I sort of assumed that Wolverine was just a re-usable guinea pig. Do an experient on him, see how he reacts, tear it out, wait twenty minutes for him to heal, repeat. He just happened to have escaped after they did the adamantium infusion. Or possibly something in the nature of adamantium made that one enhancement stick, while his healing factor rejected the thermal vision and fart suppressor.
Alternatively, the adamantium was Phase One, and he escaped before they could get to Phase Two.
It’s all very simple guys.
Phase 1: put adamantium into Logan’s body.
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit.
I must say that Winsling and Miller offer an extremely compelling argument regarding the true nature of the Weapon X program. Unfortunately, when Stryker first encounters Wolverine, his first reaction is to express pride and satisfaction at his successful handiwork; if the “Wolverine as lab rat/first stage cyborg” theory were true, you would expect his reaction to be more along the lines of, “Jerk! Why the hell did you run off before we could install the Gadget-copter?”
Also, the first thing Stryker apparently did after Wolverine ran off was to make another adamantium-laced bodyguard. So obviously he thinks that this is somehow a good idea. It’s my theory that Stryker, having discovered the secret to creating liquid adamantium, is desperate to find a way to incorporate his discovery into any new project he gets involved in, whether it’s appropriate or not. If you hired him to remodel your house, chances are you’d hear, “…and you’ll never have to worry about the window screens tearing, since they have been bonded with liquid adamantium…”
This also ties in neatly with Fiver’s very reasonable objection regarding Wolverine’s ability to reject/eject foreign matter. In the comics, it has been revealed that Wolverine’s healing factor is the real reason why he was selected for the Weapon X program, since normal subjects tend to die of massive metal poisoning after recieving the adamantium treatment. In Wolverine’s case, his healing factor averts this effect, but at a cost: because of the adamantium, his healing factor only operates at a fraction of its normal efficiency. So this raises another question–why would you want to take a perfectly good mutant that is already practically indestructible, whose most impressive power is to heal instantly from any injury, and subject him to an invasive and superfluous procedure that will almost certainly kill him? Contrariwise, if the research was really to study the effect of adamantium bonding on a human, using a superhealing mutant as a test subject probably wouldn’t provide much useful data.
And even if they did manage to duplicate his healing factor somehow, enabling them to employ the adamantium-bonding process on a wide scale, what would you end up with? An army of guys with metal skeletons, which brings us back to the main issue at hand: a metal skeleton is practically useless! Oh, it’s a great idea if you have a job where you ski a lot, but otherwise it’s a fairly pointless upgrade. Yeah, you’ll feel real cocky and full of yourself with your new unbreakable skeleton, until you run up against Magneto. Or Pyro, for that matter. Or freaking Storm, or Iceman. Or basically any mutant that can kill you in a way that having an indestructible skeleton won’t protect you from, which let’s be honest is most of them. So the one thing that a metal skeleton will do for you is look really cool after you die.
Well, in Wolvie’s case, it makes him much more unkillable. If it weren’t for the unbreakable skeleton, you could just tear him apart or blow him into bloody chunks. But the skeleton means that he’ll always have something left from which to reform, no matter how bad you fry him or smash him or whatever. You also forgot about his claws. Without the upgrade, they’d just be bone (though I guess this version of Wolverine doesn’t know that they are native either), and couldn’t necessarily cut through anything, like his current claws can.
Also, I sort of thought that Jason was supposed to be Mastermind, since his mutant powers are based around illusion, not straight-ahead mind control. It’s only his spinal fluid that had the “mind-control” side effect: not something the comics ever went into for ANY character that I know of.
Also, they have the same first name.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=689
Mesmero was named Vincent, and had more direct “hypnosis” powers.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=705
Wolverine’s an old character. The one who dreamt him up wanted Wolverine to have indestructible metallic claws (kewl!). But how does a mutation of DNA create a metal which doesn’t exist in the human body? The answer: Wolverine’s improbable backstory, which gives him an ‘edginess.’
Of course, this was back in the day when verisimilitude was somewhat of an aim (it could happen!). Nowadays, it’s out the window. Mutants can now do magical stuff and break reality rather than stretch it. How does Colossus (sp?) get his metallic exoskeleton?
Peace.
Well, Wolverine and Colossus joined the X-men at the same time. I don’t think Wolvie was around for that much longer beforehand, although I know he had appeared previously.
My question: what was Nightcrawler yelling when Storm and Jean first entered the church where he was living? Was it English, German, a mix of both? What words?
His diet includes mineral supplements
The “new” X-Men (as the term was originally used) weren’t any less improbable than (most of) the original five. I’d guess the least implausible was Beast, before he entered his “blue” period.
I’m a little curious how Cyclops blasts loose with all that kinetic energy without sending himself flying backwards from the recoil, but my disbelief is comfortably suspended.
racinchikki wrote:
He appeared in a single HULK story (2 issues) about a year before his first X-Men appearance. He had no real powers, and it looked like his claws were part of his gloves (They even had little lines on them to indicate they telescoped out, like collapsing campsite cups; these were edited out of any reprints of this story). The readers–and Banshee, another X-Man of the same general era–were surprised to discover that the claws were part of Wolverine’s arm.
“Get out!” English, with a heavy German accent.
Regarding the movie’s end:
Jean Grey got killed? Just when she was manifesting some incredible power boost that looked a bit like fire? Damn! 'Cause you don’t come back after something like that happens to you!
umm… What about JOINTS? You can’t make those out of metal, since they have to move. In my opinion, this really negates any small advantage a metal skeleton may have. You could still blow him apart.
I just came back from seeing the movie, and that metal skeleton thing doesn’t make any sense to me either. Did the female that wolverine defeated have the same mutant ability he did?
Another thing that bugged me was why didn’t they just have the “iceman” freeze the water that was coming out of the dam?
But then again, who said comics had to make sense…
It was German, he was repeatedly telling them to “go away”.
Oh, you’re right. That’s why robots can’t exist. Metal can’t move: got it.
Look, the answer to all this is easy. Superman spun around it really, really fast. That fixed it. Any more problems?
I thought about this while watching the movie too. Maybe he’s not powerful enough to freeze that much water? That’s the best I could come up with, since I never read the comics or watched the cartoons when I was younger.
Look, Terrifel, if you’re going to insist on approaching this movie with logic, then I just can’t help you.
What sounded like “Get out!” in English was “Gihen zie raus!”(sp?) in German, which of course, means “Get out!” in English 
There are no adamantium plates. His skeleton was coated with liquid adamantium, which having solidified could not be extruded without taking the skeleton with it. (And as Origin showed us, Wolvie’s claws are also part of his skeleton.)
No, you didn’t. IIRC, you can even see his ventilator in the right-profile shot we get of him.
As to his physical problems, I suspect that they are actually a lingering side effect of having been strapped to a bed for a year by Kevin Spacey…
Gehen sie aus, I think. As you said, it means “get out”. And he’s saying it very politely
Question.
So Stryker used Jason to make Prox. X set his brain to fry all mutants. Got it. Once that started happening, all the mutants were in terrible pain, unable to move or use their powers. How, exactly, did Jason maintain control over Xavier’s mind? He is himself, a mutant. Shouldn’t he be experiencing massive pain? Shouldn’t Xavier, for that matter?
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Justin
Maybe it had to do with being inside of Cerebro.
Also, the pain was caused by Xavier doing an ultra-intensive “scan” of the mutant mind (see his conversation with Logan near the start of the movie re: Nightcrawler). Obviously, under the scenario projected into his brain, Xavier wasn’t scanning his OWN head…