You Have to Leave Your Country--Which of your Neighbor Nations Would you Choose?

Okay, but** Shamozzle’s** gonna be closing the door soon. :slight_smile:

US citizen. If you want to be strict on the OP I would have to say Canada; been through Mexico and just didn’t like it very much. But if I could stretch things a little Sarah Palin-ish I would say Kamchatka or to the north. There should be a few distant relatives there who could help me settle in and get with the swing of things.

It’s freaky that it’s warmer in Canada than it is here in the Ozarks. If that keeps up, I might not mind Canada. But, I really, really would prefer to live somewhere with fairly stable temperatures between, say, 65 and 90. Is there any place in the world like that?

Also, does anyone know how bad it is living in Mexico in the more Americanized areas?

I moved to South Carolina from southern Ohio. I didn’t even have it that bad up north, but still I’m a wuss. I don’t really miss snow and ice all that much. And it’s not just me. Those poor people from Florida would never stop whining either! I’ve been hearing from my kid that’s it’s “ridiculously cold” the past week or so.

I guess I might just have to take **Attack **up on his/her :confused: offer, though. It’s hard to find good help these days. :wink:

Yes, well, New England was warmer than down south last week, and that’s hardly representitive of the normal swing of things, either. How did last winter in Canada compare to Chicago?

My point was, you can’t just say “winter in Canada”. It’s a big place. Winter in Winnipeg, Manitoba is VERY cold. Winter in Victoria BC is quite mild.

Here is the climate data to compare Victoria BC, Canada, with Chicago IL:

Chicago
Max Min
Nov 48 35
Dec 37 24
Jan 32 18
Feb 38 24
Victoria
Max Min
Nov49 37
Dec44 34
Jan 44 33
Feb 47 35

Here’s some snow comparisons between Victoria, BC Canada and Chicago:

During the summer months, Victoria is the driest major city in Canada. Over the winter months,
Victoria averages just 26 cm of snow annually. (that’s 5.75 inches)

Chicago seems to have a bit more - Over 35 inches of snow annually on average

Victoria has a Mediterranean type of climate, with mild, rainy winters and cool, dry summers. Daily temperatures rise above 30°C on an average of only one day per year and fall below -5°C on an average of only 2 nights per year.
Sorry for the weather hijack, but it is one of my “things” when someone mentions “Canada” as if we were a 50 square mile protectorate with uniform weather, culture and geography.

US, I’d go to Mexico. It’s warmer than Canada and I have land access to Central and South America, with a large expat network.

Mexico doesn’t have usable land access to South America.

pdts

Hi Green Bean! How’s your beautiful baby boy?

I’m in France and I’ll pick Italy.

Worldwide: Dominica
Never in a million years: Afghanistan

Well sure but there’s a heck of a snow storm coming to Colorado today. But down here in Texas we’re supposes to crack 70 F for the high and back home in California despite the huge rain storm rolling through it will still be in the 50s.

I like my weather in the 60s in the winter and in the 80s in the summer. So Canada is still to cold for me.

Canada, no contest.

Your temperature ranges represents many of the Caribbean Island nations and places like the U.S. and British Virgin Islands too although 65 would be on the cool side of what they usually get. It can get cold enough have snow accumulations in Hawaii but only in the high mountains so you could stay away from those areas and be warm all the time although it is part of the U.S. and may not apply to you.

So, as I mentioned upthread, I have family in Mexico; my (American) aunt married a Mexican guy years ago and they’ve lived in Mexico City ever since. My uncle’s family is very wealthy and live very, very nicely. They certainly have more creature comforts than my own American family does, with live-in maids and whatever. I doubt there is anything they’d want that they can’t get locally.

It is, however, fairly dangerous. They were once held at gunpoint and robbed inside their own home. A good friend of theirs was kidnapped and held for ransom (which his family paid). They have the requisite walls covered in shards of glass around their house.

And that’s not even taking into account the traffic.

I’d still pick Mexico over Canada, though. I like Mexico. Canada is…well, it’s sort of a blank space for me. I have no feelings toward it one way or the other.

C’mon up and check it out. At the rate we’re going half the dopers in this thread are going to be crashing on my couch. :smiley:

Well, when I said Belgium was a third world country, I was kidding.

But I was really only half kidding. Somehow when you travel into Belgium from Holland, everything starts to look like someone abandoned it a long time ago. Their highways are poor, their buildings look dirty and, well, not well-arranged. Things that would have been torn down long ago in The Netherlands just sit around in Belgium. Germany, by comparison, is a lot more tidy and appeals more to the Dutch sense of spatial design of cities and landscapes and roadsides and what not. Most of this, I’m sure, is pretty superficial, and I guess one could even say that this reflects positively on the more relaxed attitude that the Belgians take to (some parts of) life, which many in The Netherlands take a real shine to. And frankly, I don’t really mind so much myself, and might even prefer it over large parts of Germany - but not Berlin.

Living in Thailand as I do, it would be either Malaysia or Cambodia. Malaysia because of the infrastructure and comfortable quality of life, not to mention access to Singapore. Cambodia because of the unbelievably cheap cost of living and excitement of seeing a dirt-poor country develop; it’s come a long way just in the past decade.

If I expand the definition to include all nations within 100 miles of the U.S.:

  1. Bahamas
  2. Canada
  3. Mexico
  4. Cuba
  5. Russia

US Doper.

Mexico pros: Climate, food, speak the language passably, business contacts, not that far from some of my family in the US.
Mexico cons: Bad government, crime

Canada pros: Speak one of the languages fluently, a bit of the other, business contacts, not that far from some of my family in the US, reasonable government, cultural similarities.
Canada cons: Most of it gets just too damn cold (and I hate cold!)

Canada would win. But it would likely be BC (climate). Got another ticket, Aft3D?

Worldwide would likely be Australia or the UK.

Worldwide wouldn’t-want-to-live-there would be most of the Middle East or third world African nations.

We’ll make room for you, missred.