From your link
Basically, yes, that’s what I’m getting at.
The truth is vague and subjective in Trump Land. I can only go with the observations of some members of my family and some old friends I’ve seen post on Facebook.
But basically, they probably know that they’re buying into conspiracy theories without any evidence to support them, but they ascribe negative, fiendish attributes to their targets (“Killary”, Obama the Communist Socialist Dictator, etc), believing that these conspiracies could be true. It’s enough to believe that Obama, Hillary, Bill, pick a Democratic governor, and Biden are capable of doing things that are part of a conspiracy theory -that passes for truth in Trump Land.
The reason they believe that Democrats are capable of such atrocities is that, deep down inside, they know that Republicans are equally capable of viciously attacking and smearing their opponents, and many times, that’s exactly what right wing voters what they want them to do. They just assume that Democrats and liberals would want to do the same in return. It’s a type of projection.
Believing that Hillary Clinton had Seth Rich murdered or that she ran a child sex trafficking ring in a pizza shop need not have facts to support them - if it’s humanly possible, they assume that progressives are doing it. They want to believe that. It helps them justify whatever shitty views of humanity they have.
This is Trumps entire life. Blame someone else. He has fucked up from day one, and now, of course he has to blame someone. I think he actually believes it though. Stupid people born into privilege believe they can do no wrong. Not all people born into privilege are stupid though. Many go on to do great things.
Someone fed this to him though. “Distract them, rile up your supporters and give them something to cling to”.
I REALLY want a reporter in a news conference/Trump rally, to stand up for the truth, call him a liar, and state that “This Obamagate bullshit is just an attempt to distract from your own incompetence, failures and crimes. It is not in any newspapers and only exist in your feeble brain”. He can then be applauded by other reporters and escorted out by the Secret Service. Wherein he will become a hero to actual Americans that care about out county.
It doesn’t even have to be humanly possible. The pizza shop accused of being part of the ring didn’t even have a basement.
I’ve said it before, stupid’s forever but ignorance can be fixed… but then there’s willful ignorance.
It didn’t need to have a basement: one version I tripped over — Og knows, I wasn’t looking for it — held that the “basement” was actually on Mars, and the “basement door” was a teleport. In even a slightly more rational atmosphere I would have written this off as a whoosh, but I wouldn’t have been surprised if it had been a) serious, and b) believed by a fair number of MAGAsses.
Since no-one has said it yet, I just want to express how utterly disgusting all this is.
That trump supporters are happy to handwave everything that happened with Russia (obstructed justice in 11 ways, 7 members of Trump’s team indicted, Barr now letting off a guy who plead guilty twice)…and everything that happened with Ukraine (even most trump supporters accept a QPQ happened for trump’s personal benefit, then multiple, blatant attempts to obstruct justice at many levels, followed by a “trial” with no witnesses and no documents allowed), and now a pandemic response that has led to tens of thousands of deaths…
This is the worst scandal in history!? What the fuck is wrong with these people?
Ok, sorry…guess I need to find a Pit thread.
I saw something elsewhere that seems to perfectly answer the question of what Obamagate is:
“Obamagate is a slogan in search of a scandal.”
I’d say that it’s a pretty good answer.
As I’ve said before, they get something of psychological value out of siding with Trump. I don’t think every Trump supporter is hopelessly racist, but an overwhelming majority have anxieties about the demographic shifts that have occurred over the last 40-50 years. Even for whites who are living from food stamp payment to food stamp payment, they fear losing their “rank” in society.
Something is wrong with that, though.
What’s wrong is that they’ve been led to believe that all the stuff above is to Trump what Birtherism and the tan suit are to Obama supporters. Whether you then place more blame on the people telling the lies or the people who believe them is up to you.
Yer all overthinking it.
“A slogan in search of a scandal.” That’s good. That might even be true. But last night, I drank a quart of Old Overcoat and inflicted a head injury on myself, and then watched several hours of Fox News in order to simulate the mindset… and the answer slid neatly into place. It did. And it made SENSE, and EVERYTHING! Really quite simple.
Obamagate is, in fact, "The brazen and corrupt act of permitting, aiding, and abetting, nay, ENCOURAGING… a NEGRO… to be PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES!
TWICE!!!
And after eight YEARS of this ATROCITY, attempting to follow it UP by putting a woman, A WOMAN IN THERE!!!"
Makes perfect sense. That’s why he doesn’t have to explain it. More than HALF of ALL AMERICANS were IN on the conspiracy…
I think you’re right. Obama’s crime was…
…wait for it…
Being President While Black!
Twice!
He can’t deny it!
The only flaw I can find in this theory is that it makes perfect sense.
The current president often does NOT make sense, and he’s far from logical, even when he’s lucid.
So maybe the theory about “A slogan in search of a scandal” is better. At least it doesn’t have to make sense. It just has to be believed by the faithful.
Well, and his mother’s name was Stanley. What the hell kind of name is that? Obviously his parents were gay, so that makes him a gay black muslim. That is just all kinds of wrong. He should be locked up for perpetrating that big a fraud on the country.
The definitive report on Obamagate was given on the Daily Social Distancing Show:
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The definitive report on Obamagate was given on the Daily Social Distancing Show:
[/QUOTE]While that was entertaining, the Foxsplanation part hurt my brain.
Then again, so does Fox News.
Obama shared a meal with Anthony Bourdain in Vietnam, therefore he’s a filthy communist sympathizer??
Other than that, I’ve got nothing.
Hey, can someone enlighten me re the Tan Suit thing? It didn’t blip my radar here downunder.
Obama tan suit controversy
Basically, Obama wore a tan suit for a news conference about ISIS and Republicans went ape-shit over how unpresidential it was.
Well, THAT was fun to revisit. Imagine the hoopla if he had worn seersucker and a boater.
Even worse, a big Panama with a purple hatband.
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