WTF is wrong with the moronic bush supporting republicans?

Death is a suitable punishment for those with whom you disagree, eh? So this place where justice and law are meaningless . . . is it your house?

And my personal wish is that one day you will muster the brainpower to realize that your bigoted opinions are fatuous and disgusting, and I wish that you become suitably embarrassed for the things you’ve said.

But not before you lose your contact lenses in the Port-A-John at an Insane Clown Posse concert.

[Anybody want to bet Quint Essence has to use a dictionary to figure out what “fatuous” means?]

No, they’re the best choices we’d actually elect. If Ghandi ran for president, he’d probably be driven into obscurity within a week by negative ads projecting him as a weak-kneed vegetarian loon who might not even be a white Christian. If Jefferson ran he’d be a left-wing academic elitist. If MLK Jr. ran he’d be the angry black candidate. We are presented with banal, cliched politicians every election cycle because that’s what we’ll vote for: mediocrity. Nobody obviously horrible, but nobody good enough to put a dent in our egos.

Exactly. I’m not a fan of Bush’s either. But what are these supposed “lies” he’s told, and what are the testimonies of those you mentioned in your OP that allegedly support that he DID lie about some mysterious evil thing.

It’s really ignorant and narrow minded to deem those who have a different political view than you do as “stupid” and “morons” etc.

Your post makes you come off sounding like an idealistic freshman who’s just discovered Political Science, or Philosophy. And then does a poor job expressing his/her newfound passions thereof.

Perhaps if you’d remembered the 7 “rules” of telling a story…

How, When, Where, Who, Why, What and Which…(likely not in that order though, I’ve forgotten).

You left each and every one out (oh wait, you DID say who, Moronic Bush and his “moronic” supporters, sorry), and ranted about SOMETHING, that they did, and that it (whatever it may be) should be thought of as being evil, moronic etc.

It may, or may not be, but we’ll never know, since you didn’t include any facts with which we could make a decision.

Wait. Your first paragraph acknowledges that there are many people supporting him; you then claim his actions are “…so far beyond the wishes of the general electorate…” Which is it?

I’d say those that get their information from Jon Stewart are the dumb ones.

To include liberals, I might add (being idiots) since they voted for Clinton.

Hey, don’t mean to burst your bubble but you lefty’s (Michael Morer, Al Franken, Barbara Streisand, Janine Garafalo, Susan Sarandon and her nutcase husband, et al) don’t even believe Al Queda exists. That it’s all an invention of the CIA and this administration for some nefarious reasons. Their books are such trash and my only suggestion is that they make the paper softer and perforate them to tear out easier. Scented and different colors would be nice too. Proffer your evidence of no Saddam/9-11 connection. Did Saddam hand the keys over to Osama? Who knows. But they are all in bed together. Wasn’t Abu Nidal just caught there? (Achille Laura) Even so, we wiped out a sizeable next of terrorist scumbags and their camps up north (Ansar Alsawat or some such spelling). Saddam was providing a Motel 6 for these brutal, cold-blooded murderers.

The kid suicide bomber that got cold feet today in Israel is a classic example of what we are dealing with. He was COERCED into doing this. What type of merciless, cold-blooded, pathologically insane person could do this to children?

Sort of similar to the dishonest, lying, stupid administration of Bill Clintons that got all those people killed in Mogadishu? Or let the “Cole incident” go unpunished? Or had an opportunity to nab Osama but was too busy getting blow jobs and lying about it and wasting presidential time defending his actions and insulting our intelligence with his stupid questions regarding, “It depends on what you mean by ‘is’?” That type of lying, stupid, dishonest administration?

Kerry would be just as happy to have the same amount if he could get it.

You know something. You just displayed your ignorance regarding military matters. And I speak from the standpoint of being a UH-1 pilot in Viet Nam and an AH-64 pilot in Desert Storm. NO HUMVEES are armored. They are, in effect, big ass jeeps not designed to withstand large caliber weapons and ESPECIALLY not RPG’s (rocket propelled grenades). I wonder if you even knew what “rpg” stood for. They are meant for transportation not armor. No army ever has, or ever will be able to armor every frickin’ transportation vehicle to withstand everything.

Well, guess you’d better lump FDR in the “asshole” category since he repeatedly sent troop transports and merchant ships across the Atlantic during WWII knowing full well thousands would die NOT FULLY PROTECTED from German U-boats (either unescorted or underescorted convoys). Hell, he stranded thousands of troops on Guadalcanal outmanned, outgunned, with not enough food and ammunition and were basically told, “Good luck, we’ll be back with more supplies as soon as we can.” I believe he was a liberal.

This is the problem with women analyzing military matters. They’ve no clue.

That’s the nature of war. In fact, I don’t recall liberals up in arms about Truman dropping the A-bombs on innocent citizens. In fact, why even go to war against Germany? All we had to do to stop them from sinking our ships was to stop providing aid to their enemies. Weren’t we “butting in”? After all, it was Japan that bombed Pearl Harbor. That’s right, they were both in bed together, with the same common goal, world domination. Similar to the terrorists wanting to wipe-out all Americans and Western influence. They have stated that purpose again and again. They want us DEAD, and that includes YOU. It wouldn’t matter if we did everything they asked of us, they would still go on killing innocent people because they are crazy (like foxes) fucking killers.

I suggest you write to increase the budget for fighting terror by increasing expenditures for the military in ALL aspects. Even an armored HUMVEE will not stop a land mine designed for vehicles and will NEVER stop and RPG. The armour it would take…shit…might as well get rid of them and just have 100% APC’s (armored personnel carriers which are tracked vehicles).

In a sense I understand your frustration. But you are playing right into the terrorists hands just like Spain has done. You wait and see. Nothing will change.

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It is amazing. Almost 300 million citizens. We have our share (if not more) of the world’s greatest scientists, artists, generals, philosophers, grocery baggers, car washers, etc, and Bush and Kerry are the choices? We field the mightiest army in the history of the world, we put people on the moon, we grow ‘human’ ears out of the backs of mice, but those two are all we could come up with?

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Sure. No sane person would get into politics, much less some of the best-n-brightest types. Academics? Too left-wing or too intellectual or, heaven forbid, both. And they might’ve smoked The Mary-Ju-wanna! Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar, remember. Military men? Everything they’ve ever done will be questioned, regardless of how much of a choice they had. Kerry is a decorated military veteran, forchrissakes, and his record is already being dragged through the mud.

Shit, if you went to France once, you’d be deluged with attack ads showing you sitting in a cafe, waving a French flag and wearing a Nazi armband…“Soandso is a cheese-eating surrender monkey. He loves the French. Do we want HIM in charge of America?” Scientists? Well, they might not believe God created the world! They might have even done eeeeeeeeeevil stem sell research! Or cloning!

When your template is White Christian Males Who May Be Smart But Not Too Smart And Have To Be Telegenic And Haven’t Done Anything Offensive To Anyone In The World And Can’t Be Too Young But Not Too Old Either, is it any wonder we get what we have?

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I can’t wait until this becomes a pay-for-service board. Anyone else with me?
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I don’t mean to bust your bubble Skipper, but infact some HMMWV (notice the lack of the “U”) sure as shit are armored. And many of them cary mounted Anti Tank TOW rockets and fifty caliber machineguns.

I also find it extremely unlikely, considering the ARMY move up or move out policy that you were a Huey pilot in vietnam and still a low enough rank 30 years later in Desert Storm (wich I was in BTW) to still be driving a bird, and not command rank by then. I was a Sergeant in 101 MI LRSD (Airborne) attached to 1ID what unit did you drive apaches for? Also, my cousin is LT. General Vines, so I can find out. Even a CW04 would be past flight status. If I am wrong about your claims I welcome your correction. But as a prior serviceman (if you are) I am sure you will understand my concerns.

I REALLY WANT TO KNOW, ARE YOU SELLING WOLF BISQUITS?

American Maid I didn’t really mean to flame you. Like you, I have strong feeling/opinions about the same things. I also think I was insensitive to your co-worker’s loss. That was tragic and my sincere condolences.

Don’t mean to bust YOUR bubble, pal, that ain’t the type of armor American Maid is referring too. I’m talking about Chabbam (sp?) or “inches of steel” or whatever that stuff was they had under our seats to protect the a-hole and family jewels. Obviously certain HUMVEES sport 50 mike-mike’s and TOW’s (note, not HELLFIRES because they need laser guidance.) Some probably even sport the 40mm grenade launcher if the driver requested it for some reason. We had that option on the AH-1: 40mm grenade launcher and 5.62 mini up front, two mini’s, or one 20mm. Depended on what model. The full mod (AH-1H) had the 20mm. Shit, I’ve been out since '94 and all the numbers and mods are starting to fade.

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I also find it extremely unlikely, considering the ARMY move up or move out policy that you were a Huey pilot in vietnam and still a low enough rank 30 years later in Desert Storm (wich I was in BTW) to still be driving a bird, and not command rank by then. I was a Sergeant in 101 MI LRSD (Airborne) attached to 1ID what unit did you drive apaches for? Also, my cousin is LT. General Vines, so I can find out. Even a CW04 would be past flight status. If I am wrong about your claims I welcome your correction. But as a prior serviceman (if you are) I am sure you will understand my concerns.{/QUOTE]

1st Cav in Nam, 7th/6th in Desert Storm. BTW, it was '72-‘74 in Nam so 30 years is not correct. Also, it is not unlikely at all. I got out, went back to college, then got a wild hair to go back in. Had to do the whole Ft. Rucker thing again at age 36 after fighting for a 6 yr age waiver. Had no desire to go the ‘zero’ route at my age. Went the AH-1 (Cobra) track, then, once in my unit, they transitioned to the AH-64 and back to Rucker for, I believe, 12 weeks. Graduated in June, fuckin’ Saddam invades in, what, August? BTW, plenty guys in my unit were W1’s (wobbly one’s) in Nam, stayed in Reserves, and ended up in Desert Storm as a CW4’s (you were incorrect in using CWO4).

We had the 20mm gatlings on the AH-1’s which I actually liked better than the 30mm on the 64 but the Hellfire is definitely superior to the TOW.

Are those like “ghost turds”?

Yep, me! You and me can become penpals. :slight_smile:

May I quote you on this if/when Kerry wins the election?

Yes, I think that about says it.

That wasn’t the thing that really, really upset you; it just gave you one more rock for to fit into your sad little slingshot.

Preach it, brother.

Is that like “Toys R’ Us” but for chubby folks?

Look, although I agree with you. Losing a son, 18 yrs old, has to be devastating emotionally. I can’t even imagine it. Can’t we be a little more compassionate?

This thread might be useful in my study of the etiology and epidemiology of Cognitive Dissonance.

skip maybe we should take this to e-mail. It appears to be kind of an ARMY thing, and I do not want to make acusations in public, that may be unwarranted. But I am unfamiliar with the “7th/6th” and could not find it on this list of units in Desert Storm also military.com with no success.

You also mentioned Hellfire Missiles, I cannot imagine why anyone would think an air to ground missile would be mounted on a HMMWV.

Many would in fact carry 40 mm grenade launchers, but I cannot imagine anyone in the ARMY would think that a driver can request one if it is not on the TOE [no fair googling] I do not care how long ago you got out you should recognize TOE.

also you said

that was known as a “Super Cobra” in Vietnam the AH-64 is the Apache.

but before you said you drove UH-1’s that is the HUEY altogether different from a AH-1 or AH-64.

I got out before you claim to have and I certainly remember all this crap. Enquiring minds want to know?

Cowardice and the support for Bush go hand in hand. Nothing but a bunch of whining pussies afraid of the boogeyman. So afraid in fact that they are willing to overlook the lies, deceptions and illegal activities of a corrupt and ineffective president.
You guys shame your whole country.
Seriously. Bush has accomplished something no president before him has. He has managed to make a good portion of this country ASHAMED to call themselves american.
You morons who willingly support this asshole just embarrass us more.

“Cognitive dissonance.” Is that like when you play music so loud it makes your head explode?

That’s a sucker bet. Obvious pissants don’t rate Secret Service files.