In order to play Kingdom Hearts, one must have a PS2. 
I like that game!
And thanks to Disney, my wife will be a little Squaresoft whore too!
I am not a whore! We would have more expensive stuff if I made that kind of money!:rolleyes:
And don’t forget about XBOX Live which allows you to play online multiplayer games (you’ll need a broadband connection)
Just play on them both and you’ll soon realise which is better. The PS2’s controller is nice, and fits in your hands perfectly. The Xbox’s, however, is not. It’s like palm rape.
Get a PS2, be clever
PS2 has online play as well - and the Network Adapter works as both an Ethernet card and a modem, so you don’t need broadband.
It’s less “integrated” than Xbox Live, which can be good and bad… there’s no global ranking system, you use a different screen name for each game, and voice chat only works with games that support it (i.e. SOCOM), but you don’t have to pay a monthly fee if you don’t play subscription games like EverQuest.
They were trying to sell me one at the shop I bought my (still not working) Xbox, but I didn’t get one.
Since then I’ve seen lots of sniping at Xbox controllers, how “big” and crap they are. (Witness Pretend above).
Sooooooo - what is the true situation here? Xbox controller crap, others worse??? Or others less worse?
Absolutely not. They still make games for PS1! How could PS2 be on the way out?
X-Box may have better hardware, but it is generally more expensive, the controller isn’t as good, and the selection can’t be compared.
There are thousands of PS1 games that you can play- with enhanced graphics- on PS2. Some are truly elite games like FFVII. And they are dirt cheap now.
I say get a PS2. I am satisfied with it.
BS. I bought the Madcatz Microcon, not the regular Madcatz, for my Xbox and it is the best controller I have had since the NES Advantage. I went out and bought one for my PS2 as well, even though the PS2 controller is pretty much perfect.
Can I get some examples of stuff that is more expensive on the Xbox than it is on the PS2? I can’t think of one thing that is.
Buy whatever you can get the best deal on. I think that buy.com has 10 percent savings on them now.
Frankly, if you put a generic controller in my hands & put a game on the screen, I wouldn’t be able to know if the game was on a PS2 or Xbox…
also search the forum on these things as we wrote hundreds of opinions already. Zelda hurry up & come out!
The PS2 is the better console.
The controllers are a reasonable size rather than a broad swath of black plastic with widely spaced buttons. My upstairs friend has an XBOX, which he bought for a hundred dollars from a friend, and he remains steadfast in his assertation after the first three months with the XBOX that he would not have paid more for such a system.
The games on XBOX aren’t very good either and are the same fare you can get on any PC games. The graphics are the same but I don’t care about graphics, I care about gameplay. Blood Wake? Halo? Jet Set Radio Future? I hear Morrowwind is a good game if you’re into micromanagement and building up every single skill over the course of hundreds of gameplay hours until you’re actually inducted into the main plot of the game rather than aimlessly wandering some outdoor Quake map.
Another ringing endorsement for the PS2 is the fact that the XBOX is lagging behind in sales over in Japan. I’m sure there are extenuating circumstances like Microsoft not wanting to lose money by flooding their market but I’m certain if the XBOX was good then everyone in that crowded island nation would be crying out for more XBOXes to arrive on their shores.
The PS2 has online games, not that many, but the online games don’t force you to buy broadband. The only reasons for broadband are pr0n, bragging rights, mp3s and warez. XBOX gives you the first year for free, after you buy the fifty dollar online setup, which requires you to give your credit card# to pay for the next year’s subscription which has yet to be announced. Just like a drug dealer, the first one is free. They know you’ll be back and they’ll take advantage of you. Yes, it’s FUD but it’s valid FUD.
I really don’t understand all the criticism of the Xbox controller. My Xbox came with the Controller S, which is smaller than the first standard controller that was shipped. I think it’s great. It fits nicely in my hands. With the PS2 controller, I often feel like I’m about to drop it, especially if I have to use the L1/L2/R1/R2 buttons. Which raises another issue: on the PS2 controller, I find that I hit the wrong button a lot more frequently, probably because it’s smaller and the buttons are closer together. The Xbox controller gives me something to grip, rather than balancing the controller on the edges of my middle fingers. And I don’t know if they’re all this way, but on the PS2 controller I’ve used, the tops of the joystick were convex, with some kind of grippy-stuff on them that didn’t grip well at all. My thumbs slip off them often. The Xbox joysticks have concave rubbery tops, which means less slipping. I also like the breakaway connectors, which ensure that the console won’t get pulled off the shelf/table/whatever if someone trips over the extra-long cord. That, to me, says that some intelligent thought went into the design, something that I thought I’d never say about Microsoft.
Now, I’ve never used the original, larger Xbox controller, and maybe that’s the one y’all are basing your opinions on. But, again, in my experience, the Xbox’s controller is nicer.
Things can get slippery while playing that DOA Volleyball game.
Shouldn’t this thread be in GD? 
We have both PS2 and XBox. PS2 will play DVD movies right out of the box but Xbox needs a $30 kit. Xbox has built in ethernet for broadband while PS2 needs an adapter.
I’d say the PS2 gets more play.
I honestly don’t understand the complaints about the Xbox controller. As someone with the smallest hands of any guy I know, one would expect that if anyone should complain about large controller size, it would be me. However, I find that the stock Xbox controller fits fine. It’s certainly larger than its PS2 and Gamecube counterparts, but after an hour or so of Halo-playing, my hands got used to the size difference. I enjoy the solid feeling it gives, and actually feel slightly awkward holding smaller controllers now, which feel like they’re about to break in my hands if I grasp them too hard. Ultimately, I think it’s a question of adjustment… I’ve found that most people who bash the Xbox controller haven’t given it the few hours necessary to get used to a controller that wasn’t designed for smaller Asian hands.
Gamewise, it really depends on your tastes. I own both a PS2 and an Xbox, and the latter gets far more play simply because it has both Halo and Xbox Live. I got tired of GTA3 after a few days, because IMO open-endedness is only a good thing up to a certain point. I like having a coherent storyline to follow, and tend to enjoy games more often when I have a given objective. I want the thinking aspect of my game to go along the lines of “okay, I’m in this tough situation… how can I get out?”
This is what Halo does, and what most action games these days do not. Halo does not generally have complex puzzles for the player to solve- instead, the puzzles stem from the specific combat situations you find yourself in. Got three Covenant Elites around the corner and nothing but grenades and a plasma pistol? Charging in will get you killed, no matter how good you are at jumping around. Instead, try sticking a grenade to one Elite, zapping a second Elite’s shields with the pistol, and then ducking back into cover to allow your shields to recharge. Alternatively, you could try sneaking around them and nailing each Elite with a melee attack to the back of the head. Or whatever. It’s up to you, the game designers didn’t specifically put this situation into the level, with one specific way to beat it. The next time through the game, one of the Elites might’ve decided to patrol closer and gotten itself killed far earlier, leaving just two for you to take out. Or maybe the Grunts you didn’t kill earlier will have retreated here, and so you’ll have to worry about them in addition to the Elites. It’s dynamic, and it requires actual tactical thinking on the player’s part. That’s one of several reasons why Halo was (and still is) such a killer app for the Xbox, and why I still have great fun tearing through the single-player campaign despite having beaten it countless times on all four difficulty modes.
…heh, whoops. I need to curb the inclination to rant about my favorite games. 
Anyway, don’t let the above fool you: Halo isn’t the only excellent game the Xbox has to offer. Panzer Dragoon Orta is beautiful, in addition to being fun (although incredibly difficult). MechAssault on Xbox Live is great, and anyone who finds it too slow-paced can always opt for Unreal Championship instead. Then there’s also games such as Morrowind and Splinter Cell, which take their respective genres and reinvent them. And then there’s the flurry of games that will be released this year- Psychonauts (by the man behind Grim Fandango), Brute Force (tactical team shooter), Tao Feng (a new fighter by one of the co-designers of Mortal Kombat), and of course, Halo 2, looming in the distance.
Panzer Dragoon alone makes xbox a worthy competitor, most underplayed game ever. Project Gotham Racing is amazing also and rarely gets mentioned.
For a Maddox’s opinion on the X-Box check here, he’s pretty right on with what he says here.
Isn’t anyone going to point out that the Xbox is made by the Evile Empire and that we should all hope that the Xbox will go the way of the Dreamcast and that Microsoft will lose lots of money in a gleeful the villian gets his punishment in the end reverie?
Peace.
“And they dress funny, too.”