Personal? Nah. It’s just that your attitude plays out in the media on the daily. First you throw out a bit of vague anti-gay sentiment to test the waters, then you quiz your buddies and family members about homosexuality, then you say some blatantly hateful things so you can really gauge how those closest to you would feel if you came out, then you go public with your “phobia” in order to make it clear to everyone how very NOT GAY!1!! you are.
In a couple years you’ll experiment in college, or a girlfriend will catch you watching gay porn on her laptop, or you’ll claim a good buddy took advantage of you while drunk. Maybe all three. But you can skip all this time wasted on hate and angst and just come out already.
Straight teenagers aren’t concerned with pecker-lookers. They are concerned with grades, dates, proms, sports, movies, music, and the bajillion things to do online that have nothing to do with a group of persons who they aren’t consumed with focusing on and chatting about. Not gay? Then shaddup. Gay? Come on in, the water’s fine.
Fun fact: Jason Queree? That guy who punched the street preachers? Is straight.
Apparently he got a tad miffed at the poor innocent Christian street preachers calling his wife a “dirty queer” as they walked by and (his previous assault convictions demonstrating his lack of self-control) took it upon himself to punch the living shit out of the people who had delivered the insult. Whereupon the horrible, hypocritical gays rushed forward to [del]join in[/del] sorry, that should read “break up the fight”. Yep, the gays came to the rescue of the people who had come to the event for the sole purpose of shouting abuse at them. What monsters these leftie homosexuals are!
“Now that you’ve come out as gay, I’d like to discuss having segregated showers and locker rooms. Now I hope we can have a mature discussion about this without you throwing hissyfits…”
Two minutes later: “Will you let me out of this locker if I apologize? Guys?”
Or maybe you act like an adult and get the fuck over yourself. Damn, I thought I already had a low opinion of people that get paid to play a game. You really have done nothing to change the image of the dumb jock.
Well, yeah. It makes perfect sense to be completely okay with sharing a locker room with someone for perhaps years before you know their sexual orientation, but once they drop the bomb that they’re gay, all bets are off boys! Separate but equal is the only course of mature action, dontcha know?
If you are worried, get a private shower NOW. Do not make this about someone coming out. That’s offensive and hurtful and stupid.
You could have avoided the whole thing if you’d always framed it that way. “Do you like changing in front of people? Should locker rooms provide privacy for the shy?” I think people would have overwhelmingly supported that. Unless of course, the point is to bash gay people and act like an asshole.
I must protest. Saying that he is acting like an asshole implies that he is a troll, and I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his sincerity-I believe he is an asshole.
Well, I agree that he is, in fact, an asshole through and through. I also think his entire reason for objecting to gay men showering near him is to loudly point out over and over how gross he thinks they are.
Why he feels it’s so necessary to tell everyone how totally completely NOT GAY he is, is an exercise left to the reader.
By the way, did you see Gyrate’s post upthread? Where your prize example of “liberal pinko hypocrisy” was completely eviscerated and turned on its head? I don’t see where you have responded to that.
And I have to wonder if you believe that you have won over even one person in either of these threads? There were a couple early on who sort of agreed that there is an issue, but they haven’t been back to defend you. Why do you think that is?
These are mostly rhetorical points, because I don’t believe that you really care about logic or reason. I think you just want to see how long you can string this out. Good luck with that.
Oh, and here’s a link to an online dictionary if you need help with the difficult words like “eviscerated”, “rhetorical” or “logic”.
Roddy
I don’t mind sharing a common shower room with a gay team mate. just don’t make annoying sounds or look at me funny. I carry my knife with me, even in the showers.
Well, quite. There is no mature way to say “We were okay showering with you when we didn’t know that you were gay, but now that we do know we’d like to start treating you like a sexual deviant with poor impulse control. If you object to us doing so, we’re going to accuse you of having a childish hissyfit. We cool?”
Absolutely. Hell, I’d like more privacy in locker rooms and particularly separate shower stalls (or at least dividers in the shower room), but that’s all about achieving a little more personal space and applies whether the next guy along is gay, straight, bi or an alien replicant.
Your ummm “discomfort” makes about as much sense to me as wondering whether or not your dentist is a sadist. I mean really, it makes even less sense since in a locker room there’s at least a chance that everyone will be - IDK, whatever it is that you ARE comfortable with.
