Wrestling fans: RIP Eddie Guerrero

WWE.com reports Eddie Guerrero passed away:

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/eddieguerreropasses

I am deeply saddened by this. Every few months, there is another press release about some wrestler or another dying. It’s always sad to lose anyone who people loved, who was good at what they did and entertained people and brought them joy, but a lot of the time, I’m not very familiar with those wrestlers – they might have hit their prime before I started watching during the “boom” in 1998, or they may never have hit it. It tends to not be a business where people live long and prosper, but rather live out their later years in relative obscurity, their bodies racked with pain from years of hard living and putting it on the line for the sake of telling a story in the squared circle… if they make it that far.

But Eddie Guerrero was different. He was a WWE Superstar of the highest echelon, a consummate performer, a fan favorite, no matter what city or country they traveled to, no matter if he was a face (good guy) or heel (bad guy). He played both parts equally well. He played a convincing psycho over the last year in his bizarre feud with fellow Mexican-American Rey Mysterio, but before that, he was the lovably amoral guy who drove out to the ring in different custom lowriders, whose motto was unabashedly “Lie, Cheat, and Steal.” The crowds loved him. He sported a colossal MULLET for years, and they still went crazy for him. He was great at cutting promos, probably in the top five most entertaining interviewees in the WWE, but then when the bell rang, he could walk the walk as well as talk the talk.

Eddie was a big guy, musclebound as all hell, but he was one of the few who could seemingly defy gravity like the much smaller cruiserweight wrestlers. He could fly through the air, taking amazing risks for awe-inspiring “highspot” moves that had everyone on the edge of their seats. He worked well with almost everyone, and was counted on to carry anyone to a good match, which is what pro wrestling is all about. He could “sell,” which means making injuries look real, and he could “put over” just about anyone, which means making his opponents look good (usually better than they really were). I can’t think of too many other wrestlers who combine technical ability, speed, strength, grace, ring psychology, and mic skills the way he could. Ask any WWE fan, any mark (the fans who think and act like it’s REAL), any smark (the fans who read the backstage gossip on the Internet and know about how things really work behind the scenes), and any of them would claim the utmost respect for Eddie Guerrero.

Too many wrestling deaths of the last few years have been drug-related, and that’s a horrible shame. Again, much of this has to do with misuse of painkillers and muscle relaxants. I don’t know if this was one of them, but Eddie definitely fought his demons over the years, and seemed to have won. He was addicted to HEROIN for a while, disappeared from wrestling, went into rehab, and returned bigger, faster, and better than ever – probably reaching the greatest heights of his career after that. Now, like too many others before him, he was found dead in a hotel room, and I shudder to think what an autopsy might reveal. I’m not making a judgment, nor is it my place to do so. Instead, I mourn for a champion, a top-notch athlete, a great entertainer, a surprisingly capable comedian, a role model of sorts, a man who made his mark in ECW, WCW, and WWF/WWE and rose to the top of those companies because he was so damn good at what he did. I don’t really care how he passed away, only that it was such a damn shame he went so young, and alone, and with so much of a great career still ahead of him.

For anyone who is remotely interested, the WWE released a DVD career retrospective a couple years back. Their DVDs are the BEST – even if you’re not a wrestling fan (and I assume most Dopers aren’t), the editing is top-notch, the commentaries are fascinating, and the matches they put together from decades of footage are awe-inspiring. They show you exactly why these men earn their reputations as stars and warriors and heroes and champions, and the Eddie Guerrero DVD set, ironically called “Cheating Death, Stealing Life,” is one of the best out there.

It’s a real shame. I’ve always been partial to the “villains” myself, and Eddie played the part with real gusto. He brought a certain presence to the ring, and was one of the best.

Wow, that shocked the hell out of me. We have that DVD set and it’s awesome. I’ll miss seeing him. We were just watching Friday Night’s episode of Smacdown and talking about how no matter how hard they tried to make Eddie a heel, the audience just couldn’t help wanting to cheer for him. That’s really sad and I’m so upset for his family.

This is a real shock. I thought that Eddie had beaten his demons, but this would certainly seem to follow the pattern of other wrestler deaths in recent years.

I hope somehow some good can come out of Eddie’s passing…

He will certainly be missed.

Eddie was one tough S.O.B too.

The match he did on the night he, Dean Malinko and Chris Benoit came to the WWF from the WCW, (I believe it was 2002 or 2003) he clearly and obviously dislocated his elbow landing a toprope jump (frogsplash?). His elbow was visibly out of joint to even a casual observation. He continued to finish the match and give some microphone time immediately afterwards. Does anyone else remember that match?

I haven’t watched for a couple years, but I thought Latino Heat was one great wrestler from a family of pro wrestlers.

I just watched the press conference that Chavo (his nephew) and Vince McMahon gave at noon today about Eddie’s passing. Chavo didn’t think that drugs or alcohol had anything to do with his passing as he and Eddie had recently celebrated Eddie’s 4th year anniversary of his sobriety.

Both WWE Raw and Smackdown this week will be tribute shows for Eddie. That’s just the way it should be.

Slight hijack but it seems that professional wrestling has a very high proportion of its athletes die prematurely. I wonder how it compares with American football?

Well, American football players do take a lot of hard hits, but they also get drug tested. From what I’ve read, which, admittedly, is very little since I haven’t watched pro wrestling since I was ten (wait, why did I even open this thread?), wrestlers don’t get drug tested, and many of them pretty much live on anabolic steroids and cocaine.

Of course, I’m open to correction on that point. It’s possible that things have changed since whatever article in which I read that information was published.

Wow!! I was really shocked. I’ve watched wrestling on and off for years and about once every other month my buddies and I will go a local sports bar and catch a pay per view. Eddie was one hard working tuff consumate preformer and still at the top of his game. He will be missed. I’m glad they allowed him to be champ for a while before his untimely death.

Man I feel bad for his family. His wife was on TV a couple of times during the Ray Mysterio goofy story line. Someone please update us when more info is available.

I’m sorry to haul this thread back up, but I just found out today.
Did anyone see the tribute on Raw tonight? I haven’t watched it in ages, but I tuned in tonight. It seemed Eddie was really quite a nice guy. A family man who had gotten his act together and had the better portion of his life ahead of him. Sad.

The tribute tonight was good. I don’t usually watch that close anymore; my husband watches the shows and I wander in and out of the room, but tonight I actually watched. Lots of emotional testimonials, followed by some fairly offensive testimonials by Triple H and Stephanie McMahon where they each referred to his wife and two children. Hunter, Steph, Eddie has THREE children. We all know you’re completely self-absorbed assholes, but perhaps you should have your people do some research before you go on camera and embarrass yourselves like that. God, can we trade the two of them and get Eddie back?

I felt so terrible for guys like Chavo and Chris Benoit and all the guys who were obviously really close to Eddie. It was hard not to cry while watching them struggle through their tributes.

The tribute will continue on Smackdown Friday. That show will include Chavo’s tribute match, so I’ll definitely watch.

They also said some nice things about Eddie on last night’s TNA pay-per-view, which was good to see.

I watched the first half hour or so of Raw, and the tributes I saw were really touching. As much as I hate the WWE right now, they edit together the best video montages and tributes, and this one brought tears to my eyes. I didn’t see Triple H or Stephanie (just as well), but aside from Eddie’s immediate family, I feel the most for his close friends in the business: Chavo, Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, and Dean Malenko. JBL, who I deeply dislike for several reasons, has said some wonderful things about Eddie in the last two days, and has proven himself (for now, at least) to be a class act when it counts.

I, too, found out last night, when I flipped on RAW late and heard it was a tribute show right before it went to commercial. Had to pop online to figure out in tribute to whom.

Guerrero was always a top notch performer. He could always work a crowd. During his feud with Rey Mysterio Jr., I remembering him captivating an arena (and me in the TV audience) just by walking to the ring, standing in the ring getting ready to speak, and finally dropping the microphone and leaving. Body language and facial expressions said it all. I only saw him live once, when he was with ECW. I had seen tapes of him long prior, back when he was teaming with Art Barr. Always entertaining.

I didn’t listen to Stephanie McMahon’s memorial. Despite his tears, I thought HHH’s was a bit self-serving. He had me wondering if there were onions off camera. But Rey, Chavo, Chris Benoit, Batista and Shawn Michaels - they were speaking from the heart.

Viva La Rasa!

Before I forget (again): MSNBC tonight, Rita Crosby’s show should be about Eddie Guerrero. I believe the show airs at 9:00pm.

During the tributes, several people mentioned how they’ll see Eddie again in Heaven, and it made me hope that when they get to the Pearly Gates, Eddie’s waiting there to toss them a steel folding chair so they can catch it, look confused, and then he can lay down and fool St. Peter into thinking they whacked him with the chair. :smiley:

BBVL, I haven’t seen any of JBL’s statements. He pisses me off a lot too, so I’m glad he’s at least being decent about this. Do you have links to any of those stories?

I cried almost the whole 2 hours. Rey and Chavo tore my heart, but Chris Benoit & Dave Batista broke it.

The pain these men are feeling. It’s like a brotherhood. They spend more time with eachother than with their families.

Steph & Paul (HHH) made almost the exact same speach, and left out Eddie’s youngest daughter…yea, you guys were family. :rolleyes:

Farewell Eddie.

I’m going crazy, rereading every related thread in every message board I’ve been to since Sunday, and can’t find any cites. I’ll post if I stumble upon it again, but apparently JBL was on MSNBC (since he used to appear on the news every so often as a talking head – an outspoken Republican and former stockbroker who happened to be a heel wrestler) talking about what a good man Eddie was, and how they worked a good program together when Eddie had first come to WWE with the Radicalz. Maybe a check of the MSNBC website would yield more info.

cwbalmer, you can check www . pwinsider . com/. Beware though, the site is laden with pop-ups (that’s why I broke the link) for non-paying members.

Here’s the relevant article, also with the link broken:
http://www. pwinsider. com/ViewArticle.asp?id=14393&p=1

I hate those damn pop-up trap sites. The wrestling message board I go to recaps all the shows and summarizes all the articles from other sites, so we can avoid such foolishness.

Thanks for the links. Those popups sure do suck!

Apparently they’ve determined the cause of death was heart failure, brought on by his years of substance abuse, plus the strain of the travel schedule and his intense workouts and matches. It’s obviously a physically punishing business, but all the wrestlers say the travel is the roughest part.