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09-21-2006, 11:22 AM
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Survivor: Cook Islands Ep. 2 - "Dire Straights and Dead Weights"
A quick recap of last week's episode to fill up space for the floatovers:
20 castaways! Four tribes! Divided by race! Thrown off a boat! Swimming chickens! Unfunny ethnic jokes involving rafts and rice! Coconuts! Nature footage! Shelter building! "Represent"ing! Chickens escaping! How to cure a headache and tattoo your forehead and cure world hunger using some old guy's bare hands! Combination challenge! Puzzle boats! Chutes and ladders! Puka wins! Hiki loses! Exile Island! Banishment of the chicken thief! Shipwreck Tribal Council set! Sekou voted out!This recap has been brought to you by: the letter "S" (for Survivor, and also Sekou); the number 2; the American Society for the Supremely Gratuitous Overuse of the Exclamation Point (or ASS-GO!); and the Associated Chicken Liberation Union. And now, some info from the Internet (Yahoo! TV), which I will spoiler-box, even though it's pretty useless anyway: SPOILER:
At this point I have nothing else to add except: I think I might be rooting for the chickens. 
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#6
09-21-2006, 02:09 PM
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Ok, for people who loathe being spoiled and who're therefore afraid to see what everyone's so shocked, shocked, I tell you, about, but whose curiosity is nonetheless piqued; it's about the most obvious aspect of this show there could possibly be. . . (And just in case you really still don't want to be told outright, I'll put it in puzzle form)
S _ M _ _ N _ G _ T S V _ T _ D _ F F T H _ _ S L _ N D! No Way! Really?  And rockle, I've actually been worried about those chickens surviving in the wild, seeing as how they're probably domesticated and not used to having to hunt for their food. Pathetic, I know. Go Chickens!
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#8
09-21-2006, 03:06 PM
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 Dammit! Can't you guys wait until the episode has been shown in every time zone on earth before posting spoilers!?
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#10
09-21-2006, 03:29 PM
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It wouldn't be so much of a suprise if you were paying attention at the end of the show. Ya know, the bit they do after they say "Next week, on Survivor"? They actually show a little bit of what is going to happen the next week on survivor. And they don't even use spoiler boxes.
In my opinion, anyone that purposly throws a challenge is an idiot.
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#11
09-21-2006, 05:45 PM
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Yeah, I'm a leettle oversensitive ... sorry, guys! Long week.
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09-21-2006, 06:29 PM
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The "every time zone on earth" phrase should have been a clue. 
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09-21-2006, 07:03 PM
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09-21-2006, 08:05 PM
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Holy crap! What in the hell was that mess? I can't remember anyone ever getting the Space Madness after only six days. SIX DAYS! That's not even long enough for ... I don't know what. Six. Days. Good lord. I don't even think Jeff knew what to say there. I mean, he can't say that it's impossible for someone to "fall in love" on Survivor -- I mean, look at Rob & Amber, or even Jeff & Julie -- but jumping Jesus on a pogo stick. SIX DAYS!
!!!!! This season is AWESOME! So many chickens. So many crazy people. Love it!
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#18
09-21-2006, 08:14 PM
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Here's how I'm looking at the Billy love confession:
Billy strikes me as not being terribly mature, emotionally. He has that air of "big, giant teenager" about him (which, to me, as a person who wouldn't be looking to do much more than have all the hot, stocky mansex I possibly could with him rather than marry him, is endearing), and apparently doesn't have much social experience outside his bandmates. It was obvious to even me (a man who doesn't personally have much social contact with cute young women (thank Og!)) that Candice's "We love you" was a generalized "You're not a horribly bad person like you seem to think your tribemates think you are." To Billy, it was a gen-u-wine person-to-person confession of mad lovin'. Billy needs to get out more, methinks. Even given that, I really like Billy.
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#19
09-21-2006, 08:56 PM
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Anyway, Billy seems alright to me, I guess -- I mean, I'm not going anywhere near the "hot, stocky mansex" thing, but it's a free country and I'm not about to get in your way -- but I'm also not "trapped" on a "deserted" island with him and a small army of cameramen and production staffers for up to 39 days, so I don't know. I think the snoring would drive me batshit, and so would the lounging around while everyone else is at least pretending to do stuff around camp, not to mention that hideous shirt. But since at this point in the game everyone is a potential future vote to give me a million dollars, I think I would do my best to play nice. I just can't understand how anyone who is a professional wrestler and also in a rock band is so socially inept that he can't tell the difference between "fans" and "groupies" and "stalkers" and "true loves." I mean, sometimes the lines are a little fuzzy, but they're not usually perforated. Although, I am neither a rassler nor a heavy metal guitarist, so what do I know? (Hint: Not much.) I'm sticking with the Space Madness Theory, for now. Still, I do think he'd be fun to have a few beers with in Loser Lodge or whatever they call it. And, I love that he appreciates the irony of being ousted at the hands of a guy called Ozzy. So I'm sure he isn't a bad guy at all. (Big ups to J.P. for staying the hell out of the shrapnel from that one, by that way. That might be important later.)
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#20
09-21-2006, 09:34 PM
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Thanks for the welcome in the other thread, guys! I'm proud to be a member of DRECK.
I liked this episode. The challenge didn't seem very hard though. Last week's was tougher by far. That guy Cowboy is a trip! It's about to be team Red Stripe if he keeps rubbing their heads. I'm reserving opinions on the others, but I'm kinda glad they voted off Billy. He seemed lazy from the beginning, and then at the tribal council - WTF? Did you see Jeff's chin hit the sand? Too funny. (I was switching channels back and forth because Earl was on, but I think the commercials were nice to me for change.)
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#21
09-21-2006, 09:50 PM
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Once again, until someone else comes along, here are:
The imitation RICH RANKINGS: FORGOT TO FILE A 1040- I guess you couldn't outwit everyone! Billy: A rocker should know you've got to hide your love away EATING BEEF JERKY- You're still playing, but you're praying for a tribe scramble! Nathan - Still odd man out and you guys barely beat a team that was trying to lose Adam - Two guys voted off by their team for not working and you can't spot the pattern Candice - Lost her chance to be part of the show's first love triangle. Cao Boi - The balance with your team is starting to tip towards annoyance. Start blending in or you're out. WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A MERGE?- Middle of the pack players, the lotta ya! Brad, Jenny, Parvati, Stephannie - You guys were all too quiet this episode. Do something entertaining next week HEY! LOOK AT HIS MOHAWK-You might make the merge, but you're grimacing from the jury row! Jonathan - Doing okay as long as Adam doesn't form a slacker alliance Cecelia - Keeping your options open might be a good strategy for now JP - Might end up taking the hit for Ozzy Rebecca and Sundra - Still in it but you guys need to start winning challenges LOOKING FOR A BIG TOM TO ENGLISH DICTIONARY- Big Tom has spent more combined days on the show than anyone. But he didn't quite grab the brass ring. Ozzy - Sneakiness needs to be a hidden personality trait Becky - Working on an alliance and in a good tribe; good prospects Jessica - Alternative girl is willing to work and avoid making enemies; she's the anti-Courtney ARE YOU A RAT OR A SNAKE?- Reserved for a MAXIMUM of two players. You have to be in the driver's seat for this spot. Christina - Tough and seems to understand how the game is played Jul - Formed an alliance, plays well in challenges, seems popular, and has a hidden immunity.
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#22
09-21-2006, 11:05 PM
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I don't know how smart it is to throw a challenge-- especially when the whole team isn't behind it (well, the whole team minus the target). It's interesting how the guys just assume that their decsions stands.
Yul is great. I knew he'd find the idol. And it looked like the Blacks didn't need Sekou to make fire afterall!  Good show. There sure seem to be a lot of chickens running around!
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#23
09-21-2006, 11:06 PM
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I think this will be my trademarked comment in every season of Survivor.
The firestarter is made of magnesium!  Did you see their flint? Six days, and it's half gone. But there's still a lot of magnesium on the rest. If I ever apply for the show, my audition tape will be a demonstration on how to use a firestarter. Anyway. Throwing the challenge. Does anyone else think that it's better to keep dead weight around so that you can boot him when you legitimately lose a challenge? They're not starving. Billy didn't want to work, but he didn't seem to get into arguments or go out of his way to be annoying. Want to get rid of him? You're not going to win every IC. The time will come. Cece is hot.
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09-21-2006, 11:09 PM
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09-21-2006, 11:50 PM
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The only time it makes sense to throw a challenge is when there are established alliances and a shuffle puts a smaller alliance in a temporary majority over members of the larger alliance. This happened in Africa. But in any other situation, it's foolish.
Suppose they do a merge next week and the four Latinos are merged with the five Asians. Count the numbers and figure out who'll get voted off. Or consider that by getting rid of Billy, the Latinos gave up a chance to get rid of somebody else. The Blacks came in third; if the Latinos had beaten them, they would have had to vote off a member. Based on the current alliance, it probably would have been Nathan. Now decide who was more likely to be a future threat; Billy or Nathan? And this is just doing the numbers and ignoring the whole psychological damage that throwing a challenge can do to a team's morale and trust.
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#26
09-21-2006, 11:59 PM
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Yeah, my Ozzy love is over. That was a dumbass move. Sure, metal dude was annoying and useless, but he was on your side. You can toss him at any time, but throwing a challenge and weakening your side just to toss him is stupid. Especially since it cost him the trust of the cop girl (whose name eludes me).
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#27
09-22-2006, 01:11 AM
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Pretty good episode tonight, but I'm getting tired of these combined challenges. I'd rather see one for reward and a separate one for immunity. Oh well, I'm sure they'll get to that soon.
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#28
09-22-2006, 02:22 AM
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Can I just say that I'd like to vote Becky onto my island? YOW!!
yeah, I'm watching too... Also, that one girl on the hispanic team really needs to lose the gym shorts! (and... I guess don a bikini bottom, if necessary. Though I can live with just losing the gym shorts.) I watch mostly for the strategy.
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#29
09-22-2006, 02:39 AM
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Ozzy is not as cute as I originaly thought. Mostly because he opened his mouth and words came out. Yes Ozzy, you are good at all things survivorlistic, but just because you're good doesn't mean everyone else sucks.
Did anyone tell Billy that he needed to pull his weight? Yul is dreeeeeeeamy.
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#30
09-22-2006, 04:14 AM
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That was funny as shit. So the fat lazy guy tries to convince the women on his tribe to break with the majority to save his ass. Naturally, the best way to ensure their support would be to go all crazy stalker during tribal council. Good thinking, man.
I truly cannot wait until the wrap-up show, if only to see how the producers handle the inevitable restraining order issues. 19 survivors on the podium, with Billy beamed in via satellite? In all seriousness, has that guy never interacted with vapid bimbos before? They love everything, dude. It ain't you. I see next week is the "hot chick works it" episode. Always my favorite. It's interesting to see the dichotomy of the exile island. Every other element of survivor strategy has already been worked to death from every possible angle, so generally people go with the optimal strategic play. But exile island strategy is clearly not nearly as advanced. Here's a hint, people: don't send the smartest people to a deserted island with a hidden immunity idol, clues to its whereabouts, and two days to look for it. Unless, of course, you want them to have immunity.
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09-22-2006, 06:47 AM
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I think it was very early to throw a challenge, and it definitely wasn't the smartest thing to do. But once Billy opened his mouth about Candice, I changed my mind. He wasn't going to be anything but a hindrance, especially if he was all puppy dog about a woman who would likely file a restraining order as soon as she hit the losers' lodge.
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09-22-2006, 06:51 AM
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It's interesting to me how my allegiances on this show change so often and so quickly. Last week I thought Ozzy was the bee's knees; this week I wish he would get a coconut dropped on his head. Last season, I thought Terry was so awesome; by the end, I couldn't even watch any more, because I found him so repulsive. So I can just imagine what it would be like to actually be there with these people in the flesh. I remember when Coby said in Palau that he wanted to push some people into the fire, and I can understand where that came from. And then I think, "It's a good thing I never got picked for this show, even though I auditioned three times. Maybe I'll try out for the Race instead, if I can learn to drive stick." Yeah, right about now, I definitely prefer my view from the cheap seats. Quote:
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#33
09-22-2006, 07:03 AM
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I little inside info: I have some friends in the pro volleyball world, and they tell me that J.P.'s nickname is Bi P. I'm not interested in gossipy stuff like that, but just in case anyone else is.
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09-22-2006, 07:26 AM
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09-22-2006, 08:01 AM
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I just think it was a waste of time and energy to come up with this challenge-throwing strategy, then trying to convince the girls to go along, when they could have done probably 50% less work by letting Billy dig his own hole. Ask him to help, and then when he doesn't, point out how he's not being a team player even when he was asked nicely to help around camp. Then, at Tribal Council, let Jeff wail on him. It's all about the power of suggestion. Ozzy's endgame strategy is underdeveloped at this point, I think. He's using the "Terry Overbearance Technique," which has not worked yet, as far as I can tell. Too many feathers will be ruffled, especially once we whittle down from four tribes to two, and then down to only one.
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#36
09-22-2006, 08:10 AM
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Man - had a lotta opinions forming about Billy, but I didn't realize he was a full-fledged looney! Wonder what TPTB are doing to deprogram him - or warn Cnady, before she hits the loser's lodge. (Of course, the possibiity exists that LAFS actually occurred between the 2 of them! Ya think?)
Never woulda guessed chicken hunting was so easy. I think the lady cop would get on my nerves - just seems to have a deep cop-authority streak that would not do too well over long periods. And what's with the white prettyboy getting all pissy about building the floor, when he didn't have any alternative plans. Yul looks like quite the player. Hope he doesn't get Hunterized. Looks to be smarter than Terry. Agreed with you all - intentionally losing the challenge was boneheaded - could have really dealt the black tribe some major hurt. And, like you said, could always jettison him when you actually lose (and those tarps would come in handy!) But I wonder if we didn't get a true sense of how completely batshit crazy metal-Bill was. Any thoughts on the "tie"? Not sure how there could be a perfect tie. Should they have a better way of documenting the finish other than JP's eyeball reviewed by (apparently) questionable tape? I expected them to give each tribe 1 tarp instead of 2 each.
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#37
09-22-2006, 08:16 AM
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But then I remembered the other guy was also very vocal about booting Billy. (Booting Billy would be a good name for Billy's next band.) I can see the guys turning Cece against Candice. Candice and Cece can vote against the guys and force a tie. But I think Cece will go for the numbers. Turning the other guy (whose name I don't remember) against Ozzy ain't gonna happen. I'm sure he doesn't want to be outnumbered by the women. So the guys will vote against Candice, and get Cece to vote with them. If they lose another IC before a merge, Candice is gone.
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#38
09-22-2006, 08:16 AM
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It did, however, look like food was plenty. I would think it would always be good to have a convenient target other than yourself around. And I wonder how prospective allies post-merge will view the Latinos' willingness to throw a challenge so early...
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#39
09-22-2006, 08:24 AM
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I missed the first 15 minutes of the show. Was it just me or did the black team have like zero screen time?
When Billy dropped that "love at first sight" bomb, I was confused at first. I thought he was referencing something that happened off-camera, because I had no idea where all of this was coming from. But then I realized he was talking about the said-out-of-pity "We love you" that Candice gave after the challenge and it hit me: the guy has major psychological issues. Poor thing. Talk about delusional.
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#40
09-22-2006, 08:32 AM
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That's what I don't like about 4 teams. One hour just isn't enough to cover the bases well.
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#41
09-22-2006, 08:47 AM
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The black team got all their screen time in the first 15 minutes, much of which was spent starting their fire. So it was just you. (sorta)
The part that really bugged me was the editorial choice to have SO MUCH screen time dedicated to the "do we or don't we throw the challenge", then they throw the challenge (in a way that seemed obvious enough to me that I hope someone from another team speculates on it onscreen next week), then Billy makes a last dash effort to not get voted off, then they have tribal council and Billy solidifies the whole --why do we want him on our team thing. Overkill. Way overkill. Show some more of the other teams, please.
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09-22-2006, 08:59 AM
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09-22-2006, 09:05 AM
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The way he lacked any social skills - not making eny effort to impress/help his team, and slipping into stalker mode - made me wonder if he inhabits a subculture that effectively insulates him from the way folks interact out here in the rest of the world.
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#44
09-22-2006, 09:11 AM
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Word to that, Eureka. I'd really like a little more exposition with the white and black tribes, both of which seem pretty useless to this point. The black tribe just can't seem to get it together during the challenges, and the white team can't make the tiniest decision at camp without going at each other's throats. Here's a tip to the younger white guy: When "Flicka" seems more mature and rational than you, it's time for a little self-examination. Build yourself a rock garden and work on finding your "center."
We saw the Asians and Hispanics snag a chicken or two, does that mean the other two tribes didn't do that? Did they even think of it? I'm rooting for tha Asians so far. Smart, strong team that's getting along for the most part. I think they need to get over Cao Boi's sense of humor though and just let him fly that jackass flag. Word to everyone who said the losing teams need to stop sending the smart strong players to Janu Island. As soon as Jeff asked them to choose I was shouting "FLICKA! FLICKA!" Alas, they didn't hear me. My wife and I were both half asleep during TC (watching it late after putting the baby to bed and watching The Office), and we had to zip back and hear it again when Metal Billy professed his love for Candice. Bill, you're lazy enough to fit in with that team, but I still don't think you have a shot, man. After he explained himself we went back and zaprudered the little moment between the two of them, and while it was weird the first time, it was extra weird and hilarious watching it again knowing what was running through his metal-addled mind.  I'm torn on the whole challenge-throwing thing. It was a stupid move strategically, but I'm almost a little glad it happened because it looked like the black team would lose again. Is it just me, or do they seem feel like they're representing their race more than the other teams. The white team for example either doesn't talk about it or doesn't give a rat's ass. They're not representing anyone, they're just 5 jackasses on a TV show, and they seem to know it. The black team doesn't appear to have this liberty, and I'd imagine that kind of thinking can weigh you down a little. I hope they can pick it up soon.
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#45
09-22-2006, 09:12 AM
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The husband was 'dvr'ing (though I think this is not supposed to be used as a verb) both The Office and My Name is Earl, so I completely missed this!
Awe, sounds like it was a lot of fun! Do they show repeats?
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#47
09-22-2006, 09:32 AM
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09-22-2006, 09:38 AM
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This season of Survivor may be unique in that in every previous season, I've found at least one person I could root for. Of course, often that person was voted off very early on, but at least they EXISTED. This time, I couldn't care less. That's not to say I don't find this season interesting, because I do...but I don't care who wins it, frankly.
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#49
09-22-2006, 09:59 AM
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I'm wondering.... For the last few series the tribes have been supplied with a basic food. Sacks of rice or corn, something like that. And to a large degree that was all they ate. But watching a tribe sit around on its collective ass until it's time to scoop some rice into the pot is nowhere near as interesting to watch as the tribe having to get out and hunt or trap their food, with the risk of failing and going hungry. So I'm wondering if they crew didn't happen to turn a couple dozen chickens loose on the island. Or maybe turning a few loose every couple of days. Just to make things more interesting for us.
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#50
09-22-2006, 10:08 AM
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Booting Billy is a strategic mistake, but they did give Billy plenty of chances to fit in. He didn't even bother to come to the tree mail, that's weak. Ozzy is egotistic and immature, but a few sleepless nights around a snorer can understandably drive him nuts. Go Yul! Way to figure out the clues. Let's hope you are more successful with the idol than the last two guys who found it.
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