Nahhhh. If you fire from in front of a dark back ground and within a structure it becomes very difficult to find you. A simple lean-to will mask the muzzle flash, distort sound waves and break up your silhouettet. If you have time you can build a 3 or 4 log partition and shoot through a gap in it, from behind it. This will completely hide the muzzle flash,reflect the sound away from the target and provide some hard cover if you are spotted. With a good rifle you can be over 1000 yards away from your target. In thick woods even 500 yards can make you virtualy invisible.
As for the booby trap part, the options are endless. If you only have trees and rocks to work with you can modify a large game trap, like a bow or spike trap to work on humans. There are also small pit traps to trip the enemy as well as small game snares that can be used to snag a foot and slow down pursuit. If you can get ahold of some type of pipeing, even if it is just plastic rolled into a cylinder you can make small land mines. Just bury the cylinder, drop a nail into it, and place a rifle shell on top of it. When something steps on it the bullet is forced against the nail and fired through whatever is standing on it. These types of improvised mines have been used for years.
This is just what one person can do. If there is a large resistance movement, like some posters have alluded to , then there is no telling how many people could be doing this at one time. Get 10 men at varying distances left to right and withing 500 to 1000 yards all under some kind of cover and unless they all shoot at once , they can take quite a few of the enemy out before all of their locations are pinned down. If the Viet Cong could do it in the jungle, we should be able to do it in the forests of North America.
You mean those lush forests that grow in the Southwest where our hypothetical Mexican army would come from? Ok…lets say its 1980 and the Russians come across the Bearing Straight and invade through Canada with all their mechanised might.
Yes we did pull out of Vietnam. After 12 years and inflicting almost 2 million casualties on the VC and NVA. (Casualties - US vs NVA/VC) After the Tet offensive, the Vietcong had lost so many troops that they ceased to be effective as a combat force. Of course, by then they had achieved their objective.
I’m not doubting the effectiveness of an expert snipers and sappers in disrupting military operations but I don’t want to get bogged down in discussing sniper tactics.
There is no doubt that there would be large pool of potential Redneck Cong. A lot would depend on their ability to organize and coordinate. I would take odds on a well armed organized army with BMP personal carriers, HIND helicopters and T-90 tanks over an armed, motivated disorganized mob any day.
Now if all those Texans could organize themselves and show enough patience to not kill themselves in a loud and glorious suicide charge, that is another story. The USA is a BIG country. That means an invading army has to spread itself and its supply lines pretty thin. And that makes them vulnurable.
As for if I would fight. Probably not right away. I assume an invasion would happen too quickly to join the regular military. But, as my other unemployed friend and I were discussing the other day, it’s easy to see how these Palestinian, Afghani, or Somali kids get caught up in these terrorist groups. They have no job, no school, nothing to do, there’s an occupying army always around and plenty of guns. I figure within a few weeks, I would be bored and pissed off enough to go kill some enemy soldiers.
Would someone w/ the ability and time do some numbers…my damned PC is acting up right now. No big hurry, maybe something along the lines of:
How many trained Federal and State troops are stationed in the Southwest at all times?
How many federal and state law enforcement personnel are available in these states?
What capabilities are at their disposal, ie: aircraft, tank, ship, missiles, etc.
I’m pretty sure Texas has practically any and all current military technological capabilities at it’s disposal short of POSSIBLY nuclear and I’ve seen it’s presence in the Gulf.
as for California…I would be a bit surprised if it didn’t surpass Texas in military strength. I’m pretty sure New Mexico and Arizona are up for it. I doubt Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana would sit idly by…we fight with each other and talk a lot of shit to each other BUT like a family argument…somebody else better stay the hell out of it.
No, there won’t be any invasion VIA Texas, UNLESS were doing it!<big grin> and I don’t mean like the one that’s being done at present <shakes head>
Oh, I forgot to mention in case you’ve never been here. Why would Mexico invade West Texas anyway? Damn, half our population is Hispanic and half assed kin to 'em anyway.
and don’t start no shit with me…I love Ol’ Mexico and it’s people, damned near moved there permanent once upon a time, been there many times.
To be honest, I’d probably start hoofing it to Canada. Of course, I don’t have any training in firearms or anything like that, so if I stayed around I’d just be a big fat target.
Also, Redneck Cong is a really cool name for an army.
Live free or die. I would fight to the death against any invader, probably by joining the local resistance or the regulars if I could find them. I’m not even a gun nut, and I still have several rifles, a number of handguns and 1000s of rounds of ammunition lying around. America has got to be about the best armed civilian population in the world. Not to mention the 100,000s of police around the country. This place is a virtual armed camp, no army is going to get very far here.
I live in a mid-size city outside of Boston with a large minority/immigrant population, motorcycle gang presence, Catholics, political cronyism and just about anything else you can think of…it struck me on 9/11/01 just how boisterously and wholly patriotic this place can be when necessary. I was reminded of that on 9/11/02. I’d have to say if we were down to defending ourselves with nothing but beer bottles and duct tape, we’d do so effectively. There’s always one guy in every neighborhood who could arm a small militia in a day…
Tristan, if you don’t mind, I’m asking the ones who say they would fight, "Would the good ol’ boys at stormfrontdotorg with their stockpile of guns and food suddenly become your new best friends?
Acidkid- No problem, but I think you would be surprised. From as near as I could tell on my brief stay there, most of them would just leave to Canada, since they feel that the US would deserve an invasion… after all, the US has turned it’s back on their white heritage :rolleyes:
Personally, I would ally with pretty much anyone, as long as they were fighting the enemy… it would be afterwards, when the infighting started, that I would back out. everyone else- The idea wasn’t Mexico as it is now. I’m talking about a hypothetical heavily militarized Mexico, with a grudge for whatever reason, against the US. Also, while I’m sure Texas etc. has a lot of regular military, remember I was saying if it were to happen while US forces were in heavy deployment elsewhere… such as the buildup for Desert Storm 1.
I am an out of shape fat old fart. I don’t hunt, I have no guns, and I am a lousy shot. I live a thousand miles away from Texas, and I never did like the place all that much when I was there.
I make good speeches. I can make really good bombs. (Don’t ask.) I am fairly sure I could take out five guys, especially if I could get them to come looking for me. You see, surviving is not on my agenda. I am perfectly willing to die for my country. I would even do so for Texas. That probably is not going to be true for an invading army grunt. With an advantage like that, you can’t loose, you can only die.
See, this is why we can’t fight terrorism with military force. A war on terrorism is functionally unwinnable. There is no one to conquer, and you can’t ever believe a surrender. You can only combat terrorism by changing what causes it. That is not a military action. Pretending that Americans are somehow more likely to fight to the death for their nation is ludicrous. Enough of them are willing so that ruling the country by military force is not possible. But that is true for a lot of places. Most places, in fact, except where the populace is entirely cowed, and in abject poverty.
Tris
“People are difficult to govern because they have too much knowledge.” ~ Lao Tzu ~
I will make every attempt to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. I feel a great swell of pity for anyone who comes to this country looking for a fight.
An obvious hypothetical heavily militarized Mexico with a grudge would probably mean that the US would have some sort of border defenses.
The scenario is so far from actual reality, I’m afraid that you’ll need to flesh out the scenario a little more (armies on both sides, air forces on both sides, technology level, readiness state of US and Mexican military, overseas deployment of US military and the overall political situation) before I can figure out what is going on here.
That said, if the Mexicans invade, I’m going down to a gun store and getting myself a rifle and shotgun.
A little tactical saavy and discretion are musts for a partisan sniper.
The steps are:
Find good place to shoot about 400-500 yards from target.
Aim.
Fire once.
Run like hell or have a damn good hiding place.
This way you can over time get 2-3 enemy soldiers with minimal risk to you. Even marginally patient civillians could make an army’s life pure hell in almost any terrain. Volleying off a few rounds might work but I would not want to expose myself to possible return fire for more than a few seconds.
Trying to engage an organized army in a stand up fight is pure suicide for partisan militia types (see Blackhawk Down for an example.)
I too am really good at making bombs (I used to blow up trees when I was a kid) and I can walk into Walmart with 200 bucks and walk out with enough stuff to make anytype of booby trap imaginable (even poison gas bombs).
I would probably join the resistance or militia.
I’m up here in Ohio, so I don’t really need to worry about Mexicans. Those shady Canadians on the other hand :dubious: …
