Why is there more cruelty in preparing dogmeat than in preparing horsemeat?
Because the folks here in this part of the world believe in the utter bullshit that said cruelty is necessary for the dog’s muscles to have enough adrenaline in them to sufficiently increase “male stamina” for the human consuming the meat. As I mentioned above (I think I did), there’s no such mythology surrounding horsemeat consumption to no intentional cruelty involved.
What? I don’t understand any of that. Literally, it looks like word salad to me. I’m sure it means something to people who habitually prepare meat, but I need smaller words.
I’m in Asia.
In this part of the world, many men love to consume other animals, even endangered animals, to increase “male stamina”.
“Male stamina” means having an erect penis longer than natural.
The idiots, and it’s quite a lot of them, believe that torturing the dog makes the meat more effective to increase human male stamina.
They justify that with the nonsense about how the animal’s suffering generates adrenaline so the meat is more effective to give the human a hard dick.
You’re looking for logic? I said their justification is myth. It’s bullshit. And it’s cruel.
I’ve no idea why this nonsense is not extended to horses. My unresearched and complete WAG is that horses have historically been more valuable for farm work, transportation, etc., than dogs in Asia and thus such consumption of horses would be detrimental to the farms, etc.
Why am I now reminded of the recent thread on the meaning of “schwanzstucker”?
And when I was a kid, telling me that the meat was rattlesnake would have made me more likely to eat it, not less (I had a similar experience with bear meat once at my grandparents’ house). But I would be very reluctant to eat anything made with squirrel meat unless I was thoroughly assured that the cook knew how to prepare it, not because of any sort of ethical concerns, but because improperly-prepared squirrel stinks to high heavens.
Oh, get your head out of the gutter. You know very well I mean “The short toast vs. the Jewish toast; the short wedding vs. the Jewish wedding; the short goodbye vs. the Jewish goodbye; the short blessing vs. the Jewish blessing; the short dinner vs. the Jewish dinner.” 
How disgusting. I can take but little satisfaction in knowing that meat from tortured animals tastes horrible in comparison to placid meat in particular because of the adrenaline.
I hope it shrivels up and falls off those who believe in torturing dogs.
Okay, that’s really horrible. Dog is off my menu, for sure. Heck, I don’t eat US veal because they cage the baby herd animals, which seems needlessly cruel. Yeah, it gives you white meat in a larger-than-newborn animal. Not worth it.
Indeed, I remember reading an article (print article, so no link) about “farms” in China that raised Saint Bernard dogs solely for the purpose of eating them. They were kept in cages in horrific conditions, and according to the article, tortured because of some alleged benefit to the meat (I had not heard the “male stamina” angle).
The article mentioned a Swiss organization attempting to protest the practice. This was in 2001, a fact I remember because I was so shocked I was considering what could be done to stop it, and then 9/11 happened and suddenly we all had other things to worry about.
A dog is not food. A dog is a good friend and loyal companion, wanting only to love and be loved, like a child who never grows old.
I don’t personally have the same emotional connection to horses, but I have some friends who participate in equestrian sports and I know that horses are much beloved by those who own them. They have been in the service of humanity since ancient times, often enduring terrible hardships, and I would hope that we would be moral enough to have more respect than to kill them and eat them like savages.
I’ve eaten dog when I lived in South Korea not my favorite meat it was a bit stringy. I’d have no problem eating it again.
There is a 50/50 chance I ate horse when I was in Paraguay two years ago I ordered a Caballo steak misreading it as caballero steak. It was dry and chewy and something I made sure not to order again but aside from not enjoying it I finished my meal.
The only time I get weirded out by food is when they look too much like the animal I’m eating. So I’m not a big fan of chicken feet or that time as a basque restaurant when I was served a whole tongue and I don’t overly enjoy pig cheeks when they serve the whole head and you care it yourself. I’m not weirded out but I don’t enjoy brain, or most organ meat though I don’t mind heart.
I’ve had horse meat before, and I liked it.<
In Japan I had all kinds of weird things, from sparrows (yes, really) to fugu (I am still alive - I think), horse meat (I think it was sashimi) and whale meat (also as sashimi). In Nepal I had goat meat, which was very rank, very tough and for some reason also very greasy.
Chinese and Japanese cuisine has a number of surprises, but at least they told me first.
I’ve had delicious kid meat in the US.
The age of the goat will make a considerable difference in the dining experience.
Goat birria and occasionally tacos aren’t particularly hard to find in my area. Not common exactly, but not super-rare either. It can be rank and greasy or quite tasty depending on prep. I’d say the birrias I’ve tried have all been tasty (stewing makes even tough cuts palatable), tacos have been a 50/50 affair. I don’t crave it, but it’s okay.
I think overall I’m batting better on goat than mutton. I love lamb, but I’ve yet to have a mutton dish I thoroughly enjoyed - most have been just edible at best. But that’s probably just luck of the draw - I don’t go out of my way to eat either.
Isn’t that pretty much true of horses these days too?
I wouldn’t have a problem eating basically anything tasty, safe for human consumption, and ethically/sustainably raised. I agree that someone who springs this info on you after you’ve already eaten is is kind of a jerk unless they’re sure that you already agree with the first sentence of this paragraph.
I have eaten human placenta, and I don’t think there’s anything morally wrong with doing so, so no. But I’d probably be pissed off by proxy, since almost anyone else would be pissed off in this circumstance, so it seems like my host is just trying to piss me off.
I think it’s mostly just cultural familiarity, not a detailed moral calculus. People don’t want to think of the dog they have as a pet while they’re eating dinner. In different cultures, the pet/food animal division occurs in different places. Like, people in the US keep guinea pigs as pets, but in Peru they’re raised as meat animals. Rabbits are an interesting species straddling the divide. They were more common as meat animals once, now (I think?) more common as pets. I bet very few people who keep rabbits as pets are comfortable eating them.
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This happened to me, as well. The ‘hosts’ were perplexed when I didn’t freak out and just kinda shrugged at them after the reveal.
This made me pee my pants laughing! 
I had scorpionfish in Croatia.
It was not properly prepared.
I had the shits and shivers within hours and was then hospitalized for three days.
All animals are food if you’re hungry enough. Although as I recall the folks on the Lewis and Clark expedition, so much tougher hombres than you or I, had to get very hungry before they willingly ate a bear.
As to horses and dogs specifically many tons of each are being eaten by humans every day. I’ve not had the opportunity, but wouldn’t balk for a moment.
Though as so many have said, the sorts of people who try to pull “Surprise!” practical jokes are not the sort of people I enjoy hanging out with. The Surprise! they get back might just close their eyes.
In South Korea, you say? Then there’s a high possibility that you also consumed cat at the same time, not to mention that the animals which met their fate on your plate very well may have been someone’s pet, or even a Jindo dog, one of Korea’s national treasures. And, yes, the consumption of dog in Korea is rife with what I have posted in this thread. Also, dog is not considered by law to be a domestic meat animal. The problem is that it’s not yet prohibited as such either, although there is a growing movement to prohibit its consumption.
How many times does it have to be said? The problem with eating dog is not that it’s meat. The problem is the intentional cruelty inflicted on the animal. Everything you hear from those supporting dogmeat consumption in Asia is nonsense.
Here is an article about closing dog meat markets in Korea. It does not take a trained eye to notice that those animals are not one breed raised for meat. And here is a good overview of the situation by Wiki.
Here is a petition to ban dogmeat consumption in China. Interesting note at the bottom:
UPDATE MAY 29, 2020: China has officially removed dogs from the list of “livestock,” or animals that may be commercially bred, transported and sold for food. This is a tremendous step forward, though China has still not banned dog or cat meat outright. We commend their great progress, and urge them to enact — and enforce — a permanent, nationwide ban against all dog and cat meat.
Do a web search on dog consumption in Asia. But be prepared for some rather horrific pictures and videos.
Well, admittedly this was 30 years ago. But it was prepared by my neighbor from dogs she raised for the purpose. I’m not sure where she would have gotten a cat to add in. I guess you could call them pets since I played with them when they were puppies but they were kept separately and she brought it a batch of puppies every spring. We lived above them for 5 years and never witnessed them treating the dogs poorly aside from the fact they were slaughtered.
I have no doubt that your railing about eating dogs in Asia is generally true but it wasn’t in my limited experience a long time ago.