Little kids generally need more supervision during this than, say, spouses or adult siblings, so I assumed that parents would absorb most of this stuff by sheer repeated exposure. I heartily agree that you can shoo adults away from you, especially if they’re asking you to watch multiple films.
The title of the thread was: “So I finally got around to watching Star Wars… I regret that decision”; and the OP was basically about how disappointing the franchise was. How is a post agreeing that they suck “threadshitting”? How can you complain that someone expresses not liking something in a thread with a title and OP that express almost the exact same sentiment? It’s not “threadshitting”, it’s expressing an opinion.
I don’t want a message board where opinions that disagree with the OP are considered wrong. I completely understand your point if there is a fan thread, like “Boy, puppies are really cool!” and the OP states he/she doesn’t want dissenting opinions, but that’s simply not what happened here.
It really isn’t. The OP said “Wow, I finally watched this thing everyone likes, and I didn’t like it. I really didn’t like it. I don’t get why everyone likes it. Why do you like it?” It’s a difference of opinion, but that’s perfectly fair, and the OP wanted to start a conversation about it.
pepperlandgirl’s posts were nothing more than attacking the fans who posted to the thread and in general. “OP, I’m so sorry you have to deal with this pileon of asstards who love these steaming piles of shit they call movies.” She didn’t read the thread nor did she actually read the OP all that well, and just took the thread as a chance to bitch about people who like Star Wars, not about the movies themselves.
Your interpretation is far more neutral in tone than the OP’s actual statements. And if he genuinely wanted opinions, then there’s nothing wrong with having and sharing an opinion that is against the grain of the majority of the other opinions.
Yet, again, pepperlandgirl did not just share her opinion of the movies, she shared her highly negative opinion of the people who liked the movies. That’s dickish.
Of course, I read all that thread, but maybe I missed where a pro-SW poster said something to the effect of “If you don’t like SW, there’s something wrong with you,” rather than just discussing why they like the movie and speculating on why it got so much traction as it did.
Lancia, the OP, is continuing the discussion in good faith. Whether or not the original post was antagonistic, Lancia was genuinely interested in replies. The OP didn’t even nearly begin to approach “the movies suck and you all suck for liking them” in tone.
The only thing she said about the people who like the films was “we’ll be stuck with it and its fans for an eternity” which is pretty clearly hyperbole. The rest of her comments are detailing the movies as pieces of shit and made by a hack. Lobot seems to be jumping the gun by saying she’s saying people who like the movies have no taste. That may well be her opinion but I don’t see a post that says everyone here who likes the movies has no taste and I hate them.
I started the other thread.
I made a point in my OP of NOT attacking or questioning the people who like Star Wars. I said I watched the movies because they are significant pieces of popular culture, and frankly wanted to see what I was missing… I found them boring. I asked people why they liked the movies and if I was missing something obvious. I figured there was something wrong with ME, since I nave honestly never met someone who didn’t like the movies. I wanted honest opinions on the movie, not badmouthing the fans or non-fans. Hell, I loved Waterworld, and most of humanity hates that movie. I’m not about to shit on them because they don’t like that particular movie. I am very pleased that three pages of discussion on SW remained polite and civil, considering how strongly some people feel about the films. Goes to show a little respect goes a long way.
Having said that, I don’t have an issue with what pepperlandgirl said, with the exception of apparently not reading the three pages of thread before posting. If someone (generic someone) had posted something like “Star Wars fans suck shit and every single one of them needs to die in a house fire, and George Lucas needs to be dragged out into the street and raped and shot, and…”. THAT would piss me right off. This? Not a bit. She obviously didn’t add anything useful to the discussion, but she wasn’t nasty.
I agree it sounds like she has some other issues, much bigger than her opinions on SW.
You know what? Fair enough. I reread it, and most of what I read was by implication only, and conflated with elfkin’s earlier post. So I retract my characterizations.
But yes, the flippant dismissal of 3 pages of discussion is still not cool.
I’m a big opponent of threadshitting. It’s very hard to have an “appreciation” thread here. People should be able to discuss their appreciation for an artist/work of art/sport/etc in peace without threadshitters coming in and pissing on it.
That said, the thread in question wasn’t an appreciation thread. It started off negatively and PLG’s post was pure commiseration with the OP. If anything the people talking about how good it was were the ones off topic.
To me, she didn’t do anything wrong at all. If the OP had been “Wow!! I just saw the Star Wars movies and loved them…let us talk about how great they were”, yeah, PLG’s post would have been out of line. But it wasn’t and she wasn’t.
Don’t like it? Open a Star Wars appreciation thread of your own.
This is the number-one thing that pissed me off, and it’s not even just that she failed to read the thread. Fine, not everyone reads the entire thread before jumping in. Whatever. But if you are going to whine and bitch about the three pages of commentary preceding your post, maybe you could take five minutes and actually fucking read it first.
Wow.
Pokemon. Gotta catch 'em all. No, seriously, all eight kajillion of them. Each one gets it’s own episode. After a while you’re drawn in, and you start to have opinions, theories, ideas. Same with Teletubbies - I started wondering if Teletubbies land was God’s first crack at creation, and maybe the sun baby was God, but as a baby. This is a route to madness.
These movies have so many rabid fanboys and fangirls I think she’d need to start a few dozen threads about how much she hates them to even things out.
I was thinking that it was much more likely to be children doing the ‘strong-arming’.
pepperlandgirl said that it was her sister and her husband. Although now that you mention it, she didn’t specifically say that either of those people was an adult…
My kids see better movies (hear better music, etc.) by virtue of my unwillingness to sit through stupid shit.
Conceding to “strong-arming” by adults makes even less sense. It’s not as if they can’t go without you, or you can’t figure out what to do with yourself while they’re gone. Right?
Note that the thread was on-track for 120 posts, but pepperlandgirl’s post garnered a very different response to Lancia’s OP. Why? Because it was qualitatively different in tone and excution. I really don’t care who likes or doesn’t like Star Wars–one of my friends doesn’t get it at all, but he’s a cricket fan (which I don’t get) so it all evens out.
Hell, even if it was just “Those fucking movies suck so bad, the cinematic black hole created by them once spaghettified my cat!” and I wouldn’t have cared. There are internet arseholes everywhere, and some of them are funny.
But to come bounding in with (paraphrased) “I haven’t even read this thread, but I know what’s in it and it’s no doubt complete bullshit” is really off, especially when you add that nothing constructive can be added because the topic being discussed over three pages isn’t even worth discussing. It’s completely dismissive, not only of the fans’ contribution to the thread but also to the detractors who contributed in good faith.
You, my friend, have missed an important life experience. (Note to young parents, don’t ever let your children see “A Clockwork Orange”, at least until they move out.)
Kids?!? My eyes are drying out again!
Kids!?!
Duct tape is the handyman’s friend.
In an “I don’t like X” thread, how can a post saying “I don’t like X” be inappropriate?
This all seems like fanboy defensiveness to me. Someone doesn’t like a movie? Big whoop. Why do you even care?
See post #36.