I was going to say something about this as well but given that most of the posters in this thread can’t see anything other than what they consider right I decided not to bother. I don’t know anything about YogSosoth other than he lives with his parents and plays a video game, but to me neither of those indicate he isn’t an adult. Shoot, both houses on either side of us have multiple generations living in them. I don’t know if it’s part of the Mexican culture or if it’s because it’s hard to be able to afford a house these days, and I don’t care. I consider the folks in the house to the east to all be mature adults, and the ones in the house to west to be mostly immature based on the way they act, not on their living arrangements.
Apparently, neither YogSosoth nor his sister have rushed into bad marriages, produced kids they aren’t caring for or run up huge debt they cannot pay off. Both are employed. Heck of a lot more mature than many people living in places other than their parents’ homes.
We know that the sister went to and graduated from nursing school, and that both of them are gainfully employed. We don’t know whether either had the opportunity to make any bad choices, but I’d be surprised if they got to their ages without such opportunities. So, apparently the only thing you view as mature is moving out of one’s parents house. Odd.
I don’t think people are wrong to see a possible connection between his living arrangements and the quality and quantity of immaturity he’s displayed in this thread. Go back and reread it. Comes across like an apathetic snarly 15 yr old! He’s over 30 and still rationalizing and justifying his crap like a kid, striking out at anyone, who doesn’t see things his way, in the most immature ways. He thinks Wow is a responsibility for goodness sake.
If you can’t see it, so be it. But don’t take to task those who clearly can.
I just don’t see it. I honestly don’t agree with you guys on the dog thing either - it’s not him who’s getting a dog, it’s his sister; he can’t control her, like it or not she’s an adult, and IMO he’s doing quite a bit of research towards a dog that’s not even going to be his!
But that’s not my point. My point is it’s a clearly different culture, and not one where’s he’s doing anything wrong (it’s not like they’re going to make a stir-fry of the dog for heaven’s sake) and everyone is judging him by the metric of this culture.
Would I date or marry a man who still lived at home at 32? Never.
Would I be friends with one? Absolutely.
Wait…aren’t you also a WoW freak, one who rarely leaves the house except for work, one who ruined a carpet because you spent so much time in your computer chair?
I’m going to try and appeal to the non-crazy side of you for a minute. In the other topic, I feel I was very reasonable, but the threadshitting started early. As early as post #5, we had miss elizabeth come in and ask that we shouldn’t get a dog. I explained to her that it wasn’t that easy, that it wasn’t my choice, and that I had been successful for years at delaying it, I thought it was going to happen for sure this time and I simply wanted to be prepared. Now you read the OP and my posts and tell me exactly where I started getting immature and I’ll give you a cookie
After that, more people came in who didn’t read or understand my OP, asking why I, not my sister, but why I am getting a dog. Post #9, then post #10 repeats that I shouldn’t get a dog, and that posts also begins the derailment that becomes known as “Yog Sosoth doesn’t give one iota of crap about the dog and would rather it suffer” meme, repeated in post #13, and post #25 (suggesting that my dog will need to be rescued).
Post #11 may be a joke, but it reinforces the continuing theme of people ignoring my OP and not suggesting ideas for me to deal with the dog but rather rejecting the premise and just telling us not to get one. Reinforced by post #12, post #14, post #16, post #17, post #21, post #22, post #23, post #24, post #25, and let’s just say there’s a lot more. Some people managed to combine their ignorance of the premise with actual, genuine advice, so I don’t begrudge them. But I responded to basically every one of those. Yes, I joked in a few, like I’d rather gold farm than attend to a starving animal, but I was hoping people would see those as what they were: attempts to defuse the increasingly escalating tension with some bad jokes
And of course, the situation just gets worse and worse from there. I think I rather handled it well. For every person who said the dog would be in a bad situation, I agreed with them but reminded them that I don’t have the final say in the matter. And even while being attacked as a dog abuser, I still agreed, like in post #44 when I found out about how obedience schools worked, I was going to use that as an issue to convince her not to get one, and in post #54 I agreed to raise the forgotten issue of grooming and nail clipping and fostering an animal.
But then, when people realized they couldn’t convince me not to get a dog (because hey, I’m not the one getting it!), they started with the personal attacks. Now, elbows, you don’t like me and I can’t lick you (because no human can lick their elbows), so since you’re so smart, tell me how you would deal with the personal insults like in post #62, or when people start with wishing death on me and my family as in post #97, seconded by post #100, again in post #101 and post #103.
So tell me again, I’m the immature one? Then you waltz in here, giant chip on your shoulder, no dog related relevant talk at all, and start condemning me for living at home, knowing only that I’m and adult and I like video games, then pretend like I’m the one who’s in the wrong? You can all take your “advice” and shove up sideways up your asses. I have displayed a remarkable amount of tolerance for the bullshit being thrown my way that I deserve a fucking medal. I admit trolling, but that’s the least you deserve. Its totally appropriate to troll given that I’m dealing with a bunch of fucktards. If you don’t like it, stop posting, but I’m going to be here knocking back each of your insults because I know how much it bugs you. Think that’s immature? Why don’t you go get mauled to death by a dog then? That’s much better
BTW I’m an adult and I love video games, and I play almost every day. It’s got nothing to do with whether I can hold down a job or be responsible or not. I know I don’t want anything to do with a dog, so I don’t have one, but if my SO really really wanted one (the only person I live with) we’d find some way to make accomodations. I wouldn’t just be like “no way no how”.
There are ways to skirt the rules without getting a warning. Saying “I hope you get a mean dog that will eat you” is within the rules, for good reason, but that doesn’t still mean its not a pissy way to deal with your problems.
Glad to see my fan club hasn’t died off yet! Cute strawman, really. I never said playing video games was indicative of immaturity. Trolling like a 13 year old (then admitting to it like an idiot, even though it’s against the rules) *is. *And yes, I do rarely leave the house but for work. But how does that negate my statement? Social anxiety may be correlated with immaturity, but they aren’t the same condition. You’ll notice I haven’t been living with my parents for well over 3 years now.
And I’ve gone over this again and again: my former landlord was an abusive, sociopathic bitch who **lied **in an attempt to withhold my entire deposit without accounting for deductions. She said I caused carpet damages when it was wear and tear. She **lied **about an odor on the mattress I slept on (she never attempted to replace it or send me an itemized list of costs) as an excuse to keep the entire deposit. She didn’t think I would fight, she didn’t think I would know the law. And in the end, after I threatened legal action, she mailed back my full deposit. I win, yay.
Really? Everyone in the thread ‘misinterpreted your meaning’, your insults ‘were joking’, can you seriously, at 30+ years not hear how immature these rationalizations comes across?
Then there’s this, ‘they started with the personal attacks’.
Says the manboy who said:
I did not ‘attack’ you for living at home. I commented on how an extended teenagehood often leads to the kind of immaturity you were displaying so proudly. (Choosing to see every contrary position as an attack, is commonly seen in 13yr olds, not mature adults.)
Your response: "something you should know a lot about having been forcefully and then willingly molested by your daddy over and over again’. Such an over the top response, to complete conjecture, from a stranger on the internet, may be a sign that, well, the truth kind of hurts.
And then, just for good measure, you boast about purposely trolling a few times.
When I was a child it was still fairly normal in the US for unmarried children to live with their parents and it’s not like I’m 100 years old. What is it with Americans and their obsession with spending as much time as possible away from the people we’re supposed to love the most. Every child must have thier own bedroom with their own TV and computer so we never see them. Living room and family room so we don’t have to watch the same TV shows. Move when you’re 18, right away . . . . I think we would be better off in mutligenerational households.
Back to the dog.
He’s put way more thought into this dog thing than most dog owners I know. This dog will live a mostly outdoor life with people home most of every day. His dad likes to putter around in the yard and his mom would probably get used to and eventually like the dog. He and his sister will play with the dog and walk it maybe every couple of days. There are dogs who would love this life. Most dogs I know spend all day in a kennel then their owners ignore them after work because they’re too busy with other things. It’s hardly neglect.
Well, I can’t say as how I agree with this, either. I think sometimes it’s better for the parent-child relationship for the child to move out. My mother and I did not get along at all, and now that I am in my thirties I see what a lot of the causes are, but you bet your ass I didn’t understand it when I was eighteen! And just because we are “supposed to love” anybody doesn’t mean we actually do. Sometimes even parents don’t deserve love just for taking care of a kid.
But then, my situation gets complicated, tho by no means unique.
Yes, of course. It is not impossible that most people can be wrong and attacking the person who is right.
You’ll notice that all of those started AFTER I was attacked. So you’re all fair game now. Don’t like it? Maybe you shouldn’t have been insulting in the first place. Now you’re just mad cause you’re getting shit back after I started to defend myself. Its not a hard concept to understand, really. If you started hugging and kissing me, I’d probably do the same back
How easily you forget. Let me remind you of your attacks. Referring to my situation as juvenile “mommy and daddy” issues is your way of an intellectual discussion, I guess, and so was the assertion of delusion. I would hate to see how people actually debate in your world, if name calling and exaggerated sense of superiority based on one sole issue is not a personal attack. Your comment was also a pointless non-sequitor, more telling of your personal demons than mine that you decide to drag that into any topic you’re part of
As I recall, my response to your pointless rant was measured and reasonable, not an immediate jump into the level of frenzy you like to mislead others into thinking. It was only after you brought more bizarre accusations into the fray that I hinted, just hinted, that you might have more underlying trauma that makes you such an obsessive one-issue poster. And still after that it was 2 more pointless posts by you that I finally reared the ugly molestation joke, which by the way, I even admitted I felt bad about for a while. The only person in this discussion that is deluded is you, for refusing to admit to possible parental issues that cloud your judgement constantly, that relegate you to bringing up your pet peeve in topics that don’t call for it, that yells at innocent super mature adults like me for something that you suffer from
But then, my admitted goal in this thread is to keep you here as long as possible, so who’s the adult now? Neener neener!
The mods will disagree with me of course, but if someone’s attacking me, I’m going to attack back. It doesn’t help the injured to sit back idly, crying to the mods, and hope they stick up for him. I’ll fight my own battles. Just like you will bring up pointless BS into topics that don’t call for it.
But in all seriousness, I really think you should apologize. Not everyone has gone through the childhood you have, so you don’t need to keep attacking people to prove you’re strong. You lived through it, and that’s good enough. You should be proud of putting yourself up instead of trying to tear others down. Despite what I’ve said, I don’t hate you. I think you just can’t control your emotions right now and is letting that get the best of you. If you wanna talk, just PM me
On this board, fighting back with logical and truthful answers is much more effective than trolling like a mouthbreather, then admitting it like a retard.
Dude, that’s what I’ve been saying! Why don’t people get that?
If you actually had logical and truthful responses, maybe I’d have something to work with. Right now its like you’re asking me to sculpt a statue of David with a pile of shit.
Let’s get over that shall we? What kind of dog do you think I should get? (and really, if you seriously want to add something to the discussion, you’ll answer that question and only that question)
The mature thing to do is not sink to the level of your attackers. Yes, it’s a trap I’ve fallen into myself and the natural thing is to want to lash out at someone who’s pissing you off, but all shit slinging does is get you covered in shit. It might feel good at the time but it doesn’t accomplish anything.
