I got 2 vaccines on Friday, my first shingles and a flu shot. My arm still hurts and it’s red. I’m just doing Advil now and then. In hindsight, I’m thinking maybe I wasn’t being very smart getting them both in the same arm.
I had a very swollen arm from the shingles shot. It was very uncomfortable for several days. It wasn’t fun, but it’s better than getting shingles. You do have to get it twice, but then it’s over. I don’t think you ever have to get another shot.
I’ve gotten my flu and covid shots, so I’m set for the winter. I hope my immune system is working well! I’ve already had covid this year (it didn’t test positive, but I’m sure it was covid anyway). I think that’s enough for one year.
Not even in the military? I’d deploy (as a DoD ammo guy) and get multiple shots
every time. Stuff for things I’d never heard off, more for shots I’d already gotten at home station ("Oh, they didn’t give you enough gamma goblins ), restart anthrax (thankfully stopped that crap), stabbed yet again for smallpox even though I’d patiently explain I’ve never shown any reaction - again.
tldr, get one in each arm so if you have a reaction, you can identify which.
Or just one at a time if you do react.
…not a doc; not your doc; closed course, professional driver…
The first time i did it, i was in a vaccine study. And i showed up for my regular blood draw, and there was gossip about doing flu and covid vaccines at the same time. So i asked the researchers. Every one of them (three on the room) planned to do flu and covid together, because it was more convenient.
I figured if it was good enough for doctors who literally study vaccines, it was good enough for me.
I get them in the same arm. Then i know i can sleep on the other arm.
In the last nine months, I’ve gotten three HPV shots, two MMR shots, two Hepatitis B shots, the latest Covid shot (Moderna), and the RSV shot.
The only one that I had any real reaction to was the Covid shot, and that consisted of a sore arm for about two days. The RSV shot also gave me a sore arm, but for less than a day.
I had no noticeable reaction whatsoever to any of the other vaccines.
I have read that modern-day people who have lived and worked in measles-endemic areas described those patients as being like AIDS patients for some months after their recovery. That’s not something to mess around with.
Implied but not mentioned, hopefully the provider of your shots or combinations thereof are doing due diligence in checking for possible issues with the scheduled shot(s) as well as your health and current meds. As always, it’s a good idea to actually read all those fact sheets and make sure you filled out all the information appropriately.
Not that it’s a given some tired tech is checking everything correctly, and those fact sheets are of course very abbreviated, but it is still a good idea.
If by “transient” you mean “meh, temporary, no biggie” than I submit that you are wrong.
The scientific consensus is that major immune memory loss due to measles infection commonly lasts up to 2-3 years, which is a long time for kids to be vulnerable against pathogens they previously had the ability to fight.
Nice.
Here’s a “popularization” from one of those fear-mongers at the American Society for Microbiology. /s
There are expert recommendations for a new round of vaccinations after measles infection, to protect children for however long it takes to re-establish protective immunity.
I await documentation of your claim that an “immune reset” due to measles is “a good thing long term”, as well as evidence for the concept that vaccination causes anything remotely equivalent to the immune system damage resulting from measles infection.
I think both are true. I think it disables the immune system for a short period of time (transient) but also destroys immune memory permanently (amnesia). And that amnesia means that after recovering from measles, you can be as vulnerable to infection as a newborn, only without the benefit of your mother’s antibodies, and without the benefit of a newborn’s incredibly effective innate immune activity, because by the time you are a few years old you normally have developed antibodies for all the common stuff (adaptive immunity), and don’t (normally) need awesome innate immunity.
Which is to say, a significant fraction of people who recover from measles die of random other shit because of that “immune reset”.
So, yeah, I’ve now heard it suggested that that might be good for you, but speaking as an actuary, i tend to think that anything that significantly increases your force of mortality is bad for you.
Research on this subject doesn’t suggest there are two processes occurring. What measles does is wipe out “memory” lymphocytes specific for a variety of pathogens, leaving behind only ones that recognize measles virus.
Using the word “transient” for an immune deficiency that frequently lasts 2-3 years or more minimizes the seriousness of the problem.
Still waiting to see evidence that such a “reset” is in any way beneficial, or that vaccination does anything comparable.
Using the word “transient” for a permanent destruction of immune history is also misleading. Yes, you can rebuild your immunities. But you’ve lost something valuable and important to your health.