One what?
You are a conspiracy theorist. That sort of thinking is lazy and not welcome around here. Which you would already know had you actually read the thread before you posted.
You want to know how to ignore someone? There’s a little button in the upper right hand corner of your screen that looks like an x. Go ahead and click it and you’ll never have to read any more nasty messages on this board.
I’m done here.
He’s not even that - conspiracy theorists at least have theories. What we have here is a JAQ-off.
These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.
Temperature and thermal energy are related but somewhat different things.
A cubic foot of air is less than 2 ounces.
A cubic foot of steel is 490 pounds.
So how much air at 1800 degrees has to come in contact with the steel to raise the core temperature of the steel?
How long would it take? So what sense does it make to discuss this when the quantity of steel on each level is unknown? In fact the “experts” do not even raise the questions of the distribution of steel down the towers.
One of the hilarious things about this is the discussion of the South Tower coming down first. The common claim is that since the impact was lower down it had to support more weight. But since it was lower down there should have been more steel therefore more difficult to heat. Then there is the matter of the South Tower impact not going into the core and the fireball exploding out the side of the building.
The South Tower coming down first should be a red flag that something makes no sense.
Fireman got to the 78th floor and sent out a message just before the building came down.
Have you never cooked anything in your life?
Sadly, I don’t have the energy (yet) to post a recipe that calls for nano-thermite.
ROFLMBAO
People who cannot think to ask about the distribution of steel down a 1000+ foot building in Two Decades talking about LAZY THINKING.
Just a bunch of clowns with delusions of intellectual adequacy.
Because nobody cares about your idiotic “Simple Questions” coming from a simpleton. Because all relevant questions have already been answered in the Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, released in July, 2004.
Wow, a PhD in Applied Mathematics, and yet a conspiracy theorist! How is that possible? Maybe the same way that Dr. Tim Ball, a PhD in geography, is a climate change denier and conspiracy theorist. Maybe the same way that Dr. Frederick Seitz, a PhD in solid-state physics, was a climate change denier and conspiracy theorist (and also a mercenary lobbyist for the tobacco industry). Maybe the same way that Dr. Ross McKitrick (PhD in economics) and his sidekick Steve McIntyre (B.Sc in applied math and MA in economics) are disreputable lying climate change deniers and conspiracy theorists. Incidentally, McIntyre and McKitrick became infamous for trying to use applied math (specifically, principal component analysis – PCA) to try to falsely discredit one of the most important landmark science papers of the decade. They were crackpots, pure and simple.
It’s actually a very long list of lunatics with PhDs who are climate change diners and conspiracy theorists, virtually all of them with their doctorates in unrelated and irrelevant fields, just like your pal Lon Waters with an irrelevant PhD who thought it might be fun and attention-getting to be a 9/11 contrarian crank and conspiracy theorist.
As long as we have you here to provide the necessary intellectual analysis, I think we’re good.
Any plans on explaining why this is relevant . . . I mean, other than the whole ‘The accepted explanation is clearly wrong!’ of course.
Well, in the case of the South Tower, it took 56 minutes of burning before the steel weakened sufficiently for the tower to collapse. It took an hour and 42 minutes for the North Tower to collapse. Cite.
With all of the variables involved with two different airliners colliding in a nearly uncontrolled fashion with the two towers in different manners, I don’t find it surprising in the least that one happened to collapse faster than the other.
You should also read @Cervaise’s advice in Post #251 upthread.
I’m just waiting for a conspiracy theorist with a T’Pol avatar to show up.
This thread summoning another truther from the aether is a wonderful reason why we should stick to not having these threads at all. He has literally one other post, which was to bump a 24-year-old thread about… would you like to take a wild guess?
You win a free personal pan pizza from conspirahut if you guessed “some nonsense about steel beams.”
It clearly means that the engineers who designed the towers failed to think about this, which means that it was impossible for the towers to have been built in the first place. Maybe there never were any towers and they were a figment of our collective imagination. /s
That makes about as much sense as what @umbrarchist is saying.

I’m just waiting for a conspiracy theorist with a T’Pol avatar to show up.
Right, what is it with conspiracy theorists and Vulcan avatars?
Green blood can’t melt steel beams!

Maybe there never were any towers and they were a figment of our collective imagination.
I’ve heard that the Towers were holograms and 911 was all CGI . . . no, for reals heard stupid CTers say that, wasting my precious oxygen.

He has literally one other post, which was to bump a 24-year-old thread about… would you like to take a wild guess?
Apparently he has an obsession about steel beams, because he believes that he – and he alone – has hit on a deep secret about 9/11 that “they” don’t want us to know, and that no one else – including all the contributors to the 9/11 commission report – have been able to figure out. He actually explains this specific point in an earlier post – it’s because they’re all “clowns” – meaning everyone except him.
We’ve all seen this before. Here, for instance, is the late Senator James Inhofe, fondly remembered as “the dumbest Senator of them all”, displaying a snowball in the Senate chamber. Jim’s point is exactly like that of our new pal @umbrarchist, namely that Jim has divined a crucial point of science that everyone else has failed to notice (apparently they’re all “clowns”) and that Jim Inhofe alone has figured out, which is this: there is snow outside, and Jim was able to make a snowball and bring it into the Senate chamber, thereby providing solid proof that global warming could not be happening.
Conspiracy theorists offer an endless source of amusement.

I’ve heard that the Towers were holograms and 911 was all CGI
Well, I never saw them in person, I never went up in them. Prove to me they really existed! You can’t! ipso facti comprehenium!
as always, I am
Just Asking Questions
Why is this relevant?
Ever heard of Physics?
Ever heard of gravity?
An airliner hit a 110 story building at the 93rd or 94th floor. It contained about 10,000 gallons, 34 tons, of jet fuel, sometimes known as kerosene.
In less than 2 hours the resulting damage caused the upper portion of the building to fall onto the lower intact portion causing a complete collapse in less than 30 seconds.
About which the NIST wrote:
“global collapse ensued” !!!
This involves mass, gravity, acceleration, the Conservation of Momentum, strength of materials, etc.
Conspiracies are IRRELEVANT!
Skyscrapers are designed to hold themselves up and withstand the wind and the designers had to figure out how to distribute the steel and the weight of concrete which had to be supported. I would expect that the Eiffel Tower would give everyone a clue about how the 100,000 tons of steel in the North Tower had to have been distributed. But there has been a distinct lack of interest in the initial conditions of the structure.
But instead almost 23 years have gone by without lots of “experts” not discussing some obvious details. Instead lots of non-experts have spent years yelling at each other.
I find the lack of mention of the Conversation of Momentum particularly interesting.