Yes, god damnit, I'm 18 years old

Saturday I went to the local beer distributor to pick up a case of beer for a party I was going to (all partygoers were over 21) and the woman working at the beer store (gotta buy at the beer store, here in PA they can’t just put it in the supermarket where it’d make sense to have it) decided that I had to be no older than 15.

So I hand over my driver’s license and she says ‘but you still look 15’. She scans it through the little machine, which informs her that I am in fact, 25. Undeterred she insists I still look too young, so I hand her my PA license to carry concealed firearms which also has my birthdate, signature and picture on it, cannot be legally obtained until you’re 21, and is not a common enough form of ID that people tend to make fake ones. She squints at it and then asks me how I got to the beer store. I told her that I drove there, in my own car, and that if she was refusing to sell me beer just say so now and let me go pick it up somewhere else before I’m late for where I’m going.

She decides to sell me the beer (1 case of Guinness in cans, hardly the drink of choice for most 15 year olds) and then tells me that she hopes she doesn’t get in trouble for ‘selling to someone underage.’

And that doesn’t compare in the least to the time that I had a beer store employee tell me that I stole my own DL even after producing two other IDs with my photo on them. He had me sign a little form saying I wouldn’t give the beer to anyone underage and his expert handwriting analysis determined that the signature on my DL was smaller in than the one on the paper. Because in PA, when you sign the signature card, they shrink your signature and put it on your license, he refused to believe I was the person who signed the license. He threatened to confiscate my DL and nail it to the wall of shame because he considered it stolen. So I told him forget the beer, give me my license back, and I’ll be on my way. When he refused to give my DL back under any circumstances, I asked him to call the police. If he believed the ID was stolen, call the cops and have me busted. He didn’t want to do that either, and by then a very long line had formed behind me, so I pushed the beer to the side of the counter and reached for the phone. The beer store employee says ‘What are you doing?’

‘I’m calling the police to report that you have stolen my driver’s license.’ I said, and he finally handed me back my ID and informed me that I should never, ever return to his store. An admonishment that I informed him wasn’t necessary, since I had no intention of ever going back there.

Yes, it sucks royally when you comply with the request to produce ID, they verify it twice, and then they give you the third degree. In such cases I’d like to flog those clerks with a wet noodle. I understand the frustration of the OP.

I bought a DVD for my friend’s birthday on Sunday, it was rated R. I got carded. Her exact words were, “Are you 17 or older?”

I’m turning 21 in a couple of months.

I got carded at the grocery store the other day. I’m 40, bought $200 dollars worth of groceries (including diapers!) paid with an Amex gold card, and used my store discount card. I still got a double take from the cashier. Granted, I look younger than 40, and on a good day I could pass for late 20s. But Jesus Christ! I’m 40 fucking years old!

Basically, the law that holds the stores responsible for selling to minors is wrong. Minimum-wage cashiers should not be the enforcers of drinking/smoking age laws, they aren’t qualified. Sure, they should have to ask for ID. But they shouldn’t be at all responsible for somebody using fake ID. Stores are there to sell stuff, not enforce laws.

I despise laws like this that force us to police each other. LE, if you want to enforce the laws, DIY!

My DAD has been carded for cigs. For God’s sake, he was around 60 at the time, and had a straggly gray beard to boot. I guess that store carded EVERYBODY.

. . . Just wait till people start asking you if you want a Senior Citizen’s Discount . . .

I got carded at an R rated movie when I was 21. In one of my cattier moments, I told the cashier, “I could go next door and buy BEER, you know.”

I’m almost 27 and almost always get carded in any situation where carding is the norm. Since people are finally starting to think I’m not in high school anymore, I no longer find it even mildly annoying. I kind of like it. There are worse things than looking younger than your age.

The cashier in question went WAAAY overboard, but I wouldn’t ever bitch about being carded if I were you.

I once worked as a clerk in a liquor store, and asked for the ID of a woman whom, as it turned out, was 35 years old. She whipped out her license with a big grin and told me I made her day.

If you’re under 30, do you get them for free?

The same thing has happened to me. Im 29. Someone a few entries up posted that fake ID’s are easy to make. I think they USED to be easy to make. In my state, licenses have holograms on the front as well as your info encoded on the magnetic strip on the back. I dont think most 17 year olds have invested in that type of equipment just so they can go get a sic pack or some smokes. Stores are required to ask for ID. If the ID has a hologram, and works in the swipe machine then they should shut the fuck up.

I was carded when I orderd a non-alcoholic piña colada at Uno’s once. The watiress must’ve been a bit confused.

As a furriner I learned to carry my passport with me whenever I went to a bar or to buy smokes or grog in the US. Of course nobody knew what an Australian passport was supposed to look like so there was suspicion it was fake even though nobody could possibly think I was under 21. I found a couple of rounds of G’day mate, that’s not a knife, this is a knife never failed.

Try it next time :wink:

As an American, should I try this when I go to Australia?

Heh. I grew up in Michigan too, and I was 18 (legal drinker for four months) when they raised the drinking age back to 21–they did not grandfather us. I still remember the feeling of burning injustice I had at this and what it taught me about the arbitrariness of many laws.

Actually, if you want to be treated nicely try something that makes you sound Canadian. We’d do almost anything for Canadians, we are yet to forgive seppos for the behaviour of your troops here in WWII and then there are the not so little matters of McDonalds, Pizza hut and The Brady Bunch.

Try saying aboot, eh, that’ll work.

Yeah, except not in the states. I’m 27 and last year was presenting my MSc results at an academic conference, yet the dude at the bar gave us the spanish inquisition as my ID (B.C. Drivers license, Canadian citizenship card, etc.) weren’t in his state-sponsored book of accepted ID. Which only covered id from that state.

It is the only time in my life I have deliberately not tipped a waiter, and boy did that fluster him :slight_smile:

What if I’m 3 weeks shy of 21 and get hassled just for having ID? “No way you’re old enough to have ID”. That is when it’s fun.

24, I seem to get carded in a very haphazard manner. Sometimes I’ll get carded buying tickets to an R rated movie, bottle of wine tossed in with the grocceries ('99 Rosemont Merlot, $8 at Kroger, not a bad find) I get carded, and lectured for still using my Alaska DL for ID. I get the same kind of scrutiny at convience stores when buying booze too.

On the other hand about half the time I order a drink in a restaurantt they don’t bother. Liqour stores pretty much always card everyone as do bars so that’s not such a big deal, that and the clerks/bouncers rarely give me grief over looking too young or using out of state ID.

Must just be a matter of professionalism and good customer service.

Holy crap.

I had no idea they had machines that would electronically read the barcodes on yer licenses and verify your age. At a retail store, nonetheless.

The wonders of modern technology. Behold, a new age is upon us. . .

Tripler
No, really, I’d never even heard about this thing. Where are they?

Certainly not here. It looks like a typewriter made ours.

I, thankfully, have never run into this problem. I do get carded (I’m 20 in Alberta where legal age is 18) which doesn’t bother me. The thing is when I go to buy smokes… it’s always the same people who card me! I see these people semi-often whenever I stop in to buy smokes and they card me everytime.

And yet one lady who I’ve gone to, she remembers me from months back (I don’t go to her often just because I’m not in the area that often) and doesn’t card me anymore. Ah well. I always grin and produce my id willingly. Which reminds me I need to get a new one… one without the little bar saying ‘under 18 until Nov 2001’