My personal vote for most disgusting partisanship has to be ralph124c’sDid Obama cause the 31 US Seal Team 6 Deaths?
ETA: He shockingly concludes that yes, it is Obama’s fault.
Bolding added to demonstrate the “interesting” contrast there, and the resulting credibility of its context. :rolleyes:’
Now do please start to try to be at least one little bit better than SA. The evidence so far is against you.
No. Dismissive, strawmannish, false-equivalencing, yes, constantly. But ambiguous? No.
You’re an idiot if you think what you bolded is what Miller is calling SA on.
Don’t take this personally, but no one around here cares what you think.
I will give you credit, in an ironic sort of way, for showing up in a thread like this.
And I continue to be a pretty libertarian. But it’s a false equivalency to say that libertarianism equals conservatism.
You’re an idiot if that’s what you think I"m calling **Miller **on.
Compared to you? :dubious:
I was named first.
Now, how about going back to your “I’m proud to be above all you grubby, compromised participants who somehow think any of it matters” act? :rolleyes:
So, you are just talking about politicians here, and not all conservatives?
Or a lot. If nothing else, not all of those who hold conservative views are Republicans.
Because there are discussions here that don’t involve politics?
Okay, let’s put it a bit more explicitly:
Miller is not calling SA out for singling out a poster and insulting him. He’s calling SA out for doing that and then backpedaling and acting the victim.
Insults are not, in themselves, a failing to be avoided. Dumbass.
OK. At least my memory isn’t completely wrecked.
I have to say that there are fewer and fewer Republicans these days who even rate as libertarian on the economic side of things. Too many corporate and anti-science types. As a libertarian leaning person, it’s much easier voting for Democrats than Republicans these days. The Democrats still like to try and manage the economy more than I would like, but they pretty much support the same time of trade policies that the Republicans do, even if they’re rhetoric is sometimes more populist.
In CA, the Republicans dumped Tom Campbell in the last primary for Senator in favor of Carly Fiorina. :rolleyes: That was a like a slap in the face to someone like me.
Yes. Compared to me. Modesty prevents me from quantifying that.
You would do yourself a favor by listening to some advise from those on the same political side as you.
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What chaps my hide about that is the self-serving presumption that since partisans are stupid, non-partisans must be somehow smarter. I offer the alternative suggestions that perhaps they just don’t give a rats, or can’t make up their minds.
Hell, I can see both sides of the issues just as well, I’ve made a choice, and I’m going to pull on this end of the rope. And smug non-partisans can lead, follow, or get out of the way.
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In my opinion, you are completely misstating the position of non-partisans.
I prefer to consider myself non-partisan, even though I routinely vote Democrat when it comes to elections. I don’t think I’m smarter than anyone else for that; hell, I’m probably dumber than most when it comes to politics. But Jeasus peasus, I am goddam sick and tired of the same few posters on this board endlessly pissing on my leg and telling me it’s raining. When one chooses to post to this board more or less exclusively on politics, and when one resolutely refuses to accept the pointing out of potential errors in one’s statements, as many of these tinpot poltical shills do, then frankly one is being an asshole.
As for the second paragraph, what the hell does that even mean? My vote counts the same as yours, sunshine. I’ll grant you’re certainly good at the one-liner, but your tedious smugness, Elucidator, frankly does you no favors.*
I am of course certain that you will reply to this, if at all, with a snide, dismissive, passive-aggressive one-liner. Well, the floor is yours; have at it. Hope it’s a good one.
*Work with me here, folks; next time Starving Artist runs his line of bullshit that he’s being singled out unfairly, you can point to this post.
As well as the complete lack of supporting facts. And there’s that irresponsible dismissiveness and strawmannishness of yours yet again. Schmuck.
Either you really are too dumb to get it, or you’re too cowardly to admit you didn’t. Schmuck either way; pick one.
I offer another alternative, one which I think the evidence usually better supports - that they lack the courage and responsibility to act on a conclusion, and therefore avoid stating or, sometimes, even reaching one.
Sure, but i think it’s reasonable, in the context of this discussion, to assume that those taking part are precisely the sort of people who are interested in political discussions. I’m sure that even Starving Artist is capable of making a non-stupid post in a thread titled “What is your favorite movie?” or “Tell us what you cooked for dinner last night,” but it’s precisely political debates that we are talking about here.
In his post, the lone cashew specifically said that one reasons that conservatives might not come to Starving Artist’s aid is that “since the board is so heavy on the opposition, some of us deem it hopeless to try to put our two cents in.” But there are plenty of conservatives who do, in fact,“put their two cents in” in GD threads; they just don’t generally do it in support of Starving Artist’s contributions.
Schmuck? Funny, you don’t look Jewish.
I regret that I must disappoint. My best to you and yours, as always. With deep and abiding respect, your pal, e.
Nuh-uh, you are.
Pff. I said my piece. If Miller wants to try beating his head against this wall, he’s welcome to.
Ah. The problem here is I don’t tend to read any of the GD threads so I don’t know that. However, I don’t tend to come to Starving Artist’s defense because of the volume of the prose - I just don’t have enough interest to deal with that. Plus, of the little that I have read, he doesn’t seem to share many of my opinions. Which is kind of my point - being a conservative on some things doesn’t make me a Republican nor in any other box.
Apparently I’m the third person who thinks we need to take some time out from the Starving Artist Show and Aftermath to impugn ralph124c for this thread.
SA, here’s your chance to redeem yourself (at least a little). What do you think of his post?