I realize the incongruity of attempting to make a serious point in this thread, but I have to say that I see this sort of idea offered all the time, and it irritates me to no end. If a word can be redefined by everyone to mean whatever they want it to mean, then the word is literally meaningless. And since the word is meaningless, the title of this thread now has no more meaning than if it were “You A Fdsnal?”
It’s such a wishy-washy way of avoiding responsibility. It’s basically saying “I don’t want to be the one to have to take a stand, because then I’ll have to defend it. So you do it for me, and I’ll just go along with it.” Like I say, I see this attitude a lot, and I don’t like it. Words have meanings. Accept it and defend it.
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master that’s all.”
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. “They’ve a temper, some of them—particularly verbs, they’re the proudest—adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs—however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That’s what I say!”
I know what I mean when I say I am “gifted” in a certain area, but what do you mean when you capitalize the word? Are you defining it as something distinct from the common use of the word and if so, in what way?
I read your posts and think, “Is T_R_G trying to set us up to sell us something?”
Bi-Polar Disorder and I have a more-than-nodding acquaintance and in trying to understand this disorder, I’ve heard and read about “Giftedness” and “Differently Inspired” and similar terms and I don’t buy the concept. It is entirely possible for someone with a mental illness to manage their condition through pharmacology and still be able to express their creativity in a satisfying way.
The ability to actually finish an artistic work, as opposed to starting a project in manic glory, only to destroy it, half-finished, in depressed disillusionment, more than compensates the artist for any possible loss of anticipatory (over)eagerness and rapid flight of ideas.
I is a gifted too. It good we all come together, make talk about tough life gifted hases. The ungifted, they no know the many pains of genius. When I a little boy, man who say he brain Dr make me wear helmet, my brain so gifted. He say many things, me special, me need safe enviroment for my gifted, so I not acidently eat paint again. The cat was my friend, but he went to happy cat land after he sleep and not wake up. Cheese is gifted with good eating taste.
I tend to assume that genuinely smart people don’t tend to get enthusiastic about being “gifted” because they have discovered that intelligence is much more limited in real world utility than most people seem to expect.
Maybe some day I’ll be smart enough to test my theory
When I said that there’s more where that came from, and I can’t edit the initial post, here are a couple more Characteristics of Giftedness
Sensitivity
Remembering insults forever
Doing three things at once
Doing the outwardly foolish thing, taking up lost causes
Psychic
Interest in life and death
Driven to comprehend, complexity of understanding
Wanting to know the reasons and origins of things
Asks, “What is my purpose?”
Naive
Recognition of falsity, no “trophy friends”
Complexifying solutions
Finding non-conventional solutions, originality
Not motivated by extrinsic awards, discomfort with praise
Passionate
Undeterred by conventional expectations
Self taught, non-sequential learning
Need for precision
Recognition of unfairness, strong sense of justice
Making intuitive leaps, making logical projections
Noticing what no one else does
Manipulation and bargaining
Make and follow their own plans, less teachable
Devise practical experiments to see “What if?”
Saying, “Actually”
Large vocabulary, love of big words
Delayed in toilet training, difficulty in separating from mom
Early sense of responsibility
Not wanting to grow up and face the world
Less physical risk-taking
Zipping through Piagetian stages
Friends of both genders, later sexual interests
Abstract thinkers before having the emotional ability to handle it
Symbolic thinkers
Can animate their fears, powerful emotional imagination
You can either take my word for it, or check Facebook
Not to mention that this list was PhD compiled, but I have a feeling that someone would like a source for this information, because Google searching for it was too much work.
Your Facebook page is your cite? Really?
If you don’t start responding directly to queries posted in this thread, I will shut it down. No more cut-and-paste lists.
Ha, this is a great thread, as Intellectually Gifted individuals can attest to the number of sarcastic comments about the topic. As if we haven’t heard these before.
I take the f bomb sarcastically, but psychologically this is a misunderstanding of Giftedness, and a classic factor in the misdiagnosis of Gifted individuals.
And Psychologists and/or therapists aren’t the be all end all, but second & third opinions are better indications.
To be fair, I already defined the context of the word in this post, Gifted as in Intellectually Gifted.
OK. Well for one, Intellectually Gifted Individuals are able to entertain that very idea without having to accept it.
Funny enough, the word “Gifted” is one of those words redefined by everyone else to mean whatever they want it to mean, https://twitter.com/#!/search/Gifted
I’m avoiding responsibility because I don’t want to be seen as the authoritative figure in this discussion. But if it’s put on me straight up like that, then I’ll gladly play that game.
Well, Ican tell if you’re Gifted, ahem Intellectually Gifted, based on my background and experience in the niche field of Intellectual Giftedness. But, if not me, “Who decides whether or not people are gifted?” Psychologists, therapists, educators, authors. They’re not the be all end all, but they have concepts of what Intellectual Giftedness is.
But by all means, free to start a thread titled You A Fdsnal?
I think it may just be semantics in my typing, but in your context:
“gifted in baseball, gifted in speech, gifted in sales” versus
“Gifted is being good at everything”. Basically, capitalized Gifted refers to the term Intellectually Gifted as a field of Human Intelligence.
Did you really mean “sell” or “tell”? Sell as a product / spam, or sell as in an idea? I’m just trying to understand why the post was deleted/flagged in the first place, but selling an idea may be the reasoning I guess.
Well, just to let you know, Bi-Polar & Giftedness are somewhat common, and if one is both Bi-Polar & Intellectually Gifted, the term would be Twice Exceptional. And in other cases, Bi-Polar may be a misdiagnosis of Intellectual Giftedness.
I’d say that’s part stereotype and part stigma. Fortunately, I now have a grasp of what the both the stereotype and stigma part means, which is why I’m “enthusiastic about being “Gifted””
Oh, I’ve known way too many people like that. There’s a real pattern to it. Here we go again, complete with the heavy rationalization about how the lack of any actual achievement, blathering loghorrea, grandiosity unbacked by any objective standard, complete lack of literacy, and possession of objectively-aberrant behavior traits are the VERY PROOF of the extreme giftedness.
You know, more than occasionally the mods around here shut down threads I find interesting just on grounds that they’re played out. Then they let something like this abortion of a thread linger on for days. I don’t get it either.
There, that citation good enough? Because it isn’t my site, and there are dozens more where that came from.
Or as I said, one could just Google it and find links that state that this isn’t coming out of my ass. Or maybe I should contact Betty Maxwell, Ph.D. to bless this thread?
