Big Secret Here:
I’m 30 pounds overweight. I was 40 but I dropped 10 pounds in three weeks, Now I’m working on at least 10 more. I have my own tried and true diet for when I get lazy and over indulge. My Target weight is 185. I now weigh 225 – though I’m tall and don’t look it. By Friday I’ll be down to 220.
I did not choose to smoke, you did. You blow smoke in my face, I get cancer, I die. You do not have a right to murder me, and Ihave a right to say stop it.
I don’t drive, I don’t litter, I’ve never done drugs, I don’t spit in public, I don’t breast feed, I always wash my hands, and I do not own a gun…what other ignorant complaints do you have?
So without being hypocritical I can say this, I choose not to die by your (Or any other smokers hands) and I will remind all smokers of that as loudly and as often as possible. I also choose not to die by the hands of drunk drivers, that is why I also try to discourage that.
pepperlandgirl:
[I don’t drive, I don’t litter, I’ve never done drugs, I don’t spit in public, I don’t breast feed, I always wash my hands, and I do not own a gun…]
So, what do you do? I gotta know!
Sentinel, why so hostile? If all of this is nonsense, just ignore it, or refute it.
Don’t throw a hissy fit about how arrogant we are just because we see some similarities between you and a series of usernames belonging to one idiot everybody dispised. After all, if your name shouldn’t be in that long list of sock puppets, why get mad?
Calmly convince us of the contrary. What is so difficult about that?
I would, however, want you to know that I think you’re a huge asshole anyway. Your recent postings on smoking and (from memory) attempts to poison an allergic tennant were more than revolting. The aggressive tone in the OP, combined with the incidents described, can only lead to one conclusion: white trash with absolutely no manners whatsoever.
And if you’re trying to label people here by calling them pseudo-intellectuals, I suggest you’d better look at yourself first. Cause the light in the attic doesn’t appear to be all that bright, buddy.
Putz.
(I think he qualifies Wally - only in REALLY obvious cases will I make the call myself. This is one of those cases.)
Most definately a putz, Coldfire.
I think the word was invented for morons like this.
Sentinel, you are an asshole of major proportions. If you despise us so much, why don’t you fuck off?
I’ll tell you why. Because in real life, no one will talk to you.
You’re an ignorant, pathetic loser who has somehow managed to learn how to use a keyboard.
Please do not feed the troll, people.
I, for one, find it amusing that Serlinel accuses this board of “mental masturbation,” while his OPs and follow-ups are some of the longest, most rambling pieces of self-serving histrionic drivel ever seen on this board.
I also find it amusing that Serlinel is oh-so-affronted by FASHION (remember those long rants about tribal fabrics, braids, and dreadlocks?), and yet gets all indignant when people get offended that he’s doing something in public that is making them ill.
You can’t have it both ways, Marky. These are the sacrifices you make to live in a civilized society, not that you’d have any idea what that entails.
And as for why the moderators don’t go after you for being Sentinel–well, the Serlin name was probably cancelled. You can’t have more than two screen names at once. Nobody says you can’t switch, unless the switch is prompted by your original SN being banned (and even that isn’t always the case–you have to be a jerk with your next name, too). Since Serlin was never banned (although he was just as much of an odious asshole as you are), you’re not technically breaking any rules. So that’s why the moderators aren’t on your ass. But you knew that…
I used to work with a guy who smoked, and I told
him it would kill him. We had some nasty arguments
on the subject. He swore his lungs were fine, his
coughing and hacking were because of allergies.
I told him I didn’t want him smoking cause I have
had tuberculous and only have one functioning lung.
He claimed he fought in the war so he had a right
to smoke (don’t ask me for the logic of that).
He died when he set his car on fire.
I laughed last.
How come nobody mentions the amount of fire damage
caused by smoking?
Hey, Sentinel,
You don’t really believe the things you said in your OP, do you?
I mean, it was almost midnight when you wrote it. In the cold, stark light of morning, when you scroll back and re-read it, do you really, calmly, actually believe those things and posess those opinions?
In your latest “post,” you accused some group of people of:
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Aren’t you (rather vehemently) doing exactly the same thing in your OP? You are picking on people whose views differ from your own. Right?
You also called those people:
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[li]Isn’t your very motivation for starting this thread narcissistic and self-motivated?[/li][li]Aren’t some of the views you purport to believe just a bit narrow-minded?[/li][/ul]
In your OP, you describe smokers as:
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Upon reflection, don’t you find the tone of that “post” a little contemptuous? How about preachy? Vitriolic? Obnoxious? Holier-than-thou?
Do you even know what those words mean?!?! :rolleyes:
I ask again, you don’t really believe the things you said in your OP, do you?
Because if you do, I think we’ve got a case of the old “pot calling the kettle a self satisfied, smirking, sanctimonious, contemptuous, preachy, vitriolic, obnoxious, holier-than-thou, self-conceited, narcissistic, narrow-minded bugger.”
I’m sure that you didn’t intend that sort of hypocrisy.
Because, if I’m wrong, then we’re left with only one conclusion:
You’re an incurable butthead.
If so, please go away.
Actually, that response was directed at those who insist on calling me ‘Serlin,’ ect, ect, and had nothing to do with my OP. I hijacked my own thread.
Oh - I see.
I still think your OP was:
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Not to mention:
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[li]incoherent,[/li][li]fatuous[/li][li]puerile and[/li][li]pointless.[/li][/ul]
Isn’t sharing opinions fun? 
Look, butthead, you smoke, you die. You don’t care? Fine.
But now, the equation has changed. Now it’s:
You smoke, others die.
You really too selfish and stupid to understand that?
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Then you are a butthead.
(I though so)
bitching about other peoples bad habits doesnt cure yours!
think about this:
if we would have invented cigarettes now, instead of all those years ago, would smoking be “legal”?
bj0rn
You know, Mark, you’re so full of hatred and anger, I’m really glad the only place I’ll ever run into you is the board.
phouka
You never know. You just might have. Besides, this is the pit, right, so bite me!
Like I stated before, many of you nonsmokers do things just as bad, but don’t say a peep about it and you know who you are. You walk into a place sick, coughing and spreading your germs and how do you know that some of those germs might not infect someone who has a health problem and that shared cold of yours pushes them over the edge?
You who drink don’t always stop at one beer and go home, but some of you no doubt climb into your car and wobble on home. Hell, I’ve watched many a nonsmoker stagger out of the bar at closing time and barely make it out of the parking lot in their cars.
You all have the power to force the government to force the car makers to develop something better than the converter under your car which spews out sulfur dioxide which poisons the air. Some of you live in major cities with a pollution rate so high that you daily breath in a cocktail of dangerous gasses and think nothing of it – but you bitch at smokers.
Some of you like to experience road rage and there is a very good possibility that you’ve caused accidents unknowingly with your actions. Some of you KNOW you caused them but escaped without getting caught.
How about those of you who have many sexual partners and don’t use protection and not only risk catching any of the 3 most dangerous STDs but spreading it among your contacts.
How many of you sweet nonsmokers have gotten some girl pregnant and run out on her? How many cheat on your wives or lovers? Which one of you beat up your spouse? How many are active members of hate groups and act on that hate?
I smoke, but I don’t cheat, don’t drive drunk, don’t hit women, use safe sex, and don’t fly into road rage. Plus, I’m bondable - which means I don’t steal. How many of you nonsmokers do a little petty theft?
Got a criminal record? I don’t. How many of you male nonsmokers think it’s great fun to go out, find some poor sucker and beat him up because you ‘feel rowdy’? I don’t. Which of you deal drugs? I don’t. Who uses crack, coke or any of the ‘hard’ drugs? I don’t.
Which one of you ‘oh so good’ nonsmokers stop at accidents to help? I do. Which of you abuse animals? I don’t. (Abuse also encompass beating the animal hard, smacking it around, not feeding it properly or training it to be ‘mean.’)
How many of you are businesses people who feel that there is a difference between normal life and ‘just business’ and think nothing about back stabbing someone to get ahead or try to find ways to take over their company? I don’t. Any bosses out there who feel that their employees are ‘expendable’? When I was a boss, I never did.
According to the government, I have the right to smoke where smoking is applicable, because it is not against the law. Because this is legal, none of you have the right to sit and poke at me because I’m smoking in your vicinity. If you don’t like it, move the fuck away instead of complaining loudly about it. I don’t bitch at people who drink around me and I don’t run up to someone in a new car which is spewing out sulfur dioxide and rave at them.
I dislike cigar smoke and found it offensive in close restaurants before nonsmoking became a big thing but I did not sit there and bitch loudly about it.
How many of you nonsmokers like to play head games with your susceptible partner and drive him or her nearly into an institution or drive them to the point of hurting themselves? I don’t. (I know of two who do.)
How many of you nonsmokers have gotten into an argument with a loved one, then called the cops, stated he hit you and have him hauled off to jail? (Of course, you dropped the charges and he was released in the morning.) You were ‘just getting even.’ I haven’t and won’t.
People quitting smoking are worse than alcoholics who have quit drinking. THEY have a 12 step program and a self awareness program and don’t bitch at people around them who still drink! I have not spotted any recovering alcoholic here – and there has to be at least 1 – posting about how long he has been dry, or forming sobriety groups or whining about how hard it is to not drink. Nor do I see any friggin’ ads on TV making fun of drinkers, having smug college kids calling up beer companies and rattling off the death toll caused by drinkers or doing into detail about the effects booze has on the body.
Nonsmokers certainly do. Hell, there are at least two threads for people stopping smoking here in the SDMB and another ex-smoker displays his (days sober) time smoke free and announcers where to get a smoke free life counter!
I haven’t found any booze free life counters. Nor drug recovery life counters, nor drug recovery posts.
You stopped smoking? Great! I’m happy for you – but I don’t want to be bugged about it.
Any of you nonsmokers stopped to wonder why the cancer rate has gone up within the last 35 years from 1 in 10 to 1 in 3 – and not because of smoking either? I have.
As for measles, one cannot quarantine a whole family if one member has the disease anymore. It is against the civil rights. That means, members exposed to it, while they might not get it, can freely carry and spread the disease among people they meet.
Before anyone knew how AIDS was actually spread, a family sued a school which denied their AIDS infected child access, and won, which means they deliberately risked infecting hundreds just for a ‘right.’ Even today, knowing how AIDS is spread, there are problems with kids having it in school, because some have been caught deliberately spitting at other students who angered them. AIDS infected prostitutes are not quarantined but are released with a warning and the knowledge that they will still ply their trade.
Funny. Less fuss is made over that than smoking. I don’t see any ads warning people to avoid AIDS carriers.(I’m exaggerating here as an example - so don’t jump my ass for this statement.) AIDS is always fatal. Smoking is not. No one sits in a restaurant and bitches about AIDS infected people sitting nearby.
TB is running free again. Mainly because people don’t get the immunization shots. You nonsmokers out there with a chronic cough MIGHT have TB, which is infectious. You go among other people not wearing any mask and you spread your disease and somewhere, someone getting your infection stands a good possibility of dying from it.
I don’t see any movement to force people to get immunized, or to wear protective masks, or to even get people to be more careful when they are sick and around others.
There sure is a big fuss over trying to get people to stop smoking though.
Bite me!
Yeah, because the $10 whore makes you wear a condom.
Sentinel, you’re a seriously disturbed man. That’s the only thing that can be concluded from the completely insane reasonings I just read in your last post.
I advise you to get serious psychriatric help, and I beg you to get the fuck away from this board. You’re harmless to us, but you sure as hell are annoying.
I didn’t want people to bug you about it. Then I read your posts. Now I do.
Oh and:
Various causes of death go down, others must rise, because everyone dies.
picmr
Is it just me, or is it really appropriate to have “Serlin” and “ECT” in the same sentence?
I reckon Sentinel could benefit from some as well. . .
That’s what I like about the SDMB, nothing gets through to the numbskulls.
Basically, I’ve been pointing out that the no smoking shit is hellaciously exaggerated and while similar and potentially as problematic situations and causes go by with little fanfare.
There are several cities in the US so polluted that the occupants, just by walking around them, even if they don’t smoke, face the risk equal to 2 1/2 packs a day BUT no one is making a tremendous thing out of that.
It seems to be the ‘in’ thing today to bitch about smokers whenever and wherever possible, though there are other things going on which require just as much public response, but do not get it.
You guys tend to ignore everything else.
probably just as many as you smokers!
unless you are saying the difference between smokers and nonsmokers is more than just smoking.
you seem to be suggesting that nonsmokers do alot of things smokers dont. like:
- drink and drive
- beat their wifes(so, all women are smokers?)
- abuse animals
- argue with their loved ones
- complain about smokers
etc…
could you tell me how smoking prevents some people from doing this?
bj0rn - 1. no, 2. no, 3. no, 4. no, 5. yes
Psst. Hey, Sentinel,
OK. Let’s assume for a moment that you have a point. If so, it was:
I want to make it clear that:
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[li]I steadfastly refuse to do anything to allow people to think that I want to have anything to do with you,[/li][li]I don’t agree with 99.999% of your “posts” and[/li][li]I think that, as Coldfire said, you sure as hell are annoying.[/li][/ol]
All that said, I’m willing to concede that, to a point, you’re right (gasp!). Smoking is more than a health issue in this country; it’s a political one.
That said, WTF is wrong with you?!?!?!?! 
Look, my two-year-old understands the adage that “two wrongs don’t make a right.” Why don’t you?
Smoking is deadly. Second-hand smoke is just as deadly. If you dispute those facts, then you can take your head out of the sand and shove it so far up your ass that your filthy smoke never gets out.
psst! sdimbert!
A little secret here: If you don’t like my posts, then don’t read them. In the meantime, you may shove your head up your ass and fart and blow out what minuscule brains you have. Fuck off.
bj0rn
I’m pointing out that nonsmokers participate readily in as many unacceptable and often deadly things as smokers do. I’m also pointing out that with so many other, more wide spread dangers floating about that need to be addressed, the nearly fanatical, currently ‘in thing’ of ripping smokers is ludicrous.
Like my section concerning alcoholics. Alcohol abuse is more dangerous towards others than smoking – but the harassment is less. Chronic drunks damage their livers, hearts, intestinal tracts, brains and kidneys. At one time, there was a question as to whether or not chronic alcohol abusers with liver failure should have to wait longer than others for liver transplants.
I don’t find anywhere as many people bitching about drunks as smokers.
It is now ‘politically correct’ to bitch at smokers and you jackasses are jumping on the band wagon complete with then party line, ignoring the potential for violating the civil rights of smokers. Even the Mothers Against Drunk Drivers ad campaign was not as sarcastic, widespread or down right nasty as the current one against smokers is.
You all bitch that smokers affect your health with second hand smoke and all that – so when I pointed out how you ‘normal’ people affect each others health to the same degree, it just goes right over your friggin’ pointed heads.
Even with all of the health risks facing alcoholics – including colon cancer, ect, none of the adds tried to force them to stop drinking, but to control it and even laws were enacted for force control.
I point out that people allow diseased people to mingle readily among others with the potential to spread the infections widely – which is similar to the second hand smoke thing – but accepted with barely a peep and you fanatics don’t get the picture.
Smokers get slammed for doing something very potentially hazardous to their own and others health and when I display other actions people do in a similar light, but which are more accepted – you call me nuts.
You laugh about my comparison of farts. If you smell 'em you’re getting the bacteria. Fart in a petrii dish and see what grows. The comparison is that so many bitch about the scent of tobacco smoke but have no problem putting up with obnoxious human gas release.
It’s not that smokers don’t do these things, it is that these things are just as annoying and potentially dangerous but they are accepted. Not too long back, there was this big thing about caffeine in coffee and potential health hazards. So, they developed caffeine free coffee – though the cheapest way of removing the stuff can leave the coffee more harmful than before. Along came the current Coffee Fever with all of the assorted and expensive ways of drinking more concentrated forms of the brew and the bad press all but fell by the wayside.
Efforts by the tobacco companies to make safer smokes are being met with scorn. (No one has even discussed the fact that the majority of the ‘bad stuff’ in the tobacco comes from chemicals added for flavor. Nor have there been any results from testing of cigarettes and tobacco products like ‘Nat Sherman’s’ – an additive free, natural tobacco company.)
However, such considerations are lost on fanatics like yourself. You follow the party line. I can list a whole bunch of things going on that are just as harmful, if not more so than smoking, that few people bitch about and you’ll ignore them.
Well, here comes the ‘Party Line’ again. Bend over and let 'em stick it up you again so you can rant and rave about smokers with the same zeal that Carrie Nation had when forcing the ill fated prohibition on the Nation.
Most smokers won’t argue about it. I will. As I stated before – smoking is not illegal. I have a right to smoke if I so choose. Publically bitching at me about it is a violation of my civil rights and harassment so kiss my ass.