I know that current controversial political topics (the Tea Party, health care reform, birther-ism, toning down violent political speech, etc) have been argued o’er nearly to death on SDMB in the past few years, and been the subject of countless pittings. But I have to add my own. I’m just fucking fed up. :mad:
In just one day (today), in two completely unrelated contexts with completely different, mostly random (and intelligent!) people, I felt myself obliged to
a) point out that the President HAS a valid Hawaii birth certificate, has publicly released it, that said document is routinely accepted by the state of HI as proof of live birth therein, and that the director of the Hawaii State Department of Health has sworn to have personally seen the archived “long form” of said certificate; and
b) convince someone by using cites that Ann Coulter (one of this particular person’s right-wing heroes) really did in fact advocate for the forcible conversion of Muslims to Christianity, on at least one occasion.* And, once I proved to my interlocutor that Coulter really did say this, this person then went on to argue that I was arguing in bad faith and that Coulter’s comment wasn’t really that bad because–get this!–Coulter never actually used the actual word “forcible” in her conversion comment! :eek: So I guess by “convert them to Christianity”, Coulter really only meant something like, giving them Chick tracts and cookies and milk, and praying for them. :rolleyes: Are you fucking SHITTING ME?!? You have to resort to overreaching Biblical-style textual exegetical apologetics to prop up and defend your hatemongering fascist idols’ idiotic and bigoted comments?!? :mad:
FUCK THAT. And FUCK THEM.
[The source for this quote is easily found with six seconds of Googling.]
What I’m seeing these days, which I never really observed before on this sort of scale, is a massive and broad right-wing rejection of pretty much anything–including fucking FACTS, for Og’s sake!!!–that is inconvenient to the Most Holy Revealed Truth of Heroic Anti-Socialist American God-Blessed Conservatism.
These are intelligent people I was talking to. Intelligent. And one, I would even call “educated”. And they’re sweet, decent, hard-working Americans. But when the subject comes to Obama or left-right politics in general, they lose their fucking minds. Where in blue fuck did this popular insanity–this nationwide abandonment of reason among seemingly so much of the Right, and the consequent swallowing whole of great mounds of Beckian and Coulterian bigoted BULLSHIT–come from??
I swear things didn’t used to be like this. I really don’t recall there ever being this degree of irrationality and blind fanaticism in either the Right or the Left. At least not in my own lifetime.
It’s a sickness, and it’s deep. And I’m tired of having to stand up not for my own leftist viewpoints, but SIMPLY FOR FACTS AND FUCKING LOGIC. It’s very tiring. :mad: