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Old 02-24-2004, 01:32 PM
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Quoting the Post RIGHT BEFORE YOURS in its Entirety: Thanks!

This thread is a thank-you card of sorts to the posters who take the time to quote the post right before theirs in its entirety before adding their replies. Yes, I know I just read the post but you are so thoughtful and perceptive that you know I'm far too busy and important to remember the post I just read so you quote it (all of it, no less) for me.

I'm putting this in the Pit because I'm almost certain some ungrateful Doper will come along and tell you how utterly fucking annoying this practice is. Ignore them, for they know not of what they speak.

So, thank you, dear poster. If it weren't for you, I'd have to do such trivial and mundane things as remember the thread I just read. You, Sir or Madame, are simply indispensable.

To the first poster who takes this post, quotes it in its entirety and adds a pithy reply along the lines of 'you're welcome', well, let me just tell you I find such original and unanticipated humor dead sexy. Dead sexy, I tell ya.
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Old 02-24-2004, 01:38 PM
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This thread is a thank-you card of sorts to the posters who take the time to quote the post right before theirs in its entirety before adding their replies. Yes, I know I just read the post but you are so thoughtful and perceptive that you know I'm far too busy and important to remember the post I just read so you quote it (all of it, no less) for me.

I'm putting this in the Pit because I'm almost certain some ungrateful Doper will come along and tell you how utterly fucking annoying this practice is. Ignore them, for they know not of what they speak.

So, thank you, dear poster. If it weren't for you, I'd have to do such trivial and mundane things as remember the thread I just read. You, Sir or Madame, are simply indispensable.

To the first poster who takes this post, quotes it in its entirety and adds a pithy reply along the lines of 'you're welcome', well, let me just tell you I find such original and unanticipated humor dead sexy. Dead sexy, I tell ya.
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Old 02-24-2004, 01:43 PM
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Just six minutes for an opening premise to be fulfilled in its entirety.

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Old 02-24-2004, 01:50 PM
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Wow, deja vu.

Haven't we already done this twice a few weeks ago? Just asking, not that I disagree.
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Old 02-24-2004, 01:59 PM
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Wow, deja vu.

Haven't we already done this twice a few weeks ago?
Yes, there's been at least two recent pit threads on this.

And again I point out, it's useful to quote who you are responding to, in case another post comes in while you are writing yours. If you don't quote, it can look like you are responding to the post than snuck in while you were writing.

And sometimes, you must quote the whole post for clarity.
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:03 PM
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:07 PM
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That seems clear.
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:08 PM
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a) Yes. Yes, you do, Lobsang.

b) Oh, he's the bringer of something, alright. Karma, it ain't.

c) Sorry. I'm far too busy and important to search for recent threads. Besides, mine's better.

d) Quoting the whole post for clarity? Eh, no. Unless you're quoting three sentences or less, how hard is it to incorporate the salient points into your reply? I understand there are exceptions to every rule.

This is absurd.
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:09 PM
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That seems clear.
No it doesn't. What?
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:15 PM
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And again I point out, it's useful to quote who you are responding to, in case another post comes in while you are writing yours. If you don't quote, it can look like you are responding to the post than snuck in while you were writing.
Yes, indeed! Especially for certain slowpokes among us (ahem) who respond to a post before noticing that the thread has wandered over onto a following page.

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And sometimes, you must quote the whole post for clarity.
Yes, keeping in mind point number one, a pithy but well-aimed dart can look like a blundering anvil of a non sequitur if one or more posts intervene during composition (and preview! And preview, oh, coding clownself!).

With a long post, it helps to quote it, then break it into chunks for each portion of one's answer. Even then, I try to snip out as much as possible, leaving enough gist for my response to make sense. Well, as much sense as I can dredge out of the old frontal lobes, of course.
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:21 PM
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The double whammy! Quoting the entire OP and the post immediately above.

I have to believe that recent explosion of this act is related to the new format. The two "REPLY" buttons are too similar. The old "QUOTE" button inside the post was much better.
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:28 PM
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John Mace, I agree with you. The reply button located inside the post should, indeed, read 'Quote'. The fact that it doesn't is, indeed, a great source of confusion. I hadn't even thought of that before I posted my rant, er, thank-you note.

I willing to cut recent offenders a little slack. I still say that sort of thing is easy to catch if you review your reply before submitting it. But as I am often guilty of not thoroughly reviewing my replies before submitting them, I can only get but so mad, er, thankful.
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:37 PM
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Old 02-24-2004, 02:41 PM
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Hovering your pointer over the inside "Quote" button shows a tag that says "reply with quote". Not really confusing for us unimportant, sedentary types.
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JuanitaTech
This thread is a thank-you card of sorts to the posters who take the time to quote the post right before theirs in its entirety before adding their replies. Yes, I know I just read the post but you are so thoughtful and perceptive that you know I'm far too busy and important to remember the post I just read so you quote it (all of it, no less) for me.

I'm putting this in the Pit because I'm almost certain some ungrateful Doper will come along and tell you how utterly fucking annoying this practice is. Ignore them, for they know not of what they speak.

So, thank you, dear poster. If it weren't for you, I'd have to do such trivial and mundane things as remember the thread I just read. You, Sir or Madame, are simply indispensable.

To the first poster who takes this post, quotes it in its entirety and adds a pithy reply along the lines of 'you're welcome', well, let me just tell you I find such original and unanticipated humor dead sexy. Dead sexy, I tell ya.

You're most welcome.

I shall also explain why I use the "quote" function for 99% of the replies I write.

1. I am dyslexic = I read and write much slower then the average non-dyslexic poster
2. English is a language I didn't leanr = adding that to my handicap,it makes me reading/writing even slower then when I am using other languages.
3. As such, I have also difficulties with holding what I read in every detail in my memory while trying to formulate a readable answer.
4. Thus having that particular post under my eyes is for me indispensable.
5. As others already said: sometimes a thread moves fast which results in other posts appearing between the one you reply to and your reply.
6. Read the above and you shall see why this happens to me frekwently.
7. Add to that the fact that this website can become rather slow, which adds to point 5 happening even more frekwent.
8. Add to points 5,6 and 7 the occasions when I copy/past to and from Word because tehre I can use spell control, which makes points 5,6 and 7 happen even more frekwent.

So when I reply to a whole post, I quote the whole post cutting it in fractions following the issues of my reply.

I'm so sorry you feel insulted by this, yet I can not change it. People already post enough threads to say I'm a completely incoherent and unreadable lunatic, whihc is taking already a lot of bandspace here.. I would appreciate it if you would accept my apologies for the inconvenience of my quoting style.


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Old 02-24-2004, 03:58 PM
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Add to points 5,6 and 7 the occasions when I copy/past to and from Word because tehre I can use spell control, which makes points 5,6 and 7 happen even more frekwent.
What's the word I'm looking for? Irony?
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:55 PM
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I do it because I don't approach the Dope in a task oriented way. I'm a browser. While the reply page is loading, I may be off reading other threads, or reading the news, or checking my email. By the time I make it back, minutes or hours may have passed and I know that if I don't quote, my witty reply will prolly be several posts down from the post I'm responding to.
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Old 02-24-2004, 10:16 PM
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I'm just here to give my support to the anti-quoting-on-the-first-reply-movement.

If you feel you have to quote, there is nothing wrong with editing out the bulk of the message being quoted, juat leave the essence in.
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Old 02-24-2004, 10:32 PM
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So when I reply to a whole post, I quote the whole post cutting it in fractions following the issues of my reply.
I daresay that I don't think this is what the OP is complaining about. It's the people who blindly quote the whole multi-paragraph OP in the first response just to add a one line comment. Throws off the whole thread.
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Old 02-24-2004, 10:56 PM
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Old 02-25-2004, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JuanitaTech
This thread is a thank-you card of sorts to the posters who take the time to quote the post right before theirs in its entirety before adding their replies. Yes, I know I just read the post but you are so thoughtful and perceptive that you know I'm far too busy and important to remember the post I just read so you quote it (all of it, no less) for me.

I'm putting this in the Pit because I'm almost certain some ungrateful Doper will come along and tell you how utterly fucking annoying this practice is. Ignore them, for they know not of what they speak.

So, thank you, dear poster. If it weren't for you, I'd have to do such trivial and mundane things as remember the thread I just read. You, Sir or Madame, are simply indispensable.

To the first poster who takes this post, quotes it in its entirety and adds a pithy reply along the lines of 'you're welcome', well, let me just tell you I find such original and unanticipated humor dead sexy. Dead sexy, I tell ya.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lobsang
Do I make you Horny Baby?! Do I? Yeah!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpeg Jones

Just six minutes for an opening premise to be fulfilled in its entirety.

Lobsang, bringer of karma.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tusculan
Wow, deja vu.

Haven't we already done this twice a few weeks ago? Just asking, not that I disagree.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Revtim
Yes, there's been at least two recent pit threads on this.

And again I point out, it's useful to quote who you are responding to, in case another post comes in while you are writing yours. If you don't quote, it can look like you are responding to the post than snuck in while you were writing.

And sometimes, you must quote the whole post for clarity.

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Originally Posted by lieu
Originally posted by Talking penis
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Originally Posted by gluterious maximus
That seems clear.

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Originally Posted by JuanitaTech
a) Yes. Yes, you do, Lobsang.

b) Oh, he's the bringer of something, alright. Karma, it ain't.

c) Sorry. I'm far too busy and important to search for recent threads. Besides, mine's better.

d) Quoting the whole post for clarity? Eh, no. Unless you're quoting three sentences or less, how hard is it to incorporate the salient points into your reply? I understand there are exceptions to every rule.

This is absurd.
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No it doesn't. What?
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Originally Posted by EddyTeddyFreddy
Yes, indeed! Especially for certain slowpokes among us (ahem) who respond to a post before noticing that the thread has wandered over onto a following page.

Yes, keeping in mind point number one, a pithy but well-aimed dart can look like a blundering anvil of a non sequitur if one or more posts intervene during composition (and preview! And preview, oh, coding clownself!).

With a long post, it helps to quote it, then break it into chunks for each portion of one's answer. Even then, I try to snip out as much as possible, leaving enough gist for my response to make sense. Well, as much sense as I can dredge out of the old frontal lobes, of course.
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mace
The double whammy! Quoting the entire OP and the post immediately above.

I have to believe that recent explosion of this act is related to the new format. The two "REPLY" buttons are too similar. The old "QUOTE" button inside the post was much better
Quote:
Originally Posted by JuanitaTech
John Mace, I agree with you. The reply button located inside the post should, indeed, read 'Quote'. The fact that it doesn't is, indeed, a great source of confusion. I hadn't even thought of that before I posted my rant, er, thank-you note.

I willing to cut recent offenders a little slack. I still say that sort of thing is easy to catch if you review your reply before submitting it. But as I am often guilty of not thoroughly reviewing my replies before submitting them, I can only get but so mad, er, thankful.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gluteus maximus
That seemed clear to me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey1505
Hovering your pointer over the inside "Quote" button shows a tag that says "reply with quote". Not really confusing for us unimportant, sedentary types.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldebaran
You're most welcome.

I shall also explain why I use the "quote" function for 99% of the replies I write.

1. I am dyslexic = I read and write much slower then the average non-dyslexic poster
2. English is a language I didn't leanr = adding that to my handicap,it makes me reading/writing even slower then when I am using other languages.
3. As such, I have also difficulties with holding what I read in every detail in my memory while trying to formulate a readable answer.
4. Thus having that particular post under my eyes is for me indispensable.
5. As others already said: sometimes a thread moves fast which results in other posts appearing between the one you reply to and your reply.
6. Read the above and you shall see why this happens to me frekwently.
7. Add to that the fact that this website can become rather slow, which adds to point 5 happening even more frekwent.
8. Add to points 5,6 and 7 the occasions when I copy/past to and from Word because tehre I can use spell control, which makes points 5,6 and 7 happen even more frekwent.

So when I reply to a whole post, I quote the whole post cutting it in fractions following the issues of my reply.

I'm so sorry you feel insulted by this, yet I can not change it. People already post enough threads to say I'm a completely incoherent and unreadable lunatic, whihc is taking already a lot of bandspace here.. I would appreciate it if you would accept my apologies for the inconvenience of my quoting style.


Salaam. A.

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What's the word I'm looking for? Irony?
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Originally Posted by GMRyujin
I do it because I don't approach the Dope in a task oriented way. I'm a browser. While the reply page is loading, I may be off reading other threads, or reading the news, or checking my email. By the time I make it back, minutes or hours may have passed and I know that if I don't quote, my witty reply will prolly be several posts down from the post I'm responding to.

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Originally Posted by herman_and_bill
I'm just here to give my support to the anti-quoting-on-the-first-reply-movement.

If you feel you have to quote, there is nothing wrong with editing out the bulk of the message being quoted, juat leave the essence in.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmackFu
I daresay that I don't think this is what the OP is complaining about. It's the people who blindly quote the whole multi-paragraph OP in the first response just to add a one line comment. Throws off the whole thread.
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Originally Posted by Some Guy
I'm not clear on that.


Ya know, I REALLY like quotes.
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Old 02-25-2004, 01:19 AM
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Ya know, I REALLY like quotes.
How long did you work on that post?
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How long did you work on that post?
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yeah, that's almost beautiful!

It only took about 5 minutes - I just popped open a new tab for each reply button, and then did some cutting and pasting.
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Ya know, I REALLY like quotes.

How long did you work on that post?

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How long did you work on that post?
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yeah, that's almost beautiful!


It only took about 5 minutes - I just popped open a new tab for each reply button, and then did some cutting and pasting.
Eh, you did it the hard way.
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Old 02-25-2004, 06:46 AM
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Hey, that's a really good idea! If everyone does that, you only have to read the most recent post instead of the entire thread!

If you think the above is serious, please recalibrate your sarcasm-meter on this sentence.
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Old 02-25-2004, 09:44 AM
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Old 02-25-2004, 11:36 AM
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It only took about 5 minutes - I just popped open a new tab for each reply button, and then did some cutting and pasting.
Dear amsodernteRtL, (how's that for 'random'?)

Please spend a little more time, next time, and get the spelling of my username right both times, instead of only one time.

I mean, really!

How difficult is it to cut and paste another Doper's username correctly?
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Old 02-25-2004, 11:42 PM
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gluteus maximus, aren't you being a bit of an ass over a typo?


I kid, I kid... please stop with the hitting, and the tomato throwing, and the ouchies...


Seriously, though, where the hell did gluterious come from? That goes a skosh beyond the realm of typo, dunnit?
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Old 02-26-2004, 12:05 AM
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[Seriously, though, where the hell did gluterious come from? That goes a skosh beyond the realm of typo, dunnit?
Sounds like the name of a gladiator in a Monty Python sketch.
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Old 02-26-2004, 05:22 AM
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If you want to make it clear who you are addressing, simply include their name at the start of your first sentence. Quoting their entire speech is really not necessary. Really.
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Old 02-26-2004, 11:52 AM
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If you want to make it clear who you are addressing, simply include their name at the start of your first sentence. Quoting their entire speech is really not necessary. Really.
Who in the hell are you talking to. Anyhow?
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Old 02-26-2004, 01:12 PM
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There's no happy medium, I tell ya. What drives me up the wall are the posters who'll say "I totally agree with So and So" without quoting, and since I can't remember what So and So said I end up scrolling back 3 pages hunting for it only to find that So and So made some short comment so nondescript that it's no wonder it didn't register the first time I read it.

Arrgh. Quote when you need to, don't quote when you don't need to. How hard is it to tell the difference?
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Old 02-26-2004, 01:57 PM
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I just want to say that I am in total agreement with what Talking penis said.
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Old 02-26-2004, 02:02 PM
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Oh, and Skeezix... no, not at all.

I was being anal.
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I bow to the superior wit. Had I been drinking at just that moment, I'd have had to make yet another of those ruined my monitor/keyboard posts.

I shall assay to nevermore over-analyze the content of your postings.


As it is, I for really and truley sprayed about nine or ten little dots of saliva on my monitor. But that wipes off a lot easier than soda.
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