WWII Buffs: Can You Clarify for Me?

How is it that Europe caved to the Nazis and/or Nazi occupation so (seemingly) quickly across most of Europe? For each country listed below, can you tell me if each one: Resisted? Sympathized? Taken by surprise? and/or Had no means to resist? I’d really like to know to better understand this Wikipedia map of WWII Europe.

Poland?
Austria?
Sudetenland / Czechoslovakia?
France?
The Slavic countries?
Denmark?
Finland?
Norway?

Bonus question: Assuming many of these countries had armies, why didn’t Europe see what was coming and band together to stop the Germans?
I assume there are short answers for each country, even if one must generalize. France may be the most complex to explain, I wager. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

All of the countries on your list but Finland, Austria, and the Sudetenland fought against Germany and were defeated. Austria and the Sudetenland were the ‘see what’s coming’ phase. Finland was invaded by the USSR after Germany was at war with France and Britain, lost territory but remained independant, then allied with Germany to take back said territory. I’m not sure what’s complex about France, they mobilized their army and managed to lose the initial phase badly to a combination of bad luck and good tactics on the part of the Germans, then resisted until the army was basically ineffective.

Not sure what you mean by ‘the slavic countries’, the Baltic states were conquered by the USSR in while Germany was conquering poland, the Balkan countries that ended up on Germany’s side were not actually slavic and allied with Germany in fear of and to fight the USSR.

Poland: Had a right-wing government that wasn’t naturally opposed to the Nazis. In fact, Poland worked with the Nazis during the Czechoslovakian invasion and got its own piece of Czech territory. They ended up getting invaded in turn by Germany because the Nazis wanted to expand eastwards and Poland was right there. Poland has a decent army but it was outnumbered by Germany. Plus the Soviets helped the Germans invade Poland (and, like Poland, got invaded in turn).

Austria: Austria had a lot of cultural connections with Germany and many Austrians supported unification with Germany. The Germans used this as justification for annexing Austria and once they had done that, they suppressed any Austrians who had opposed the unification.

Sudetenland / Czechoslovakia: Sort of three different cases here. The Sudentenlanders were ethnic Germans and, like the Austrians, many of them liked the idea of uniting with Germany. Besides the Sudentenland Germans, Czechoslovakia had two major ethnic groups: the Czechs and the Slovaks. The Czechs had more power and the Slovaks resented this. Germany played to this resentment by making Slovakia a nominally independent country when they invaded Czechoslovakia (although in practical terms, Slovakia was a German satellite).

France: No real excuse for France. They were a major power and could have resisted Germany. I blame poor generalship for France’s defeat.

The Slavic countries: Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania were all right wing dictatorships. Germany was stronger than any of them and when they were asked to ally with Germany, they all did so. Yugoslavia originally did so as well. But then an anti-German group overthrew the government and repudiated Yugoslavia’s alliance with Germany. The Germans responded by invaded Yugoslavia and breaking up the country. As in Czechoslovakia, there were ethnic issues in Yugoslavia: the Serbs were the most powerful ethnic group and the Croats were number two. As with Slovakia, Germany allowed Croatia to form its own nominally independent country.

Denmark: Denmark had been a proclaimed neutral country and only had a token military. When Germany invaded, Denmark did not resist. As a result, the German occupation of Denmark was relatively benign.

Finland: Finland saw the Soviets as a bigger threat than the Nazis so they willingly allied with Germany.

Norway: Norway miscalculated. Sweden had built up a relatively strong military and was prepared to resist a German invasion. Norway figured that any German invasion of Norway would have to be preceded by a German invasion of Sweden and that Swedish resistance would give them some time to react and build up their defenses. But Germany surprised Norway by invading the country from the sea and air rather than by the land route through Sweden.

I’ve dredged up a map of Europe before WWI. As you can see, the German Empire was much larger than the Germany we know today. Those countries that Germany took before Sept. 1st, 1939 had something of a German identity to begin with. The policy of appeasement during this time as based on letting Germany collect together again the German people.

There’s always the “what if” debate if Germany had be accepting of the Poles balking at the overtures to join the new German nation … who knows … but as you can see by the map I posted, a considerable part of Poland was in fact German territory, the State of Prussia to be exact. So I think it’s fair to say that starting with the invasion of Poland on Sept 1st, 1939; those countries added were overrun by the German armies.

ETA: Nice summary Little Nemo, thanks for the breakdown …

:confused: The Balkan countries are all Slavic except Albania (Wikipedia notes that parts of other non-Slavic countries might be included but most of the core were Slavic speakers). Yugoslavia’s postwar national anthem was “Hey, Slavs”! Yugoslavia had royalist Serb and communist Yugoslav resistance movements, while the individual governments either were occupied or more willingly joined (e.g. Croatia).

Otherwise, correct. Note that some of these, like Norway, the main government fled and ran a government in exile while Germany installed puppet leaders.

Most of these countries did fight back, but had to face one of the most militarized countries and eventually fell. Some had the USSR on the other side invading/threatening them as well.

There have been entire libraries filled with answers to these questions, on how was Hitler’s lightning war so successful and why wasn’t the political will there to resist, the reasons differ by country but as you note the fall of France in June 1940 was probably the biggest shock to the Allied cause, its reasons are myriad.

In the case of unfortunate Poland, as well as having two tyrannies attack her from east and west her allies compounded the problem by urging her not to mobilise to avoid provoking Hitler. Antony Beevor in The Second World War (a good general overview) records that on the 1st of September as a result of British and French ambassadors urging them to hold back the order to mobilise had been given and cancelled multiple times, caused such chaos that only a third of Poland’s front line troops were in position.

In the case of Norway and Denmark, the element of surprise helped the Germans immeasurably - Beevor records that Germany had troops in Copenhagen before the shore batteries had even been alerted. Things were a bit tougher in Norway, the Germans lost a few ships, but at sea the Royal Navy’s partial success did not prevent 100,000 German soldiers being transported to Norway. Denmark felt they had no choice but to accept German demands, the Norweigans with considerable courage attacked already established German 3rd Mountain Division, but Luftwaffe air supremacy proved to much and the Norwegians established a government-in-exile.

In France, part of it was the effectiveness of the German army which had seen conscription since 1935 and its officers raised in the Prussian tradition, namely Manstein and Guderian who were behind the concept of the Blitzkrieg and a hitherto unthought of armoured thrust through the relatively undefended Ardennes (a view reinforced by a plane crash which revealed the original German plan of attack), bypassing the French defences of the now infamous Maginot Line.

Part of it was genuine lack of enthusiasm on the part of the troops for another war with Germany, the last of which had bled France white. The initial ‘Phoney War’ period speaks much to this, where the western allies while technically at war with Germany, didn’t really do much of anything. A commentator in London at the time reported that the war had a ‘a strange, somnambulist quality’ that spread to the front lines - a Reuters correspondent asked French troops with Germans in clear sight why they didn’t shoot them - with shock the answer came ‘…if we fire, they will fire back.’ There were myriad other faults that would take too long to give a detailed answer to, from unprepared French defences build by civilian contractors which faced the wrong way to the inadequate French air force flying antiquated aircraft against a supreme Luftwaffe, to a lethal paralysis of decision by France’s leaders who were living in denial.

This quote by a German soldier from the time sum up the chaotic response to their onslaught;
“There are many, many divisions here who haven’t fired a shot. And at the front the enemy are running away. French and English, equal adversaries in the world war, refuse to take us on now. In truth, our aircraft are in command of the skies. We haven’t seen one single enemy aircraft, only our own. Just imagine. Positions like Amiens, Laon, Chemin des Dames are falling within hours. In 14-18 they were fought over for years.”

It is impossible to look at this without taking World War I into context. Tens of thousands killed in a single day, and the war lasting for years. Nobody had any enthusiasm or spooled up for another bloodletting. They were all dead.

Wow! Big question and requires a big long answer but let me try and give a short answer.

Austria: Conquered thru political maneuvering by Germany. At the time Germany was looking pretty cool and lots of Austrians were pro German and thought it might work out for the best.

Czechoslovakia: Ready to fight but betrayed by their NEEDED allies Britain and France. Once they were betrayed they choose peace and conceded land to Germany but doing so completely compromised their defenses and Germany took it all instead of just the conceded part. If they fought they couldn’t win alone against powerful Germany so they opted for peace thru submission to annexation.

Poland: They did fight but they weren’t ready and Germany was more ready. New blitzkrieg tactics of Germany had Poland off balance from the start and Poland’s armies never recovered from Germany’s rapid big victories. Might have been able to hold out longer but gigantic Russia also invaded Poland a short time after Germany invaded and if they ever had any chance, then once the Russians showed up, there was zero chance of Poland’s survival.

Norway: Put up the best fight they could but Norway was a small country and Germany was a big country. Really they could never have won. Britain and France did send help but Germans fought better and harder and smarter and won.

France: Combined British and French armies had everything needed to at least force Germany into a stalemate. But German tactics and leadership were excellent and British/French tactics and leadership were weak. France blew it and lost their nation.

Denmark: Tiny poorly armed nation that Germany steamrolled easily. They never had any chance at all. Same story for the Netherlands.

Belgium: Same as Denmark. Would have helped if they allowed British and French troops into their neutral country before war began but they hoped neutrality status would save them. It didn’t.

Albania/Greece/Yugoslavia: Small nations that never had any chance against powerful Germany. British tried to help (France already knocked out) but in land warfare Britain was not any match for Germans. British small good army but Germany big excellent army.

Finland: in 1939/40 Russia took a good chunk of land away from tiny Finland. When Germany invaded Russia in 1941 Finland saw chance to take back that land so they formed alliance with Germany. And they did take back land Russia had stolen from them.

Rumania and Bulgaria: Caught between super power Germany and super power Russia. No option to stay out of war. Had to choose one side or other or be invaded by Russia or invaded by Germany. Since historically Russia had been bullying them and stealing their land they decided to side with Germany.

In Summary only countries powerful enough to resist Germany were Britain, France, Russia, and USA. Russia and USA didn’t want to fight. Other nations had zero chance to resist unless one of the powerful countries helped them.

Forgot about the Netherlands, which did put up heroic resistance in Rotterdam, the outcome of which can best be summed up in this image of Rotterdam after a visit from the Kampfgeschwader 54. The Germans threatened to do the same to Utrecht if Dutch capitulation was not forthcoming. With no means to prevent further immolation of their cities the Dutch surrendered rather than brave suicidal odds.

The case of Belgium is a sad tale to tell which ended in their King, Leopold III losing all faith in the Allied cause. The beginning of the end was the masterfully executed (by the Germans) Battle of Fort Eben-Emael, the fort modeled on the good old Maginot philosophy defended three bridges into Belgium. Elite German gliderborne *fallschirmjager *landed on its roof taking the garrison completely by surprise and allowing German troops to bypass other Belgian defences right into her heart.

Also to add that Finland, Bulgaria and Romania were forced by the Soviets to fight against Germany from late summer 1944, not just people from those countries but the official armed forces of the state. That was a token effort against holdout German forces which refused to leave Finland in that case, but a more significant effort by the Bulgarian and especially the Romanian Armies. The Romanian Army was the fourth largest and suffered the third highest casualties* among Allied armies in Europe in the period it was a de facto member, August 23 1944-VE Day (after Soviet and US casualties).

Also to note the lack of conviction in the efforts of a lot of Norwegian forces early in the 1940 campaign. As is well known there was some active pro-Nazi sentiment among public figures (eg. Quisling), but the problem in lots of actual tactical situations of the early days was confusion and hesitance to engage the Germans. It was more inertia or defeatism than actual sympathy but their forces did not achieve the maximum they might have despite their material deficiencies. For example Norwegian coast defenses inflicted a significant disaster on the Germans sinking the heavy cruiser Blucher, in the Drobak Narrows of the Oslo Fjord; the German ship was basically counting on them not opening fire at can’t miss distance (guns and shore torpedo tubes). That might have been repeated in other places albeit harder shots but where the Norwegians did hesitate at times to open fire, or were too fearful of accidentally engaging Allied ships (in one case believing they saw Allied flags even though the Germans ships were not attempting such a ruse).

*per “Third Axis Fourth Ally-Romanian Forces in the European War 1941-1945” by Mark Axworthy

Hungary, Romania, and Greece are definitely not Slavic countries by any stretch of the term, and Hungary and Romania (along with Finland) are the main countries other than Italy and Germany to send troops to the Eastern Front, while Greece was the subject of a significant military campaign, so they’re not really something you can overlook. I was confused by the OP’s question because ‘slavic countries’ aren’t usually discussed as a block when talking about WW2, it’s an odd division to ask about.

That’s a bit misleading. Poland’s government, while authoritarian, was in fact, extremely reluctant to work with the Nazis. In 1938/1939 Hitler went to a great effort to secure Poland as an ally against the Soviet Union, demanding only a relatively small (at least in his yes) concessions such as Danzig and extraterritorial highway through the so-called Polish Corridor. This efforts were rejected.
Poland’s participation in the partition of Czechoslovakia was extremely shortsighted and morally reprehensible, but it was opportunistic score-settling rather than deliberate cooperation with the Nazis.

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Both Bulgaria and Romania own their existence as independence nations to the Russian wars with the Ottoman Empire.

"Both Bulgaria and Romania own their existence as independence nations to the Russian wars with the Ottoman Empire."

In 1940 the Soviet Union occupied Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina (parts of Romania). Not the kind of thing that can easily overlooked nor forgiven.

I did roll Bulgaria and Romania together in this but I was trying to go for the short answer and made it too short.

It’s debatable whether you can call the territory between East and West Prussia (ie the Polish Corridor) German territory. It’s true that Germany had political control over that territory since 1772. But the majority of people who lived in the territory in 1914 were still speaking Polish and considered themselves Poles rather than Germans.

So Poland (and other countries including the United States) felt that Poland had a legitimate claim to the territory; they felt the territory was being restored to its natural owner rather than stolen. Even the Germans had accepted this in principle. Restoration of the Polish Corridor to Poland was one of Wilson’s “Fourteen Points” and that was the basis on which Germany had said they were willing to stop fighting in 1918.

On a related note Dwight Eisenhower in his book “Crusade in Europe” says as a student at West Point he never really understood why Napoleon Bonaparte was successful for so long. But as Commander of Allied forces he found out why: coalitions are damn difficult to put together and get everyone working on the same page. Even in your own country there are always disputes as to the best way to win a war.

The reason the politics were so awkward is because ethnic and cultural lines got very, very blurry in Eastern Europe, not just in the Balkans. Hitler’s early aggresssions were all linked to “German” areas in parts of Europe not part of the nation-state of Germany. I place “German” in quotes because ethnic and cultural lines weren’t and aren’t that clear then or now. Which isn’t to say those divisions don’t or can’t exist, but they’re hard to define clearly. Certainly, though, German-speaking people existed in scattered regions well outside of Germany proper, which gave his brutality a veneer of respectability since national integrity was (supposedly) a respectable principle of international diplomacy.

Are we talking about brutality as in conquering nations with German speakers, or murdering Jews?

Eh, sort of? If we’re talking about the Polish Corridor specifically, there had been a lot of German settlement from 1772 to 1914, and, while “But the majority of people who lived in the territory in 1914 were still speaking Polish and considered themselves Poles rather than Germans.”, might be true, ethnic Germans made up about 43% of the population of the Polish Corridor. (It might not be true, either…there was a large Kashrubian population in the Polish Corridor as well, so it’s quite possible the Polish population in 1914 was below 50%.) Danzig, was, of course, predominantly German.

Now, most of the German population of the Polish Corridor had left it by 1939, but it wasn’t so clear in 1914.

True. You can look at the Sudetenland for an example of how muddled geography can be. It’s true that the Sudetenland had the highest percentage of Germans in Czechoslovakia but it was a relative number: less than 25% of the Sudetenland population was German. (Of course, in a legal sense, there were no Germans living there; there were Czechoslovakians who spoke German and considered themselves to be ethnically German.)

So Hitler could claim he was liberating Sudetenland from Czech rule but the reality was that the majority of people living in the Sudetenland were Czechs who didn’t want to live under German rule. (And I’m sure there was a significant number of German Sudetenlanders who preferred to live as an ethnic minority in democratic Czechoslovakia rather than as part of the majority in Nazi Germany.)

I assume he means conquering nations with German speakers, since much of the internment of Jewish citizens did not happen until the war had started. And of course, the murder rampages and wholesale slaughter in eastern Europe (and everywhere) didn’t happen until the war.

I knew a family that identified as German. Their ancestors had come over to Canada around WWI, but their old home town is part of Poland today. The ethnic mixing is quite common in Europe. Heck, Alsace-Lorraine also has an interesting history going back centuries.