YOU NONSMOKERS LEAVE ME THE HECK ALONE!

The BBQ Pit
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I smoke, damn it! I like smoking because I’m addicted to the nicotine! I like drinking too! AND screwing! Pot fits in there somewhere.

If one more self satisfied, smirking, sanctimonious, contemptuous, preachy, vitriolic, obnoxious, holier-than-thou, self-conceited, narcissistic non-smoker comes up to me and tells me how bad smoking is, how vile, evil, despicable, unhealthy, immoral, and just plain yucky, I’m going to punch the bugger in the mouth!!

You quit? FINE! Leave me the hell alone!

If I ever get to find those smarmy TRUTH no smoking ads creators with those self-righteous ‘college’ kids making fun of smokers and such, I’ll kick their asses!

A lotta you ex-smokers do pot, coke and other drugs – so who the heck are you to tell me what NOT to do. Besides – you ever seen the tar in the stem of a pot pipe? Pot produces more gunk than tobacco!

I go into a restaurant and have to fight to find a smoking section and sometimes I get poked far away from the others – right under the air intake so my ‘poisonous’ smoke gets sucked out but I get to enjoy your disease laden and foul farts blasting through the air, have to put up with your sniffling, diseased asses hawking, coughing, spitting and sneezing all over the place when you have a cold because you haven’t the courtesy to wear a protective mask over your face!

I get to put up with your noisy little off spring screaming, crying, shitting, pissing and throwing things in my restaurant or you nonsmoking momma’s poking out your pallid tit to suckle your little shit like an animal – and if I object – you get indigent and stand on your rights!

You hop into your big car that guzzles gallons of gasoline because you want power and I get to help foot the bill plus have to tolerate the sulfur dioxide you plow into my air space. Do I bitch about that? Do I place ads on television making fun of you as you pollute the atmosphere, spread your germs and greedily consume diminishing resources?

You go and enjoy a drink or two – or more and no one bitches about you pouring down that organic poison known as alcohol. Then you get out and drive and if you’ve gotten a bit tipsy – you endanger the lives of others far more than my smoking does.

The tobacco companies are developing a smokeless cigarette which is fine for us ‘addicted’ people – but you sanctimonious, rabid nonsmokers, fearing that you might be tempted to try the new evil weed are causing congress to block it.

You buggers don’t recycle like you should and your garbage is eating up my land and polluting my waters and fouling my air, but I guess THAT’S OK because it aint cigarette smoke. You readily buy tiny little things in overly large packages which waste paper and resources that trim down my forests and don’t bitch at the manufacturer about it.

How many of you men out there dump the used oil from your do it yourself oil change into the ditch? Pour a little used gasoline into the dirt do you? Well, STOP IT! You’re fouling MY world!

Hair dressers, it has been discovered, trim 5 or more years off of their lives because of the chemicals they have to handle daily. I don’t see any TRUTH smarmy kids getting all sarcastic on TV about that.

You spit on MY roads, sidewalks and streets and I get to walk through your diseased leavings and track your filth into my clean home! No one walks up to you and tells you that spitting is stupid! When you go to lunch coughing up your flue infected lungs, spreading the germs for scores of feet about you like a fire hose, no one makes you sit in a special section. Hell, you could have TB or Pneumonia! Your germs could kill someone.

You nonsmokers who don’t wash your hands after using the toilet have no problem with exposing me and hundreds of others to your fecal bacteria, which can contain Hepatitis, Staph, Strep, and about 500 other nasty little ‘gifts’ that can hurt others. (You think your ass stinks because it’s sterile? It stinks because of bacterial byproducts!)

AND you ‘unrestricted’ gun lovers out there. You might not smoke but you have no problem with any nut being able to buy enough fire arms and high powered ammunition to take over a small country with. It’s OK, I guess that every crook out there has a tech-9 with Teflon coated, armor piercing shells in it or that 16 year old loony has his dad’s .12 gauge loaded with sabot rounds that shoot through cement walls. The ‘good ‘ol boy’ down the street who has a problem with authority bought himself an anti-tank gun and a case of shells ‘fer plinkin’.’

That’s OK 'cause he don’t smoke.

The ‘evil weed’ is worse than all of these things.

Well, screw you! Go snort your coke, smoke your crack, guzzle your booze and fart in crowded rooms and leave me alone! I don’t give a flying fuck if you’ve quit or not!

BUG OFF!

I’m going to start pushing legislation to have you sniffling, coughing, sneezing, disease spreading, cold carrying walking towers of infection restricted to certain areas in restaurants and public places. Hey, it’s MY air too and MY lungs and I don’t need your fuckin’ germs!

***And, Satan, I don’t give a shit how long you’ve been smoke free! I find your advertising it obnoxious. Should I post how long I’ve been coke free? How about VD free? ***

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And you know, Sentinel, by my not smoking, I never put anyone in the intensive care unit for a solid week.

That happened to me, thanks to other people’s smoking.

Granted, I worked in an a basement office in a building that still had graffiti mocking the Kaiser. But getting lungs that looked like a smoker’s lungs from it didn’t help me freaking breathe with that lovely pneumo-thorax.

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Lets give it a try.

slythe, VD-free and coke-free for:
42 years, 8 months, and 9 days.

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Sentinel,
   Thank you. Those damn anti-smoking ads have always bothered me, since I think it’s really stupid that the government is wasting my money to tell me not to smoke, when I had no intention of ever starting anyways. But now when I see one, I’ll think to myself “at least this is pissing off one ignorant motherfucker, and that’s always a good thing.”

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Monty

Funny. The guy who put my face – with the rest of me along for the ride – in the hospital to be wired back together some years back didn’t smoke either. He just drank.

The little piss ant who fired two shots at me 6 years ago outside of a bar didn’t smoke either. He just drank too much.

There are thousands of people who wind up in the hospital with lung disease having never smoked in their lives – but having had to live and work in cities clogged with car exhausts.

I wound up flat on my back with pneumonia once because my fellow workers caught the flue and came in coughing all over the small office. Within a week, nearly all of us had it and mine turned into pneumonia.

The guy that smashed the little intercom on my apartment door years ago, kicked my car and dared me to come out and fight didn’t smoke either. He just did pot all day. He got some bad weed and went a little nuts. I settled him down for the night with a billy club, being just a tad irritated.

A whole bunch of kids in Port St. Lucie Florida, all living within a certain area developed cancer. They didn’t smoke. Of course, no one mentioned the industrial waste the cheap contractors buried in the soil years earlier that got into the water system.

We used to quarantine people who got measles, but now they stand on their civil rights and have the right to go to work and school and infect everyone. Pregnant women just love that. Funny TRUTH doesn’t have any television ads concerning that little problem.

I was minding my own business tonight, having a quiet smoke over a beer at an outside table at a restaurant, after a light meal, in a smoking section, when a small cluster of 4 sat down wind of me and started bitching loudly about my ‘second hand smoke.’ One of the young ‘bitches’ loudly suggested that ‘assholes’ who smoke should not be around people who don’t. The young ‘stud’ with her observed, also loudly, that smoking was a filthy habit and should be banned in public.

I was cool. I finished my beer, finished my smoke, decided that I was not up to taking on two much younger guys who looked like they hung out at the beach all day pumping iron, and left. It kind of pissed me off though. Had I consumed another two beers, I might have made rude suggestions concerning what came out of their mouths was the same as what they blew out of their asses.

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I would like to point out that this is blatant bullshit. Carry on.

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Maybe chemicals are not the problem here…

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I’m glad that California passed a law that keeps smokers from smoking in restaurants. As far as i’m concerned your habit belongs outside. Even when people were in smoking sections, the smoke would waft over to the non smoking section.

Besides, where the hell do you go that you have people doing those things? None of the places i’ve been to had deathly ill people hacking, coughing, or sneezing at the table (and if someone sneezes they use a handkerchief to cover their face).

Dont get pissy because you started a habit out of your own free will.

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I don’t remember Satan getting on anyones case about smoking. If he wants to give up and tell us about it , fair play as far as I’m concerned . I love smoking( both types of weed ) even though I know it’s killing me .
So my advice to you is just kick back and light up whatever brand of coffin nail you prefer.

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When I was in the Navy no-one gave any consideration to those who did not smoke ,we were in a small minority.
To those people it was funny watching us rubbing our sore eyes so they would blow their smoke deliberately at us for a few more kicks.

Smokers used to be so self-righteous or at least the loud minority of them were.After years of unpleasance from such people it was bound to create a counter reaction giving us a new breed - the health fascist.

Obnoxiousness in any form is just that, there is no need to treat smokers as pariahs most, I have found, are fairly considerate. Social pressure is one thing but repression is another.

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In my younger and more illegal days, we used to scrape this ‘gunk’ out of the pipe and resmoke it. Waste not, want not.

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I dunno. I think Sentinel has a right to bitch about those sanctimonious non-smokers who get in his face. That is rude and uncalled-for.

Of course, then he blows it by grumbling about drinkers (that he admits to being) and dopers (that he hints he has been) and a whole list of other socially and environmentally nasty habits. The problem with that part of the rant is that I have known lots of drinkers, dopers, environmental wasters, keepers of unruly babies, farters, and otherwise obnoxious goofs who all smoked.

In other words: People, they’re no damned good. However, smokers are people who are no damned good like the rest of us, plus they smoke.

I have never given a smoker grief. As long as smokers don’t whine in my face, I will leave them alone.

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I haven’t taken Satan’s sig as hassling others. It is obviously a public side bet. By providing ammunition for various people who would flame him if he lapsed, he is making it harder to backslide. He is structuring rewards to guard against the moment when the tubes of delight conspire to overpower him.

Sentinel is unknowingly being useful.

I’ve got to go outside at home and have a smoke. I don’t mean just generally…after reading this thread I mean right now.

picmr

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From what I can determine – though I might be incorrect (this disclaimer is for all of you meticulous, anal retentive, obsessive bean counters) – there are more no smoking advertisements on television than ads aimed at combating drugs or drunk drivers.

Go work in any job where one has to be outside a large portion of the day – like a receiving dock, truck driver, delivery man, postman and so on – and during flue and cold season, see how many employees come in sick.

When AIDS first appeared, we had a disease that spread in ways dimly understood – BUT people took places to court to allow their infected children to attend school and to be allowed to work among others. I didn’t see ‘TRUTH’ and others advertising on television against the stupidity and danger of this.

You go into a big building to work or shop. You’re in basically an enclosed environment. The air is mostly recycled and lightly filtered for the air conditioning to work. All of the airborne bacteria people like to hack up gets to float around for everyone to enjoy. (In Japan – most sick people wear surgical masks to protect others from their germs – or to keep from catching any. THAT makes more sense than the American way of hacking up clumps for everyone else to enjoy.)

Those smokeless cigarettes coming out won’t have 80 to 90% of the garbage regular smokes have, being mainly designed as a delivery system for the nicotine. They’re safer but STILL the rabid no smoking nuts are trying to block them.

Funny. Sweet and Low was the subject of concern some time ago because of the potential for harm. It’s still out there! Still being sold by the ton and no ads on TV try to get people not to use it.

How about your car? That converter produces sulfur dioxide. In some states, the emissions have dramatically increased the acidity of the local rain and lakes no longer have fish in them. The resulting acid rain hurts everything. So, where are the ads designed to get the auto industry to find something better? (The auto industry KNEW about the sulfur dioxide BEFORE they turned them loose on millions of cars. You think they didn’t do the math to determine just how many tons of sulfur would be released into the atmosphere from millions of cars over the years?)

No one has yet closely examined the additives the sacred beer industry puts in their product – which are not on the label nor talked about. (Heavens! Start a campaign against Bush beer for causing cancer and the ‘TRUTH’ people would be mobbed and stomped within days.)

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Thank you, Serlin, for your enlightening and oh so typical post.

Fact is, I love tobacco. I love the taste of it. I love the way it curls into my nose after I exhale it. I love holding it in my hands. I love the way it tastes after a meal or some hot sex.

Unfortunately, my love for other things is greater than my love for tobacco.

My love for paying my bills and having cash on hand for things such as CDs or a good steak in a restaurant make it counter-productive for me to spend $120+ a month on cigarettes.

And needless to say, my love for my fiancee makes me want to live a long as I can. While it’s certainly possible I could live as long whether I smoke or not, or that I can get hit by a bus tomorrow, I am the kind of person who likes to wear seatbelts and not tempt fate. Hedging ones bets is not a bad thing.

Oh, and I’m all for smokers rights. I’ve gone on record in another thread saying how I would want to have a room in my house a place where guests could smoke. And I think it’s bullshit the way smokers have been dumped on by so many people, and how it is taxed higher than anything else.

And being all for smokers rights means that I have nothing against smokers.

I’m just glad that, while I love tobacco, I found some things that I love more.

Maybe one day you will…

And if you don’t like my sig file, I suggest you not read it. I don’t plan on changing for you or anyone.

Also, something to consider here: From your posts since you were Mark Serlin, you seem to be someone who likes to be in control. Heck, in this post, you seem to want to contol me and anyone who quit or doesn’t like smoking!

And I found out that, while I am not a control freak by any stretch of the imagination, it is quite liberating to not allow an inanimate object control me.

I mean, doesn’t it suck being controlled by tobacco, Mark?

Yer pal,
Satan

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I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR:
Three weeks, one day, 13 hours, 33 minutes and 12 seconds.
902 cigarettes not smoked, saving $112.82.
Life saved: 3 days, 3 hours, 10 minutes.

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Well, I certainly don’t, at least not anymore. And when I did, I never exposed ANYONE to it who didn’t want to be. The few times I smoked pot, we pot smokers would leave the room and go elsewhere, so as not to expose people who didn’t want to be there. It’s called common courtesy, and since we were in the minority, we decided to be nice. Seems like an alien concept to you.

Besides, it’s hardly comparable. I’ve smoked pot less than ten times in my life. A pack-a-day smoker smokes twice that many cigarettes per DAY, making it in my face MUCH more than I ever could have been in anyone else’s had I chosen to do so. Which I didn’t. That goes back to that whole common courtesy thing.

Do you have proof that farts cause disease? Besides, everyone farts. Not everyone smokes. If you’re going to argue that you want to be away from farts in a restaurant, remember to sit in a separate room from your date (hee!) and bring a cork.

Again, damn near everyone gets one cold a year. Not everyone smokes. You choose to engage in a habit which might cause others discomfort (I, for one, get sinus problems when around cigarette smoke for extended periods of time), then you pay the consequences. Nobody chooses to get a cold, and as such shouldn’t be ostracized. That’s like telling me that since I go to class when I have the sniffles, you should be allowed to smoke in there too. And that’s bullshit.

Again, babies have to eat. You don’t have to smoke.

You certainly did, Mark. But see, I don’t drive. I take the bus. And just how do you foot the bill for other people’s cars, anyway?

So up to this point, I still have the right to bitch at you if you smoke in my face without being a hypocrite about it.

No, but all people do that, to a greater or lesser extent. You just add self-pollution to the list.

I barely drink, and when I do I don’t drive. Some people do, and it’s illegal for a reason. Just as you are separated from non-smokers in a restaurant for a reason.

Nothing will get me to try the “evil weed,” and I do not recall talking to any members of Congress about this. However, what you are saying is interesting, and I would like to see more information. Do you have any links to relevant articles?

Well, again–everyone in this country creates garbage. Not everyone smokes. And if you are so concerned about pollution, why are you contributing to it by smoking? Look at the streets and sidewalks outside of non-smoking buildings. Butts all over the place. That’s pollution. Smoke in the air, giving me sinusitis and possibly cancer. That’s pollution. Do your part, Mark, and stop complaining that others are not when you’re just as bad as they are if not worse.

Again, I don’t drive, but even when I did, I certainly never did a do-it-yourself anything with my car. So I’m still not a hypocrite.

A) I’d like a cite for that.
B) People need to get their hair cut, so hairdressers are performing a societal good. What is so socially beneficial about smoking?
C) Hairdressers get paid for what they do, while you pay for the privelege of taking years off your life. Which is more intelligent?
D) Even if what you are saying is true, there are countless more smokers than hairdressers, making smoking the more pressing public health issue.

Actually, I do. And I was giving dirty looks all day to a guy who brought his dip cup to my morning class. Yet another disgusting habit brought to us by Big Tobacco. At least he wasn’t spitting it on the floor, like the jocks used to in high school. Still, I wouldn’t have envied the guy sitting next to him. Vomit.

I agree with you, spitting in public is disgusting, vile, and should be reviled. And I do.

Sure, but did we choose to get sick?

At worst, that makes you even.

This is just ridiculous. Since when has “You have the right to bear cigarettes, causing discomfort and possibly cancer to countless people who come in contact with you” in the Constitution? Nice little straw man, not that the rest of what you’ve had to say wasn’t…

No thanks. Well, except for the farting part, but it’s not like I can help that.

Again, it comes down to choice. You choose to start and continue smoking, knowing the consequences of doing so. We do not, therefore, we should be spared the consequences, NOT you. Nobody chooses to be sick, and life has to go on in spite of having the sniffles.

I hope this dose of logic clears things up for you. Now get that fucking cancer stick out of my face.

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Hey, I’d like a cite about the child with measles having a constitutional right to infect the whole school populace! I mean, you’ve already posted blatant BS, as mentioned above, so why should we believe this part either?

BTW, Doob: Don’t forget about the cool law in Monterey which prohibits smoking even in the “sidewalk” or patio areas of restaurants. Well, that’s the justification that Starbucks on Alvarado lists in their sign.

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Oh my goodness.

Thanks Satan, for bringing up the Serlin reference. I had completely forgotten that.

I think it is time we introduce a system that exposes people for what they are or have been. So the left column would actually say:

Posted by:
Sentinel
(a.k.a. MarkSerlin, NightGirl44, Rainbowcsr, Ladylust, NITWATCH2, etc.)

Re-reading the OP (and some of the more recent Sentinel posts) I could just slap myself for failing to see the similarities.

What an ass.

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Prove it you mouthy, smart assed sons of bitches. Don’t you think the monitors would have kicked me off long ago?

I might have a secret or two up my sleeve, but not what you arrogant bastards think. Multiple names do not always mean a single user.

Point here: 85% of the male message board users at one time or another, pretend to be female for one reason or another.

You conceited, arrogant SOBs piss me off. Smarming your way through the boards like you’re some sort of elite, sitting there in your little clique and picking at those who don’t agree with your specific style of thought, smirking at those you think beneath you and following every one of the ‘rules of the pit’ to the letter – including concentrating on a single error out of an entire thread and ignoring any truths included and if that fails, attacking the poster directly.

The SDMB is a beautiful example of social conceit, cliques, and mental masturbation for pseudo-intellectuals. Unless a poster fits the rules decided by a few, they’re not welcome and no matter what they say or write, they’re ridiculed and attacked.

To the very few of you who fit this description, you may pucker up and kiss my ass. What a bunch of self satisfied, self-oriented, narcissistic, narrow minded buggers you are.

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I certainly hope this is true. It would be really weird to find out that the person who went off so badly on overweight people would indulge in tobacco.