databases and I have to fix records by hand. Then any typos automatically become my fault! :mad:
I feel your pain.
Sorry if I came off a bit rude.
In my experience, the terms heritage and legacy staff refer to the staff who have been (for many years) working on the IT solutions that kept the company profitable all those years.
When the newer technologies came into play, the staff who had extensive skills in some of the older technologies were referred to as heritage staff or legacy staff implying that they were of the ‘old world’ and should be ‘preserved’, but weren’t useful. When used with the right vocal inflections, the terms are insulting.
By older technologies I mean COBOL, anything mainframe, etc.
So, I made the assumption that because these guys ‘didn’t know databases’ that you terming them legacy staff implied that they were ‘over the hill’ with regards to their abilities and should be pensioned off.
If that’s not what you meant (and maybe it’s just a co-incidence of terminology) then I apologise.
Yeah, I probably took it from ‘legacy software’ or some such buzzword.
But one is 26 and the other is 21. I’m trying to train them but it’s just not taking. Prior management never did more than tell them ‘do this’ so there’s no understanding of why they’re doing what they’re doing.
Simple solution… hire me instead 
I don’t know squat about being a DBA but I can learn “real good”.
Hey!
I’m the DBA here! It’s the staff that’s giving me trouble.
[sub]Dang kids. Always gunning for my job.[/sub]
Want a résumé? I have experience on everything from the Dictaphone Dual Display’s archaic database system on 8" floppies to Access '97 in database creation and management, and am a quick study in “doing what it takes to create what the boss wants to accomplish.”
You really want to re-locate up here, Poly?
No fooling that I’ll have an entry level job in August if our move goes well.
Alternately, a headhunter contacted me about moving to Winston-Salem and taking over circulation for an electronic publisher. If the money’s right I might do it.
So clue me in on NC, son!
::notes that Winston-Salem is under 300 miles from where he is currently living, whereas “On the run with Kilroy” is 400+::
Plus you’d get to work with Polycarp. Who could ask for anything mooooooooore?
[sub]Unless, of course, I misread your entire post…[/sub]
Pardon me for my ignorance, but where the hell is “On the run with Kilroy?”
“He lives on a mountaintop in north Vee Ay,
Outside of Dee Cee, where the Senators play;
Picked him a nickname, right out of Styx,
Writes him some posts, that challenge stupid pricks!
Johnny, Johnny Cha-ance
King of the Old Blue Ridge.”
–to the tune of Davy Crockett
That’s funnier than you know, Poly.
Now answer the question!