There’s no point in rebelling,but neither can I make myself respect the monster that is the Christian god. And an omniscient isn’t going to be fooled by my faking it. So, I do nothing besides try to enjoy myself as much as possible before my inevitable eternal torture.
There are many types of “God” in the Bible. Is the one you are referring to omni-everything, where he can snap his fingers and all opponents are turned into sacks of mint jelly, or is he just powerful to the point where is is destined to eventually win?
Aw, geez…if you’re gonna cite a reference, at least go direct to the source:
IOW, God’s saying “Hey thanks for the nookie, I’ll call ya babe OK?” //rolleyes//
So that makes it okay for God to leave humanity hanging on the telephone??? Don’t you think a kind and loving God would comprehend how badly humanity has suffered due to his apparent inattention, how severely we maim and kill each other in his name?? Don’t you think a kind and loving God would at least send a CLEAR and UNAMBIGUOUS signal that can be recognized by all rational people, except those carnal idolators who blindly refuse to recognize the truth? (And FWIW I do believe said idolators are a minority amongst humanity – they simply get the most news coverage.)
And yet here you are, considering switching sides…maybe you’re more aware of God’s false promise than you realize?
You’d think so, but…nope, ain’t gonna say it, already toldja once.
Hah! I see what you’re doing here.
This reminds me of watching a news show that came out after “Indecent Proposal” (Indecent Proposal - Wikipedia) screened. They asked a bunch of people how they would respond to that proposal. A bunch of guys stated to the camera that they would take up the proposal (essentially telling their wives and girlfriends that they would be willing to pimp them off as whores, given the right price). Of course, they did NOT get a million dollars, or even $10 for their honesty. My friend said, “This is why I don’t answer hypothetical questions.”
I’m just saying, He might read this thread…
Does god have his own operating system?
The Brick Testament still quotes the scripture. Also it has amazing illustrations that make the stories come alive.
2 Peter 3:9:
“The Lord is NOT SLOW in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (though that was written a few decades after Jesus was on earth)
BTW you know if you were an angel that rebelled wouldn’t a few extra thousand years of non-punishment be better for you?
I’m not sure what you’re saying but personally be too scared to rebel. In fact I’d be to scared to rebel against an evil dictator even if they only threatened a few minutes of extreme torture.
I don’t think any of the false gods we’re aware of are God’s Creator… unless you know of something I don’t…
This thread is about a Creator God that created Heaven and earth and everything in it. He has complete power over his creation (more or less) and it can’t hurt him. In the Bible it shows how he is far more powerful than other “gods”.
If I believed God and Satan existed, I would choose to follow God. Nothing Satan could offer me in this lifetime would outweigh the afterlife costs.
The only reason I’m willing to risk eternal damnation is because I don’t believe it exists.
“…It is obvious from the text that Satan’s sin was pride. He was so beautiful, so wise, and so powerful as an angel that he began to covet God’s position and authority. He chafed at having to serve God and grew angry and rebellious. He did not want to serve, he wanted to be served; he, as a creature, wanted to be worshipped…”
I saw in a picture recently that Satan is responsible for 10 deaths in the Bible and God is responsible for about 1-2 million… Satan asked God if he could test Job and Satan killed 10 of his children. Swift deaths perhaps. But God’s killings aren’t sometimes swift - e.g. killings in war or drownings form the Flood. (the number of deaths from the Flood weren’t considered)
More about the “crimes” of Satan:
BTW I don’t think a lot of that has a lot of Biblical support though many Christians believe it and we could assume it is true for this thread.
What I implied was that atheists would automatically avoid God’s team and agnostics as well because the existence of Satan doesn’t automatically prove the existence of God.
i would join Satan if for example he were in a bar with really good atmosphere or a highly rated restaurant, but not if he were in eternal damnation or anything like that. Thank you for the opportunity to clarify my views on this matter.
Well, in that story Satan got setup from the start*.
So no, I probably wouldn’t join him knowing that a) there’s no winning and b) Satan’s revolt is not just going to be hijacked and subverted by the Old Man, it was engineered from the ground up to *be *subverted.
Nah, I won’t follow Satan. But god can still go fuck hisself, don’t get me wrong.
- though it’s not *actually *a Biblical story, is it ? Ha-Satan is named a few times (but without much consistency) and there are a few lines in Revelations which are about as conclusive about anything as any other line in that disjointed piece of LSD poetry ; but the whole story of the Fall, the War in Heaven, the dawn of Hell, pandemonium, soul contracts and so on is basically medieval fanfiction.
<insert clever daemon joke>
Fuck no, why would I want to spend an eternity in Hell? That would suck. Unless it’s like on South Park.
I don’t care how painful it is. If its for eternity you get used to it eventually so heaven is going to be really boring and Hell will just be a dull ache. But there would be a better class of people in Hell and you would be one of Satan’s boys so you get to do whatever you feel like.
And there is no lobster bacon or shrimp in heaven
The Biblical interpretation is that Satan doesn’t rule Hell, he’s imprisoned in it like everyone else. The whole “Better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven” bit is, as said upthread, fanfic.
No way. Every time I get involved with this bunch first it’s all fun and games and the next thing I know I’ve got issues.
One day it’d be all good to see yah and why don’t you lead the crusade and the next thing they’d be expecting me to help clean the kitchen and, say, the offering plate’s a little short this week.
So, Answers in Genesis is written by Satan or his minions? That explains their mission to blind and confuse Christians. Thank you for that information.