In Idaho, where I am, smoking marijuana is easily as criminal as shitting your pants is.
What? Like I said, I live in Idaho; we don’t even allow medical marijuana here. We have aggressive cops here. This area is full of religious busybodys who would totally call those cops. So no, nobody is going to be toking out in public on the street. And like I said I’m personally a really boring person and even if I do happen to know any criminal scum, they know I’m a dull old stick in the mud and wouldn’t bust out the fun stuff around me.
I hear that completely drunk people sometimes have impaired judgement that leads them to conclude they’re totally not too impaired to drive. And if a completely sloshed dude hasn’t gotten in a wreck yet, that’s clear and unassailable proof that drunk driving is completely safe.
Wouldn’t really bother me. It’s technically not legal in CA yet, but where I live (SF Bay Area), you see people smoking pot in public all the time. Most people don’t seem to care. Just don’t be shouting: HEY, I’M GETTING HIGH OVER HERE!!!
I’m getting it just fine. I have already posted a cite from the BMJ that marijuana use increases the incidence of vehicle crashes, especially those involving fatalities. You, on the other hand, have produced nothing besides the repeated assertion that you have been breaking the law for years, and have gotten away with it.
I was out in SF a few years ago, the smell of Kind Nuggets allow was ubiquitous.
The most shocking event i witnessed was passing a guy, while i was walking down Mission street on a Sunday morning. He was stark ass naked with the exception of his shoes and socks. I wasn’t upset, miffed or outraged by the event, just shocked that he was so nonchalant.
Yes. Because while you may be using daily to relax, not everyone has the same goals as you, and not everyone has the same source of drugs, or the same reaction.
I have bounced extremely aggressive cannabis and hash smokers from house parties. YMMV.
I play a game when riding my motorcycle called drunk, stoned, or texting.
The stoned drivers (and it’s obvious, since some are smoking as they drive) weave as much as the texters and in general do not react to what is happening right in front of them, such as stopping for red lights or moving forward at green lights.
When it comes to driving it’s variations from the norm that cause crashes, and marijuana users do not react like other drivers.
I honestly think that your self-assessment of being completely unimpaired by marijuana (which you developed while impaired by marijuana) isn’t worth the rolling paper it’s printed on.
And as to whether driving stoned is as bad driving drunk, I think it (very obviously) depends on exactly how stoned/drunk you are. There are reports of people passing out due to smoking weed. If that happens to you while you’re going 75, then yeah, you’re a bigger hazard than a dude who’s had one beer.
Notice they can’t even agree on what ng/mL concentration equals impairment. They also point out that traffic fatality statistics with respect to cannabis don’t factor in other things such as alcohol, speed, age,other mechanical conditions or environmental factors. Merely having THC in ones system is no real indication of being “loaded.”
That said, driving is a terrible idea while using. It shouldn’t be necessary for anyone to need to be told that.
My takeaway so far: anyone here who maintains that driving stoned is any concern have either not actually done so themselves (and ignorantly relying on dubious data) or should maybe not consider doing so if they’re really that super-skittish about it.
Alcohol is a whole different kettle of fish and should be universally avoided if you’re driving, period, but driving stoned is such a cakewalk - something that the cops here in my environs have long understood, and something that is such an absolute nothingburger that if DUI-stoned laws around these parts are actually ever implemented, they sure-as-ducky won’t get enforced.
Cueing alarmist “well I hope you stoners all end up crashing into each other, then” in 3…2…1…
(yeah and like that’s ever been much of an epidemic here)
Wow, not really worth responding because your point is so far out of touch with reality in this. Do you want a stoned surgeon operating on you? Do you want the pilots, on your next flight, smoking cannabis as they wait to take off? You want stoners running around the south 40 with live ammunition in their weapons? How about a dentist who blazes up before drilling one of your teeth? None of this should be a problem if you believe what you’re saying.
I really don’t get it. There’s a time and a place, and it certainly isn’t behind the wheel of a moving car.
