Here is the first ZPE patent ever! Very exciting news and looks very convincing! I’ve been following Bearden’s work for about 5 years or so and this is really serious stuff. Five of these together would power an entire house without any other source needed if you feed the output back into the machine.
Question: Is there a consipiracy to block this type of technology?
I seriously need an “idiot’s guide” to understand how this works. 
Call me a second law of thermodynamics traditionalist but I smell something fishy. First, you don’t need to demonstrate that an invention works to get a patent. The patent office does not consider perpetual motion machines such as over unity devices but it may not have been presented as that. If I’m not mistaken this is a bit of flim-flam that “proves” overunity by misrepresenting the charge and discharge curves of coils and capacitors and by comparing nubers that don’t have a proper context to each other.
I like the quote in what they don’t want you to know about electrical circuits that says “10 TRILLION PERCENT OF THE CURRENT PRODUCED IS WASTED!” Uh huh. That goes a bit beyond coach telling the team to give a mere 110%.
You don’t need an idiots guide to how it works because it doesn’t work. They claim to have demonstrations but don’t show them. If they have a patent they have protection. If there big energy conspiracy against them this guy would be sharing a room with Jimmy Hoffa instead of selling his bool-puckey books and videos online.
If you looked more closely at that patent you’d see that it was two years old. Not exactly breaking news.
I don’t believe in zero point energy myself, but if you want to jump into the pond of true believers, the ZPEnergy - The Energy of The Future site is the place to go.
Idiot’s Guide indeed!
It looks like it’s just a modern version of the classic “Perpetual Motion Machine” gimmick. The only thing that you need to understand is that it is impossible to create energy out of nothing. It just can’t happen.
The zeropoint page had a prominent link in the upper left hand corner, so I clicked it.
I discovered a page that linked to some sort of magnet invention that claimed a 100% cure rate for terminal cancer. Another item, which I didn’t bother looking at, was how to deactivate nuclear waste in 9.1 minutes.
Thank’s for being my morning’s entertainment.
Zero point energy esists, or at least there are “zero point fluctuations” that cause the casimir effect. ( http://physicsweb.org/article/world/15/9/6 describes the casimir effect)
However, I don’t believe that anyone has been able to use this for any energy generation purposes.
ZPE does exist, it’s a well accepted physical theory supported by observation. However it’s still up for debate whether ZPE can be thought of as ‘real energy’ or whether it can be used for practical purposes. Anyone who suggests that they have found a way to harness it that is both theoretically sound and practically feasible at this time has the probabilty of being a crackpot equal to unity.
The “MEG” is a fraudulent device. It only appears to be generating more power than it consumes when you use sloppy methods to measure the input and output power. It’s been discredited for a while.
http://www.phact.org/e/z/bearden.htm
http://www.phact.org/e/z/BeardenReview.htm
http://www.randi.org/jr/052402.html
Claims like this have been around almost as long as people have been around to make them. It’s all rubbish.
There’s no need to debate it. Just be patient and wait. Wait until they are giving demonstrations that their machines work to people who are in a position to evaluate the claims properly. Wait until their machines are seen to be contributing to the energy needs of a factory or a town. Wait until their papers explaining the technology are appearing in peer-reviewed journals such as ‘Science’ and ‘Nature’. Wait until these guys are collecting their Nobel prizes for their wonderful contributions to human knowledge and to the world’s energy problems. Wait until they are selling their technology on a commercial basis to satisfied customers, such as third-world energy providers. In short, wait until they have proved their case. When that day comes, these guys can ridicule myself and others with a healthily skeptical attitude, and we will have to eat crow and admit we were wrong.
Until then, I say it’s rubbish, common sense say’s it’s rubbish, science says it’s rubbish and all but the whackiest fringe of the scientific and technological community says it’s rubbish.
I’ve followed Bearden and ZPE for a little while now, but haven’t seen anything worth selling the farm for yet. The patent is interesting, though, b/c it gives an explanation for the process that I’ve never seen before:
So, nonsense or not, it at least gives an idea I hadn’t heard before (even in his own earlier discussions of the MEG): the MEG demagnetizes permanent magnets, using their magnetic flux as a sort of fuel to generate electricity. An interesting notion, anyway. I wonder how much juice he reckons a magnet is storing.
Actually, it’s a crock. But if you’ve got money you’re just dying to invest, I’m going to be sending some fruit-filled pastries aloft. The rate of return will be phe-no-menal. Get out your checkbook. My organization is called the Consortium for the Advancement of Scientific Hope, but you can just use the group’s initials on your check.
Yes. It’s called “the physical laws of the universe.”
This isn’t even the first zero-point patent. I don’t know when the first one was, but I saw them come up when I was a freshman in college, in 1995. And I suspect that they date back to the origins of modern quantum field theory.
It is possible for a device to produce more output power than input power, but it can’t do it continuously. For instance, if you run a 1 horsepower motor for ten seconds to spin up a flywheel, and then spin the flywheel down in a single second, you can (in principle) get 10 horsepower out of spinning it down (actually less, because of inefficiencies, but you can still get well more than 1 hp). But that 10 horsepower only lasts for a second, while you had to spin the thing up for ten seconds. Total energy (not power) in and out is the same. You could also say that the average power input and output is the same, if you average over an appropriate time period.
Incidentally, the permanent magnet which is claimed to be the energy source should properly be considered to be inside the system, in which case this is a closed system and can’t produce net energy output.
General rule of thumb for these types of devices: As a prominent physicist once said, “I’ll believe in cold fusion when someone drives up to me in a car powered by it”. This applies to all of these supposed sources for cheap or free energy.
Ianzin, the reason not to wait till it actually works is, that you would miss out on the investment opportunities!
Convincing? Convincing? Convincing to who?
Really?
Really?
No. There is just a conspiracy of a few to try to sell this as “technology” and get people to part with their money.
The technology doesn’t work. It’s a scam. And I think you know it.
Here’s what the highly respected physicist Matt McIrvine has to to say:
This appears to be very similar to what our own highly respected pysicist Chronos said.
Keep in mind that there’s a hell of lot of energy in a constant temperature heat bath but there’s no way to extract this energy without a temperature/energy differential. And there’s the rub. There’s no way to get from .5hw (zero point energy) to zero continously.
More like 1- (an arbitrarily small quantity). Despite the attractiveness of free energy to crackpots, there does exist some tiny chance that there’s a useable effect here.
Yes, but that tiny chance is exactly equal to the difference between .999… and 1. 
The trouble with the new board format is that you can’t look at the post count for Guests. I’d bet that back_online has a post count of one. In fact, I think this one post should be enough to get him banned, or at least warned. This wasn’t a question - it was an advertisement for a scam.
Gee you folks may be wrong.
I’ve been following back_online’s posts for 5 minutes now and it’s really serious stuff !!!
Okay, I’ll turn the sarcasm machine off. I’ll admit I didn’t even bother clicking on that link because when I read the quote “…without any other source needed if you feed the output back into the machine…”
Yes, that’s always a dead giveaway. Seems like the ideas of Keely and John Newman (and Charles Ponzi) are being diligently carried on by the work of others.