Would this woman date you? (Political...very political)

Aw. I was nailing the test until the very last line. But in my defence “Get out of my way you cripple fucks!” is just my catch phrase. I use it ironically.

That poor girl has more loose screws than an old Studebaker.

I’d probably fumble it at “How do you work to dismantle sexism and misogyny in your life?”. Not because I’m pro-sexism but because I’d struggle to lay out a bunch of active bonafides beyond not being a dick.

Even if I got past that one – maybe I could say I donated $10 to a pro-feminist website so they could protect me from Trump – she’d be reaching for the check at #5 when I say that, while I certainly won’t defend every action, I’m certainly more pro-Israel than the average internet blogging social justice liberal.

That list is why she’s still single. Girl better get herself to a kitchen and learn how to cook.

Setting aside the sexual orientation questions as directed by the OP, and the issue of being a married man, and also setting aside my own interest in dating her, I think I’d do ok on most of her checklist questions. That said, I think if we moved into an discussion of nuance on those issues, I suspect I may move into fail territory. The ‘how are you making the world better in this way’ questions I would probably fail. And the one checklist question about capitalism would fail me: while being basically left-of-center by US standards, I am in favor of well-regulated capitalism.

So, in short, she would not date me. And I think that’s ok.

I actually pass her litmus test but I doubt we’d hit it off. If her attitude was “this is how I am; deal with it” that would be cool, but her prescriptiveness — “this is how you should be; and you should already have known that, these are the universe’s requirements and I’m just echoing them” — would grate on me and I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t take long before I’d express a sentiment or attitude she’d find repellent and inappropriate and that would be that.

  1. Do you believe that Black Lives Matter?
    Obviously black lives matter, but I have very little respect for Black Lives Matter

  2. What are your thoughts on gender and sexual orientation?
    People can get on with their lives, it doesn’t bother me, but I still roll my eyes at the ridiculous language used by the outskirts of this movement.

  3. How do you work to dismantle sexism and misogyny in your life?
    I don’t, as I do not have any.

  4. What are your thoughts on sex work?
    It should be considered a normal job, it is not inherently exploitative

  5. Are you a supporter of the BDS movement?
    No, not at all

  6. What is your understanding of settler colonialism and indigenous rights?
    Taking the US as the example, the ancestors of whites were atrocious to the ancestors of NA, but any currently alive Native American is not being exploited

  7. Do you think capitalism is exploitative?
    Capitalism is the worst possible system, except for every other system that has ever been tried.

  8. Can any human be illegal?
    Yes

  9. Do you support Muslim Americans and non-Muslim people from Islamic countries?
    I have no intrinsic hatred to any Muslim or actually treat them differently but on a case by case basis I would have some extra suspicion.

  10. Does your allyship include disabled folks?
    Yes, this is about the only question I didn’t roll my eyes at in her explanation.

So from her standpoint I’d guess 9 failures out of 10, which is lucky as I don’t think I could stand to listen to her for more then 30 seconds before running out of the room.

They could be tough to work into a conversation. Or maybe not, maybe you just bring them up as topics of interest. I don’t imagine her meeting too many people off Tinder. Maybe she meets someone at a rally somewhere, and starts talking about other rallies she’s been to and sees how it develops.

It sounds to me like you don’t care too much about these issues. They are not your passion. If they are her passion, and something she wants to share with her life partner, then she may as well weed out all those people who aren’t into that, and the faster the better. She probably doesn’t want someone as a partner who feels awkward discussing politics. She wants someone who thinks “Yay, politics! Here’s something I can talk about.” Normally, it’s a touchy subject, because it might derail an otherwise pleasant interaction if there is a disagreement. That doesn’t really apply to her.

I like discussing politics, but part of that enjoyment stems from the acceptance that my co-debaters and I are neither in complete agreement nor expecting to reach it. We may come out better informed, maybe change our minds about something, but we don’t expect to be in full agreement, only in full acceptance. She doesn’t seem to have that mindset at all.

I think we’re largely in agreement but I lack her intensity of belief and she’d quickly become disillusioned with me.

That sounds like too much work.

She seems very specific, and I am very non-specific. I try to be a good, decent, and considerate person, but I am not politically active, and most of my principles are simple and standard.

She and I may be friends, as we probably wouldn’t disagree on much, but she’d probably be a handful to talk to when she was tipsy.

I’m not sure where this idea that she presents these questions on the first date comes from. She just presents these as questions that you need to know the answer to before getting too close.

My main disagreement is teh Palestitnian issue. What does it have to with any form of feminism? It’s not as simple as the Israelis are the patriarchy. Both sides hate each other and try to destroy each other. As bad as what Israel has done to Palestinians, Palestinians have supported wiping Israel off the map. It’s a complicated subject, and you can’t just shoehorn it into the patriarchal paradigm.

The rest all seem appropriate, and seem like things I would expect not to be negotiable. They mostly aren’t even political issues, but core moral ones. Looking through the list, I would summarize them as:

[ul]
[li]Bigotry of any kind (sex/race/class/gender/LGBT/disability/religion) is a deal breaker. [/li][li]You must be willing to listen to ideas about those issues from the people who experience them. [/li][li]You must be introspective and not assume that you are immune to bigotry [as people who aren’t will be accidental bigots]. [/li][li]You must not ignore the plight of sex workers. [/li][li]Must be pro-Palestinian [not good for reasons stated above]. [/li][li]Must be smart enough to know that Natives of any country still face problems. [/li][li]Not one of those free-market is god types, and recognize capitalistic exploitation of the black community. [/li][li]Must be very pro-immigration and anti-border, realizing that we are all ultimately descended from immigrants. [/li][/ul]

I just don’t see a big deal about these. The first 3 make sense for everyone. Since she’s not saying you have to think sex working is some feminist thing, but just to listen to them, that works. too. (I assume she likely works to help them, which is why that issue is important to her.)

Thinking that anti-Native bigotry is over is stupid, and stupidity is a decent dealbreaker. The free market is not perfect, and exploitation is wrong, even if the market allows it. Believing otherwise suggests a “money makes things acceptable” mentality, which is indeed something it makes sense to not want.

And then there’s the Palestinian one (stupid) and the pro-immigration one, which makes logical sense, but I think may be a bit overkill.

(And if you wonder where I put “Black Lives Matter,” it’s in 2. That’s how she presents it. It’s not in the form “must support the BLM movement.” It’s listening to minorities about systemic racism and privilege.)

We agree on the broad strokes, as we’re both far left but also she strikes me as someone I do not want to associate with. A place where we’d differ, ironically, is gender, given how much she thinks she’s doing it for the trans people or whatever. She’s being awfully sanctimonious about completely dismantling the gender binary and acting like she’s doing transpeople a favor which, aside from acting like she’s supporting transpeople, is like literally what “Gender Critical” TERFs say.

Which isn’t to say there’s not a place on the spectrum for nonbinary people (or off the spectrum for agender people), nor that people of any identity can’t dress or act whatever way they goddamn please. Fully support men in dresses, women with shaved heads, whatever. But “dismantling the gender binary”? Nah. Fuck that, I’m a chick, I don’t want society as an an amorphous blob with no conception of gender identity.

3 would be a sticking point because I’m not super into feminist activism. If I were to do activism it’d more likely be antifascist or working to build less capitalist communities locally, but I’m not too much in a position to volunteer much of my time to political causes right now.

IDK enough about 5, but I generally am not on Israel’s side with many thing in the conflict.

8 would probably be the biggest sticking point. I heartily agree that in a theoretical, perfect world it’s boggling borders are a thing, even if I think a community has some right to dictate who uses its space for what (it’s necessary to keep out actually bad people like rapists or nazis, after all). I also agree in being humanitarian, and I don’t care about “illegal immigrants” who, largely (but not entirely), are honestly often just better termed refugees from Latin America. I believe more in working with foreign powers to fix the root causes of the migration than playing eternal whack-a-mole and a losing game against a giant land and sea border. (This is easier said than done, implies the governments are receptive to help, and we’ve had some efforts with mixed results in the past, I know).

HOWEVER, I’ll still use “illegal immigrant” because fuck this rhetoric purity test bullshit. That’s what they are, I’m not sure they should be that, but you need some terminology to disambiguate what you’re talking about and I find things like “migrant worker” more imprecise (“alien” has a poor connotation though).

All that said, Everyday Feminism is awful and I’m not entirely convinced they’re not the result of some curse or an extremely dedicated false flag. Joking, but Jesus Christ I’m about as far left as you can get before you start trying to organize an armed communist revolution and I find them exhausting.

In case anyone is wondering, photos.

Well, she thinks white people are evil so that’s cool. Maybe I could talk her into running a string of bank robberies with me. Put that evil to some good use.

But the best part is that it’s not (at least so far as I know). I would never have a chance with her, and also would not want one (even if she were the hot model in the stock photograph at the top of the article, which I gather from this thread she is probably not).

What do you have against People of Holland?

My views are certainly not diametrically opposed to those of this woman, but on the other hand we’re nowhere near the same intersection, and possibly not on the same side of the Continental Divide.

As to a physical relationship with someone so hyped on political compatibility, I’d worry that she’d demand we stop at a crucial moment to worry about how our position reflected on the plight of indigenous peoples.

She’s not but her own appearance, waifish girl with short dark hair and dark eyes, isn’t exactly an unpopular one.

I do believe Black Lives Matter. But let’s be honest; we’re done here. People with these sorts of lists don’t know what the hell they’re doing and usually have significant emotional problems.

Reading the article, I do not for an instant believe the writer is honestly stating her dating requirements. It sounds purely like she’s just showing off her political bona fides.

I think the capitalist one would disqualify me. That and the fact that I am a white male.

Her intense and absolutely dogmatic stance on a rather limited number of issues (she doesn’t seem concerned about the war in Yemen or “honor killings” in Pakistan, for example) would be a deal breaker for me. If you disagree with her about any of these questions, you aren’t just wrong, but actually a bad person.

Shame, she’s not uncomely.