I’m not aware of that ever happening.
" Rake rus roo rour reader."
Still no response to my post #26 from xtisme.
I’m sure it would be helpful to him if I just took his word as gospel on this matter, but if he intends to make me look foolish, his efforts so far are very disappointing.
So, everything the military has done or is doing is “stupid”? I’m sure you’ll be able to back that up.
Why should he bother?
You’re doing his job for him.
Werewolves do have that well known connection to the moon…
Why don’t you try telling us why we should accept your word on this? Or by proxy Mr. Dolan’s? All you’ve done point to something and go ‘Hah!’. We’re not impressed. You aren’t even bothering to make an argument. You’re just dropping an appeal to authority and expecting all of us to follow along. Try presenting an argument, and some evidence.
Or did you learn at the JREF that bluster and posturing just don’t cut it in an actual argument?
Consarn it, why can’t I start a GD thread without a resulting Pitting? Oh well, at least it’s not of me…we might have to work on that in future.
FinnAgain was bang-on about what I was trying to ask, humanity’s reaction to a definite first contact with an extraterrestrial intelligence. I didn’t mind the hijacking on UFOs at large, and the point that some think we have in fact already made first contact.
I’ve not seen any empirical evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence (I don’t use the term ‘alien’ or extraterrestrial life since an amoeba on the far side of Europa could fall into these definitions), or empirical evidence that shows they’ve visited us. Then again, I haven’t read the book in question. But still, if such evidence exists, it would be subject to the same scholarly process we submit everything to.
Okay. This book has been out since 2000. Anybody want to point me towards a serious rebuttal of it, as opposed to the 10 a penny thoughts of people on the intrawebs? Surely someone, somewhere, has taken this author to task for his erroneous opinions?
Why would you accept ANYTHING from ANYONE who isn’t telling you what you want to hear? You believe the various ‘experts’ CT whackjobs about 9/11, after all, so there isn’t anything that anyone is going to say that is going to insert sense into your rock like head.
If you wanted to seriously (well, as seriously as a whacky government cover up CT about UFO’s could be) discuss this, you would have done what I suggested, which is to start a thread in GD, not the Pit. It takes an exceptional level of delusion to think you are going to get any sort of discussion on this topic here, of all places. But then, you are an exceptionally deluded individual, so maybe it all works out…
There is probably a LOT of things you need to be aware of, but that doesn’t mean it’s a likely outcome. As for the authors integrity, I don’t doubt (much) that he believes everything he is saying. But belief and accuracy aren’t equivalent. Folks who believe in ID have integrity and belief. They are still wrong and in many cases nutty as well, but they certainly have lots and lots of integrity.
-XT
ivan, what position of yours does that book support? At 500+ pages, I’m sure there must be a lot in there. What specifically gives it relevance to whatever point you might want to make?
Help me out here.
Why? Real scientists have other things to do with their time than disprove Crackpot Theory #947752. Plenty of such claims go unanswered because the experts just can’t be bothered.
Proper rebuttals are done through a process called peer review. Mr. Dolan has not submitted his conclusions to this process.
Generally, one has to have heard of a book before one can rebut it. What makes you think anyone outside of the UFO community has ever heard of this guy?
Well, not necessarily. In science, rebuttals are done through peer review. This cite sounds more like journalism.
This seems like to the place to relate my odd flying object story. I walked out of the mall and there was a giant green gorilla making it’s way about a hundred feet over the parking lot. That’s not a joke. I looked up and there was a giant flying green gorilla in the sky. I shit you not, a fucking giant flying green gorilla. Don’t see that everyday.
The helium filled mascot of the car dealership a few blocks away had come loose from its tethers and the wind took it .
I think it’s cute when stupid people think they’re smart. Ivan, you are cute.
Throwing around insults and boasts about how foolish you are going to make me look isn’t the ideal method of convincing me of anything, but I might be able to coax a worthwhile cite out of you.
I know I’m cute; I’ve been told that many a time. How about convincing the impartial bystander of my stupidity?
I’m sure there are many examples among my 6,000+ posts.
At this point, I would like to point out that there is virtually no serious rebuttal of “Mole-men and other denizens of Jupiter’s North polar regions” by Bernard Swainson, self-published.
Mr. Swainson’s thesis is therefore correct.