Actually the reality TV trend is another sticking point for the writers; that stuff you describe is typically created by the producers, not a writing staff. Yes, in TV, there is often overlap between the “producer” and “writer” titles, and the executive producer of a scripted show (comedy or drama) is almost always the head writer and usually the creator and showrunner; members of the writing staff are frequently granted producer credits (e.g., The Office, where Mindy Kaling and B.J. Novak wear three hats, writer, producer, and actor). In reality TV, while the producers do essentially function as writers, designing the premise, staging the situations, and shaping the material after it’s shot, they don’t consider themselves writers. The reasons are complex: partly they draw a boundary between production and writing for exactly the situation we’re seeing now, to make it possible to keep churning out the show even though the writers union is on strike; but they also want to maintain the fiction that reality TV represents any kind of reality, and if they admitted just how much “writing” they do ahead of time they could seriously degrade the audience’s suspension of disbelief. Point is, if this strike drags on, we’re going to see a lot more so-called reality TV, not less.
Curse you and your so-called logic and better understanding of the situation, Cervaise! Maybe reality show “actors” should unionize and strike…
Or, just stake the freckled redhead out naked under the Miami sun and let him roast. (Why does he choose to live there?!)
Although the series was canceled by HBO, if I had just ONE chance to finish off Carnivale…
Okay, but I get the week after that. Sam and Dean have a run in with the infamous Black Eyed Kids. But, since you and I are interested in episode continiuity, the boys will be wearing just boxer shorts the entire episode- the imps stole their clothes, and they haven’t had time to shop yet.
No, no, what happens is that the real Flash Gordon wakes up screaming in a Mongo torture cell. The entire series to date has been a horrible nightmare implanted into his brain where Flash is a wussy, Zarkov is a twerp and Hawkmen fly by flapping their capes. Somehow Flash is able to overcome this horrible torture and escape to his cigar-shaped rocket ship and start having real adventures.
Mencia has always had writers. They’re called “other comics”.
Well, this scribe tells everyone who thinks they can do a writer’s job to go ahead and try. Scabs aren’t going to be well-liked in the industry.
As for what will settle this complete fuck-up? It’s going to take a while. 90% of union members voted for the strike. The AMPTP is not willing to budge on some very important issues. Show-runners may well be the richest and most powerful members of the WGA East and West, but they also do look after their staffers, most of whom are non-50% writers who are non-credited writers (team writers, script-doctors, and so on).
It really gets my hackles up to hear people say that they could do the job themselves. Seriously, folks, do you even have half a clue what it takes to do this work? Really? Any idea?
Elly
Sorry guys. I really didn’t mean to go all GNARRRR on everyone. I’ve just had to vent to a bunch of morons about stuff all morning. Not that yall are a bunch of morons. I’m just a frustrated person who has just lost 75% of her livelihood for a while.
Come on, SHARE SOME LOVIN’. sniffle
SPREAD THE LOVE! HUG A WRITER TODAY!
Bad news for those of us who think we can write the Simpsons: animated shows won’t be affected. (This also means Drawn Together will stay unwatchable, and the commercials probably won’t go away either.)
I’m thinking of doing my own reality show: Who Can Survive the TV Writers Strike? People are trapped in small rooms, with adequate supplies of food, and forced to watch what’s left on TV, mainly reality shows and reruns of stuff they’ve already seen a million times. Everybody who survives gets to turn the TV off.

Well, this scribe tells everyone who thinks they can do a writer’s job to go ahead and try. Scabs aren’t going to be well-liked in the industry.
<<snip>>It really gets my hackles up to hear people say that they could do the job themselves. Seriously, folks, do you even have half a clue what it takes to do this work? Really? Any idea?
I know what you mean. I’m ready to pummel the next person who says, in all seriousness, “This is a great opportunity for people to get into writing for TV! I’m going to send in my script to The Colbert Report!” (I think this thread is just a thread, but there are people who honestly think this strike is going to be the catalyst for their big break into TV.)
I don’t get it. If you (general you) are a fan of the show, why would you want to screw over the people who brought you the show by taking away their bargaining power?
My script ideas:
Boston Legal: the law firm supports the liberal viewpoint side in a case and ridicules conservatives, James Spader tries to screw everything that has a vagina and William Shatner gets fatter.
Cavemen: Someone tells them that they are supposed to be extinct and shoots them. America cheers.
Journeyman: Dan goes back to 1989 and sees the pilot episode of Quantum Leap. The realization that this had all been done before kills him instantly and the series ends with a flash of blue light, the Quantum Leap music and a picture of Scott Bakula .
Bionic Woman: Lindsay Wagner shows up as Michelle Ryan’s bionic mother. She beats Michelle to death. America cheers.
Grey’s Anatomy: The doctors spend the entire season screwing each other raw. Occasionally they save a patient’s life.
My script ideas:
Boston Legal: the law firm supports the liberal viewpoint side in a case and ridicules conservatives, James Spader tries to screw everything that has a vagina and William Shatner gets fatter.Cavemen: Someone tells them that they are supposed to be extinct and shoots them. America cheers.
Journeyman: Dan goes back to 1989 and sees the pilot episode of Quantum Leap. The realization that this had all been done before kills him instantly and the series ends with a flash of blue light, the Quantum Leap music and a picture of Scott Bakula .
Bionic Woman: Lindsay Wagner shows up as Michelle Ryan’s bionic mother. She beats Michelle to death. America cheers.
Grey’s Anatomy: The doctors spend the entire season screwing each other raw. Occasionally they save a patient’s life.
Funny stuff. I guess this is okay in this thread, but if you post this kind of thing in the threads for the shows, in my experience, you get accussed of thread shitting, spoiling everybody’s fun and threatened by a moderator.

Funny stuff. I guess this is okay in this thread, but if you post this kind of thing in the threads for the shows, in my experience, you get accussed of thread shitting, spoiling everybody’s fun and threatened by a moderator.
Oh God! You mean there is a fan thread for Cavemen?!?!? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I would never do that to the people who support and love those shows (I love Boston Legal, and used to love Grey, BTW). That’s just tacky and rude. It would be like someone having a thread about their favorite gospel music and someone jumping in to denounce religions. Bad form.
I’ll help!
Heroes - Claude comes back, hits the other characters with sticks. This can go on for several episodes!

Well, this scribe tells everyone who thinks they can do a writer’s job to go ahead and try. Scabs aren’t going to be well-liked in the industry.
It really gets my hackles up to hear people say that they could do the job themselves. Seriously, folks, do you even have half a clue what it takes to do this work? Really? Any idea?
Elly
I never said I would quit my job and head to Hollywood. Since we’re going to be on re-runs for awhile, I thought it might be a fun thread to spitball story ideas.
FWIW, I think WGA has a good point, and I hope the studios fold like a lawn chair.
I think I’d like “Dirty Sexy Money” to start showing Tripp doing dramatic readings from the dictionary while Nick and the rest of the family just sit there and do reaction shots.
What can I say? I love Donald Sutherland.
Equivalent thread from 1966:
They fix that boat and go home!

Here’s rundown of the issues from the WGA strike blog:
http://www.unitedhollywood.com/2007/11/short-version.htmlShow of support from showrunners (the writer-producers who control TV shows and are generally the wealthiest, most powerful members of the WGA):
http://www.wga.org/subpage_member.aspx?id=2529
My own take: the writers will settle for considerably less than their initial demands, but the producers absolute refusal to discuss the issue of residuals on downloads antagonizes the writers and guarantees a long strike.If the producers offer a 1 % residual rate on downloads, get rid of the promotional exemption, and go up two tenths of a per cent on DVD residuals (the rate would then be an even half a per cent for DVDs), the writers will make a deal. No one loses their jobs, the town keeps working, everyone is more or less happy.
The writers might be willing to accept a half a percent rate across the board, for DVDs and downloads, but this would be a tougher sell. Their current demand for downloads is a whopping 2.5 %. Going down by two percentage points might be achieveable, but only with a lot of sweet talking. Nick Counter, the head of negotiations for the producers, has gone out of his way to look tough, and this make it harder for everyone to be reasonable.
Don’t forget, it’s the WGA that is affected first. In the next 6 months, the Teamsters, SGA, and Directors Guild all have contracts coming up. They all want the same thing the WGA wants and they all have said they will honor the strike. So unless the WGA settles for a great bargain, they won’t. They will piss off all the other unions.
In other words, now is a great time for fresh air.

As for what will settle this complete fuck-up? It’s going to take a while. 90% of union members voted for the strike. The AMPTP is not willing to budge on some very important issues. Show-runners may well be the richest and most powerful members of the WGA East and West, but they also do look after their staffers, most of whom are non-50% writers who are non-credited writers (team writers, script-doctors, and so on).
It really gets my hackles up to hear people say that they could do the job themselves. Seriously, folks, do you even have half a clue what it takes to do this work? Really? Any idea?
I’m sorry, I have a real hard time sympathizing when I read stuff like this:
The average working writer in Hollywood takes home about $200,000 a year. (New York Times)
I realize that it’s just TV, and that it’s a business, and that things like this have to happen to help make sure everyone gets their fair share of the pie. But it’s depressing. Apparently no one involved in the TV industry gives a shit about the audience, so why should we sit here wringing our hands over their plight?