See, I thought Jah was pronounced with a Y, but Marley23 insists its the J sound.
Yes.
God, working through Marley23, wished to demonstrate that He is tired of kanicbird invoking Him to support kanicbird’s personal agenda. God, working through other posters in this thread is attempting to convince kanicbird that it is wrong and blasphemous to claim Him as the inspiration for kanicbird’s fallacious thinking and ludicrous beliefs.
If this holy mission succeeds, it would be powerful evidence to convince doubters. Alas, such a miracle is almost certainly beyond even the Almighty’s greatest powers.
The blessing of the herb makes it matter less. Mon.
Might be getting into what some call ‘Paulianity.’
I can imagine scenarios where it might.
Why might be answered by questioning who it was that might have given the Antioch christians the name. It could have first been in a derogatory fashion. It could have represented a schism in the church.
But it could have meant otherwise. Luke did not seem to attach any derogatory significance to it.
I’m sure the Jerusalem church lasted until A.D. 70 but what happened to individuals after that I’d like to know. The roman church claims Peter came to Rome and founded their church. The scripture last has Peter at Jerusalem.
Given early Roman persecution of christians, this might make sense. I dunno.
It’s a shame that Jerusalem was destroyed or we’d have better answers to questions such as exactly what the extent of the schism was.
I love the presumption in the title of this thread. This is a work of (my) god, can you prove its not?
Not so sure that I’d call that good theology but I’ll think it over.
never heard of a blessing come from a plant in the scripture, but there is some indication of healing from a plant, the tree of the nations. That could be a blessing but I get the feeling I’m stretching it.
Matter less? Well, some do not agree with others about the name of Yahweh. But, in the midst of people who insist on one thing, well I don’t make much of an issue about it.
It could be a better OP but I thought he kind of implied the OP to make that presumption that Yah works through people to reach other people.
Kind of not a great debate, but up for the question of discussion I kinda figured was whether Yah had used kanicbird to spread his message.
It’s been fun talking about Rastafarians and other stuff too, though.
It kind of reminds me of that kid a few weeks back who thought there was some deep meaning behind the coincidences he was experiencing.
There could be a similarity. I remember posting in the thread; or one like it anyway. As to whether Yah was working through any of them, I’d answer such a question firstly by looking to whether what that person was consistent with other prophets.
Not that I want to get into a big discussion of what that entails. This thread has long gone astray from the OP, and wilfully by the author of the OP, and contributed to by a Mod, so I’m kinda figuring it’s become a grab bag of different ideas about religion.
Directly to the OP, and by means of Occam’s razor as I lack any real evidence, to answer the question as stated in the OP, I’m voting for OpalCat’s point for
BEST ANSWER in the thread, even though someone else I think said this before, more or less.
But we’ve talked about some sideline stuff here that might make interesting threads.
Tell the truth, I’d like to see a thread about the proper application of logical fallacy arguments, ha ha.
I think **Jack Batty **wasn’t correct to characterise the fallacy he describes as, strictly, a “no true scotsman”. Though the parallels between that fallacy and the Scotsman fallacy are pretty obvious.
In a no true scotsman one redefines the proposition to suit the evidence. In the fallacy **Jack **sets out, one redefines the evidence to suit the proposition.
I think it goes like this:
The proposition is that there is a a god which is good and would do good things.
The evidence is that events happen. These events fall into two categories:
1/ Good events: when these events happen I attribute it to this god (because he is good) and use them to imply this god’s existence;
2/ Bad events: when these events happen I attribute it to something other than this god (because he is good) so they have no implications regarding this god’s existence.
Between 1/ and 2/ one is redefining the implications of the evidence based solely on whether it suits the proposition.
Coincidence + Post Hoc = Miracle!
You believe it was God, the words you have read were written by a human being and you choose to believe it was God speaking, God seems to tell other people it is not of his doing but what is in one’s belief system, and that is as much of God speaking as anything or anyone else’s beliefs. The same psalmist says" You are Gods" and Jesus backed this psalmist up, so it is a matter of one’s belief and that is their or your right to believe but, it is proven to be written by a human. So in fact you believe the human that wrote it, that is a choice you can make but it doesn’t mean it is a fact!
What basis do you claim that it was written by humans? Who wrote it? What was his or her name?
I could list a lot I will give two examples.(1) I was driving in my car and Patti Page as singing Cross Over The Bridge, then I did come to a bridge in a few minuets,(2) Then she was singing Detour, and In a few minuets more There was indeed a detour. But there was no muddy road ahead! I don’t think Patti Page was looking out for me! The frame of one’s mind has a lot to do with how they see a miracle or a coincidence.
Yeah, I’ve always wondered why G-d’s miracles are so… small.
Occam’s Razor. Your claim is the one which needs proof. Unfortunately, all you have is circular proof.
What makes even less sense to me, is why God is telling Kbird,such mundane things for the benifit of one person and doesn’t give him the answer to get all people to see things the same way, so they can have facts to rely on, and not just have them believe. Facts do more than beliefs. Perhaps Kbird should have God tell the world how they can get along, without killing each other. And help the terrorists see that what they are doing is also self distructive! And why he allows an evil being to exist, but punishes some people who use the mind he is said to have given them, and can only use Kanicbird,(and very few can think like him)!
I never heard that term, but I think I would like to hear it more often if it is indeed a more accurate term for modern day Christianity.
In may have had something to do with the stoning of Stephen, which seems related to this church. At this time we have the Pharisees (and Paul/Saul) seeing one thing and Stephen seeing something totally different. This is pretty much the duality that I see when reading Paul’s letters.
The term Yankee used to be derogatory, now unless your at a Met’s game it’s not anymore. Meanings change over time.
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It’s been my experience that you can know just ask God and He will show you. It is His promise in scriptures. Now how He does it is up to Him, He may even give you scientific proof, I don’t know.
Did you ever hear of thoughts Of grandeur? This sounds like that to me.
Because God does not want us to depend on facts, but the relationship between God and man.
The OT system is based on rules and regulations, the Law etc. But we were meant and designed not to follow the Law, but to try new things without bounds, to learn and explore, to ever experience new and wonderful things. To God we are but infants learning how to crawl. What is impossible for us now will not forever be, but hard laws and what we think are facts limit us hinder our growth and prevent us from seeing outside the box we have crawled into. It comes from all things are possible with God, though He has to take us there when we are ready.
The way was made clear by Jesus.