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Is that what Gyrate meant?
I did intend to include police officers in that. I hadn’t been thinking about mayors and media outlets quite so much, but sure, whatever.
Of course, I also meant to include high school students. And protesters. And black people in general.
No. I’m something to a door. Do you like robots? Do you believe robots were deployed in Baltimore? Do you think robots should have been used before, during, or after the recent riots in Baltimore?
What about red people? Or yellow people? Why do you exclude them?
A nice ideal, but not always practical. If you’re one of a few peaceful folks in a large group throwing stones at police, guess what’s going to happen.
You’re so cute when you’re fishing for material to show liberal hypocrisy.
But sure. Have you got any examples of yellow or red people being stereotyped in modern society based on the actions of a minority of them? I mean, I’m sure you have a reason for mentioning them.
Or indeed one of a large group of peaceful folks with a small group of stonethrowers in the middle. The police tend to take an “arrest them all and let the justice system sort them out” (or even a “fuck it, just teargas them all”) approach rather than the fantastical surgical removal of troublemakers proposed above, simply because there’s only so much they can do realistically.
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It doesn’t matter if I’m cute. This isn’t a dating site (this isn’t a dating site, is it? :eek: ).
I was interested in your reason(s) for excluding them.
I wasn’t “excluding” them. I also wasn’t excluding tall people, Unitarians, people named Dave, brunettes, professional pet groomers or the Dutch despite not mentioning them. I was mentioning the specific groups I’d been thinking of in the context of the discussions in this thread.
Thanks for answering my questions.
But what shocked him the most, he said, was when city police told him not to confront and accost the rioters.
“I was sick to my stomach like everybody else. This was urban warfare no doubt about it. The city officers thanked us profusely and told us they were very capable of handling this, but they were repeatedly told to stand down,” he said. “They were told to stand down and let them destroy property. I apologize if I’ve upset people, but I believe in saying it like it is. The radio call said ‘Stand down, stand down, retreat.'”
In other words, giving space to those who want to destroy.
Here’s an article that places riots in an American historical context: Rioting: An American Tradition
What would be the compelling reason for keeping the investigators report into Freddie Gray’s death a secret?
Seems like this type of stuff should be done with more transparency.
The people who are burning Baltimore are not thugs. They are Americans, acting in a grand American political tradition. Calling them thugs and demanding non-violence prejudges them as those who are out of step with modern America. It says that, like the New York City Draft Rioters or the segregationists at Ole Miss, the wrongs they are protesting are in their own heads. That the city of Baltimore has paid damages to more than 100 victims of police brutality in the past three years, and that Freddie Gray’s spine was mysteriously severed and his larynx crushed in police custody, makes it seem unlikely that today’s protesters are imagining injustice.
The people who recently burned Baltimore ARE thugs. It’s a generic term.
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noun
› a man who acts violently, esp. a criminal:
Some thugs smashed his windows.
Has the official autopsy been released yet? Has the official police report been released to the public yet? It has been reported (suggested?) that the PD turned over it’s preliminary report to the State Attorney’s office, yesterday. When will the SA make the report public? Will it be first provided to the grand jury or a petite jury?
The media outlets keep repeating every rumor that they can, and then talk about how confusing the situation has become. Maybe, just maybe, the media outlets could actually vet a story before they rush to publish it. Maybe not.
I think this is very likely. The media emphasizes the most dramatic events; that’s how they get people to watch. The violence and looting may be far more limited than we think based on what we see on television.
Hey, if you’re going to be a looter, be a white looter with lots of well-armed buddies, like Cliven Bundy. I’m much more interested in seeing Bundy brought to justice than the Baltimore rioters.
There will be a pending grand jury, or the SA could file charges on her own. The defendants have rights. That’s just the way it (the court system) works. Then there could be a petite trial. Releasing the report early could affect how witnesses may testify, or even encourage non-witnesses to claim they are witnesses.
My take was that these ‘riots’ were just an upjumped Flash Mob. Opportunists laughing and having a good time. Hardly ‘poor children who have no other political recourse or opportunities’
Especially in a city with the political demographics of Baltimore.
As for police-civilian relationships, yes, I agree…they’re horrible.
It doesn’t undermine the actual freedom. You still have a right to property, even if someone else steals it. You still have the right to life, even if someone kills you.
You’re using one word in two different ways, swapping them out halfway through your argument. This is extremely bad debate technique.
From your link:
“We know a man named Freddie Gray is dead but we don’t know what happened in that paddywagon,” Brown said, referring to the police van used to transport Gray and another man.
Is that a commonly used term for a police car in the States?
Won’t Freddie Grays family have access to the autopsy report?