But has any mental health professional attested to actual mental problems in this case? That could be the answer, but it also just be a pissy little girl whose time in the spotlight is over and now doesn’t like the resulting shitty reality.
Who’s this “Britney”? A friend of somebody?
The incident clearly occurred. Whether there were one, ten, or twenty police cars does not seem to drive anything.
I don’t have cable, so I don’t know. I’d imagine, though, that one of the standard news agencies has brought on some sort of shrink to talk about the situation.
In the past few weeks, several magazines and even the Today Show brought on doctors to talk about the symptoms she’s exhibiting. Some say she’s got PPD, others say she seems to be bipolar.
Your argument is with whoever accused you of making it up. I referred to embellishment, and relying on speculation, the latter of which you admit to outright in your OP.
You don’t say.
How about a hundred? A thousand? A squadron of F-16’s? Would it still be the same incident? Why let facts get in the way of a perfectly good rant? Why mention it at all if it is unimportant, unless one’s sense of outrage needed a boost?
While I don’t deny relying on speculation (frankly, even the standard news outlets are doing that at this point), I didn’t embellish anything. Saying I embellished something is calling me a liar, as I see it- maybe I’m wrong in that.
I saw what I saw with my own two eyes, you can certainly choose not to believe it, but that’s your call. The paparazzi agency that was following the whole thing- the same one standard news agencies get their celebrity stories from- backs up my story. So, while what actually happened- why they were called, what happened at the hospital- is speculation, I know I saw tons of police cars, three ambulances, and two of the supposed three helicopters.
Yes, substantially, it would still be the same incident. Has-been rockstar has a breakdown. Lots of pomp. Film at all.
The OP says the transfer was to be at 7, instead of 8, as reported in the mainstream press. She claims pictures show Britney “further restrained” in the ambulance, while other pictures also show her laughing, and there are accounts of her smoking while in the ambulance. She makes a big deal out of the kids being “rushed to the hospital”, while neglecting to mention that under CA law they *had *to be transported to a hospital to be checked out. And sums it up by citing “speculation.” It just seems to me that for all we know, it was just Britney having a hissy fit, and there is no need to guild the lily here.
I should not have opened this thread.
I do not care about Britney Spears, I am not interested in Britney Spears and will avoid this thread and others like it.
I have a life of my own, full of problems and joys and cannot for the life of me understand why so many people bother with this kind of “news”.
I want news that tells me something about the world I live in.
Hm.
I’m sorry about the time thing. I had heard it was 7-730, but you are right, it was 8. You are, of course, completely right. The entire point of my OP falls because I got the time line 30 minutes off (the point being, of course, that there is a tremendous double standard here, not whether or not Britney is nuts).
And yes, there are pictures of her laughing- there are also pictures of her in hysterics. Crying. Laughing. Obviously, the girl was having some sort of breakdown- healthy folks don’t go from screaming and crying to smiling in 2 minutes.
Oh, and here is a picture where you can see the restraints on her. I do wonder how she was smoking in the back of an ambulance if she was tied down (more importantly, she was wheeled out of her house on a gurney, tied down- who brought the ciggs into the ambulance and who let her smoke them?)- it’s funny though, that you blame me of utilizing speculation, when you say things like that.
I also didn’t know that by CA law the children HAD to be taken to the hospital. If that is the case, why was one driven in a regular civilian car, while the other was taken in an ambulance? Obviously, there was some issue with her younger son, otherwise he would have been transported in the same manner as her older son, yes?
Unfortunately, this tells you quite a bit about it.
Yeah, I think it pays more respect to people who actually experience mental illness to require some evidence that this latest incident is something more than self-indulgence by a rich celebrity who appears to be a terribly crappy parent and thinks that no rules apply to her.
Further respecting the seriousness of mental illness, such evidence should be something more than a talking head “expert” who has never examined or treated the individual, or the opinions of message board posters who view celebrity gossip media.
It’s not hard to imagine lots of cop cars showing up - indeed, a smart police force would send them just to control the paparazzi, which also showed up in droves.
As to the OP, I think it might just be enough to determine how much you’re going to participate in the circus, and what your attitude toward Spears will be. Even if she is unbalanced now, prior to this she demonstrated appalling judgment in many areas of her life, without much indication of an underlying mental illness driving these choices. Were the comments many of us made then off-limits? When is she just crazy enough to escape criticism?
Craig Ferguson believes that she is more to be pitied than to be scorned, and in that I probably agree. But that doesn’t make me or others necessarily wrong for saying whatever we said in the past.
You know, I’m still having trouble sympathizing with Britney. Regardless of whether she had done drugs immediately before this incident or not (and I believe reports that she hadn’t) her problems seem to stem from the fact that she’s clearly an addict. She may have become one because of an underlying mental problem, although I don’t remember any negative stories about her mental stability before she started partying all over the place, so maybe not.
The point is, people who are addicts will often go to extremes for attention and to get people to feel sorry for them, so they can manipulate those people. I’ve been there. My ex-fiance was addicted to coke; when I told him I was leaving, he grabbed a large knife and called his mother to tell her how I was leaving and how he was going to kill himself. He wasn’t going to, but he was crying and waving a big knife around–it was clear he was to trying to manipulate me into staying. He was not high at the time. Until it’s proven to me otherwise, Britney’s breakdown is just the manipulations of an addict, and I have no sympathy for her, but oodles for her poor kids.
Oh, and if my ex had been a celebrity, rather than just an asshole corrections officer, I bet there would have been lots of police presence too. The number of police officers doesn’t necessarily have to do with the seriousness of the situation, but could also be just because of the people involved.
And yeah, what Mr. Moto said.
I am tempted to be vulgar here. Again with the strawman. I never said anything like that, so get off your high horse.
Cool. I never said she wasn’t restrained, only suggested that you were putting the worst possible spin on things, and wondered why.
Like what? I said that there were accounts. There were, in the news article in the other thread.
*The children are in Federline’s custody, following a standard medical evaluation.
According to Castro, there is a law in California stating that if there is an incident at a home involving children, they are required to go to a hospital and get checked for physical and mental issues.
The children were cleared of both after a short stay in the hospital. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22497895/*
Just as a wandering by member of the peanut gallery, your laser-like focus on the perfect truthiness of extraneous details, while ignoring the thrust of the thread, is making you sound like a priggish butt. FWIW.
Celebrities aren’t real people. They exist for our entertainment and at our whims. The enjoyment we get out of snarking about Britney is more important than whatever is actually medically wrong with her.
I really don’t care what’s wrong with her, actually. It’s like watching a TV drama, except we get the satisfaction of knowing that it’s not being performed by actors.
Perhaps you could be bothered to read a little more closely? I’ll wait.