Really, I don’t get it. Why are you being so…nasty? (Sorry if that choice of words gets me branded “Lame”, but I’ve never pitted a Doper before.)
I get that you don’t believe Fabulous Creature had a horrid experience in a psychiatric hospital. But what’s with the call for personally identifiying information so you can somehow verify his claims? Why the hell should he tell you his address, the names of his doctors or any other private information? What would this gain you?
Several people have chimed in that they had similar experiences and the story isn’t so far fetched. Why do you have to be a dick about it?
Even if it is a total fabrication, so what? You haven’t articulated your actual concern. Are you worried that Fab’s story will scare other people away from getting help? Then why don’t you provide some evidence that this is a statistic anomoly and other hospitals are not like this? (At least two posters in that thread who work at hospitals have done that - why not you?)
I just don’t get why you think **Fab **should tell you any more details than he already has. The Dope is pretty damn good at protecting our privacy, to the level at which we want it protected. Plenty of people won’t even reveal what country they live in, and you want the name and physical decription of his doctor? WTF?
Thanks for starting this, WhyNot, as I was just about to. It’s fair enough if O R doesn’t believe the story, though I find the hyperscrutiny to be a little obsessive - but then he/she squeezes out this nugget:
Am I right in thinking you’re implying that if the story is true, Fabulous Creature should be grateful for his ill treatment?
Obviously, it completely escaped your pea-brained attention that the issue is NOT your disbelief; rather, it’s your persistent dickitude about it. Let me distill the OP for you, since it’s apparently too complex for you to digest on your own:
“Please calm yourself, Doctor McCoy. These passions will be the death of you.”
Why ARE you getting so emotional, might I ask?
I certainly hope my (hopefully highly atypical) experience does not scare anyone away from treatment. But I’ll say this: it scared ME away from treatment involving public health facilities at Memphis. During my assessment Monday morning, the doctor asked me (in response to my complaints about the lack of beds, appropriate diabetes treatment, etc) if I’d be willing to get treatment if I were someplace with a bed. The truest anwer to that was yes, so long as it was outpatient–but I replied No, because I had no more trust in her at that point than I do in Michael Milken.
Thanks, Q.E.D. I’ll have to remember to keep my posts to O.R. down to words of two syllables, and sentances of 10 words or less. Do you think I can stretch it to 15 words if I make sure half of them are invectives?
I’m saying he’s potentially admitted to attempting suicide 3 times, wrecking his car into someone/something, then trying to walk into traffic twice, if I remember correctly. I’m saying I don’t believe his version of events, and he should be grateful for his probably by-the-book treatment that apparently saved his life, as he is complaining about it to this day. I’m saying that the vast majority of people in his boat DON’T GET MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT, and he should be grateful for what he got, but if he is harboring delusions about the quality, we should recognize this and not play along with his fantasy. Or maybe we should, I don’t know what would be best, other than that he seek help from a mental health professional instead of a fucking message board. Either way we don’t know shit about it except that it was written rather poetically, ala a screenplay.
That’s swell. But, I think it was your (some might say) excessive use of the word “fucking” in a single post, which outnumbers your use of “douchebag” three to one, that might lead one to believe you were getting overly emotional about the issue, y’know. Bit too vitriolic not to be a personal issue, IMO.
So you are apparently willing to believe everything that reflects negatively on Fabulous Creature, but nothing that reflects negatively on the facility?
Actually, we know absolutely nothing about your experience regarding mental health issues, and as far as anybody else is concerned, you could equally well be fabricating your information on it.
Regardless of the truth of the matter, on which I withhold judgement, you behaved in a highly obnoxious way in that thread. Acting like an asshole doesn’t do anything for your credibility, especially after Fabulous Creature provided some information that was potentially verifiable.
After I saw these two remarks I knew it was inevitable you would be Pitted:
I didn’t see anywhere that **Fabulous Creature ** questioned the value of mental health care itself, as a scientologist would. This remark is asinine.
Your message seems to be that no matter how bad your treatment is, you should be happy you get any. This is such an irresponsible and reprehensible attitude that it completely invalidates your credibility as a spokesperson for mental health treatment.
My father, cousin, and several friends have all spent time in mental hospitals. I certainly would not have wanted anyone with your attitude associated with their care.
Operation Ripper, I must suggest that you find it too frightening to accept that things like what happened to Fabulous Creature do indeed occur in mental health treatment. Therefore Fabulous Creaturemust be lying!
The description given so totally matches my own experiences with locked wards, psych floors of regular hospitals, and psych triage wings of ERs that I’m certain it occurred exactly as noted. A piece of fiction by someone who hadn’t been there would not have gotten so many of the details right.
And there simply isn’t much need for embellishment.
When FlyingRamenMonster relates tales of abusive & self-centered customers at Burger King, are you going to demand a cite? Express bewilderment that no one has called “bullshit”?
Extraordinary claims need extraordinary support, but Fabulous Creature’s claims are by no means extraordinary.
