The “all-forgiving” part comes in by God having sent Jesus at all. He still is painted as getting pissed at us humans for continuing to fuck up even when we’re Christians and know what Jesus suffered for each of our sins - past, present, and future ones we’re yet to commit, so those sins burden him back in the past and we know it. He’s also pissed at those who don’t believe when you preach to them, those who don’t condemn sin(ners) when they see it - love the sinner, hate the sin, sure, but those who still desire those of their own gender obviously aren’t repentant like God requires.
Missed Ollie’s post - the United Church of Christ (not Church of Christ), a Protestant Christian branch, is gay-friendly enough to the point where gays and lesbians can be ordained as ministers, and they will perform gay and lesbian commitment ceremonies, or marriages where legal.
You are not understanding me–this guy, David, had issues with his adoption. He felt abandoned and second best. Yeah, he might have had emtional issues anyway, but we will never know that, since his issue was with his adoption and we can’t go back in time and make him be a part of his birth mother’s family. How hard is this concept to get?
It may not be a huge issue for you or for many, many others, but it is for some people. That’s a fair statement and you refusal to see that leads me to look askance at your POV.
Sorry about the mix up re the rainbows and puppies.
And frankly, to yank this thread back on topic, IMO, the attitude of some “christians” or “religious” people, no matter what faith background to homosexuality is horrible, wrong and destructive. I’m with Lewis Black–I hope St Peter looks like the gayest of gay hairdressers, when the Call comes…it seems to me that homophobia is a holdover from a time when the cultural more was to increase your tribe as quickly as possible. Not needed these days.
Not at all, I just disagree with it. I believe the only reason David had issues with his adoption in the first place was that a bunch of people around him turned it into a big issue. Genetic heritage is really a nonissue and should be treated as such. If the general feeling in society was that it doesn’t matter, it wouldn’t matter.
The only times it does matter is when you need to know if you are carrying some hereditary disease or the like.
Orthodox Judaism is not particularly accepting of homosexuality, but remember, it’s not the only game in town as far as Judaism goes. It’s a subject for debate in Conservative Judaism (I hope they eventually go toward being more accepting), and Reform Judaism is accepting of gays.
To me the people who practice these rediculous religious beliefs are very much in the same league as witch burners. It all makes about the same amount of sense when you boil it down.
It’s been a busy year.