Again, I am not really addressing Papsett’s situation per se, I am addressing the typical idiotic pile on that happens in the Pit. As for emotional manipulation, you would have to be subject to it to see it.
The furbaby reference is for those who rush to defend animals that don’t need it, or in this case probably don’t since I don’t believe that Papsett is actually beating her pets.
Alright, so you’ve got me interested. If Papsett is having trouble with her animals acting out, how would you suggest she fix it?
Sorry about that Idle Thoughts I forgot that curlcoat is a she so thought you were referencing me. Brain fart. I apologize.
Hmmm, time to work on that self-centeredness again I see 
Coming from the rudest, most judgmental, and most ignorant person in this thread - possibly on this whole board - this is the height of irony.
My impression from the one or two posts I read in the other thread is not so much that her animals are acting out, but that she was reacting to them in a more negative manner than she usually would because of some outside stress. A stress that I think no longer exists? I haven’t looked at that thread since this one started - is there any other information there?
Honey, I only mirror what you show. You came into this thread with immediate animosity - do you really think I should bother being nice to you? As for ignorant, on this subject you will never be able to attain my level of knowledge, and I continue to learn. You - not so much. Unless you lose the attitude.
Just such a pity that your ongoing self-education and keenness to learn don’t extend to other topics I guess.
Oh well.
Automatically agreeing with random opinions thrown at me by strangers on the internet is not how I define “education”.
Anyone else reading “walking the dog” as a polite reference to masturbation? Cause that makes the thread more entertaining.
No, she’s not. She’s just genuinely that fucking retarded and wilfully ignorant. Which, IMO, is much scarier.
What?! That’s perverse. Everyone knows elephants are for *depositing *kittens *in *trees.
Great, now I’m getting flashbacks to Dawson Leery’s masturbation euphemisms.
Frankly I’m amazed she even has the skills to *read *these threads. Maybe her sugar daddy helps her sound out the big words.
Nah, he probably just pays someone to read to her. He has a card that’s blue, you know. Er, blue and stolen from an old job of his.
Every dog deserves one walk a day and every owner will benefit from providing it.
Poll:How often do you walk your dog?
Ball’s in your court Curlcoat.
Go get the ball! Bring it back to me! Good girl!
That is an insult to literal bitches everywhere.
*Side note: **curlcoat *has a history of ignoring any evidence that doesn’t agree with her worldview. You can give her 5 million fully cited studies in prestigious peer-reviewed journals, and if their conclusion clashes with her Weltanschauung, she’ll reject them all.
Yeah, but ya gotta admit that can be pretty painful, especially if it’s just been waxed.
takes out small notebook, licks pencil tip, scribbles “waxing the weltanschauung” under “euphemisms for masturbation,” nods approvingly
Wow, no wonder you guys have such odd ideas. The only quibble I have is these articles don’t appear to be written by trainers, but yeah, you did find articles that tell you these weird things.
This one is uncredited and poorly, vaguely written. I was struck by this in particular - “You also need to toilet train your dog so that you will have less clean up to do.” Um, what? The only way you’d have less clean up would be to teach the dog to use the toilet.
“Walking the dog regularly is also important. Never leave the dog alone for long periods of time, this may create destructive behaviour in the dog.” The spelling of behavior made me curious and I found in the coding that this article is probably written for readers in the UK. Isn’t it true that folks over there are less like to have decent sized yards? I hear that complaint from friends who live over there, but it may just be them. Anyway, if the impression that I get of tiny yards is true, it probably is that most owners in the UK have to walk their dogs because otherwise the dog would be digging up the garden and pooping in the roses.
This one appears to be taking the training philosophy of Cesar Milan and just using the pieces that whoever Sharon Maguire is likes. It doesn’t hold together logically in that not all dogs that lead on a walk are attempting to be alpha, so not all dogs would be building up “mental anguish” due to the “big responsibility to be leading the pack”. Particularly since there isn’t any mental anguish inherent in leading a pack, unless the leadership is threatened, which it wouldn’t be if the owner is just walking along behind the dog. I imagine the dog would end up with more mental stress from being required to heel all the way thru the walk, without being allowed to just be a dog.
Also, this part - "Remember, it only takes one alpha dog to set off any other dogs around. - is flat wrong. Not all dogs are “alpha”, so one such dog is not going to set off any other dogs, and it is most likely to set off other dogs if it is acting up, not just pulling on lead. Heck, if nothing else, if all other dogs are set off by seeing a dog pull on lead, we’d be having mass fights at every dog show held!
Her she is contradicting herself, or she is using the word “walk” to mean “take your dog out for exercise”. The context of that sentence is “All dogs, regardless of size or breed, need to be taken on daily walks, jogs, runs, bike rides, rollerblading, any means you have to get your dog moving. Taking your dog for a walk is an important ritual in keeping your dog mentally stable. A dog, as an animal, is a walker/traveler by instinct. Packs of dogs get up in the morning and walk. Simply having a large back yard or taking your dog to the dog park is not going to satisfy this instinct in your dog.” I don’t agree that the dog necessarily needs to go out every day since not all dogs are the same, and I definitely don’t agree that packs of dogs “get up in the morning a walk” without a goal, such as looking for food. But yes, dogs do need to get out of the house/yard fairly regularly - it just doesn’t have to be a walk.
Nobody has said that a dog should be isolated in the backyard.
Uh, you are quoting some random person on an internet message board?
Well aside from the fact that I think any government has it’s head up it’s ass, I’m not sure how anyone figures out what “every” dog “deserves”, not to mention that the discussion was whether a dog needs a walk.
I’m not sure why you included this as it shows that there is a wide variety of opinions on whether a dog needs to be walked, and it appears to hinge on whether or not the dog is doing anything else. Which is what I’ve been saying more or less all along…
I’ll look more closely at your reply curlcoat, but I searched through sites like the American Kennel Club and national breeding groups and all of them were completely silent on the issue of dog walking, which is why I didn’t include them.
I chose the links that I did based upon a Google search of topics like “dog walking” or “walking a dog versus a yard” or the like. Am I claiming these to be absolutely authoritative?
Heck no.
What I am saying is that 1) every single site I saw -every single one- said that dog walking is not only beneficial but mandatory for owning dogs.
2) If you have a problem with my cites, you’re welcome to show me what you claim to be an authority you trust that backs your assertions.
Curlcoat has a point, for if you feed a young dog milk and do not walk it, it will be much more tender.
(Ignore the images and pictures and stuff): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQrKXTgLo94
No further comment needed.