I've been outed!

Hmmmm. Where to begin? Let’s start at the end and ramble a bit getting somewhere close to the beginning at some point.

My next door neighbor outed me to my mom. I’m not particularly bothered by it. My mom is a sweet, Christian lady who happens to listen to vile human beings. Today I asked her where she’d like to visit. She said Israel, but not alone. She’d want to be part of a tour group led by John Hagee. For those who don’t know, John Hagee is the glutonnous, latent homosexual preacher that said God sent Hurricane Katrina to destroy New Orleans because of the debauchery found there. Nevermind that Katrina left the French Quarter, the most debauched section of New Orleans,in tact. How my mom can be so good and listen to people so vile is vexing. When I told Samantha yesterday about the outing she said, “I’ve met your mom. She doesn’t have a mean bone in her body. You’ll be fine.”

By the way, I have no inside knowledge proving Hagee is gay, but he pegs my gaydar. One only needs to google his image to see that he is a glutton.

Let’s rewind the tape back a month before all of this drama happened. The SO and I are happy in our barn. We’ve been living there for 8 months. The barn is about 75 yards from my mom’s house. By the way, we live in a finished barn; there’s nothing unusual about that, OK? Neither I nor the SO have been further out west than Louisiana and are about to embark on a month-long exploration of the western US.

Mom hugs us bye, prays a blessing that we have a good trip, and waves bye as we head out in a packed Toyota Corolla. Nothing to see here. Typical gay couple with in denial parent living their happy lives.

Three weeks into our trip I receive a call from my brother. “That’s odd”, I think. My brother never calls me. We jam together. I play guitar. He plays drums. We shoot the breeze. We don’t talk on the phone. He never calls. And yet I get a call from him. He asks me how things are going and when I’m coming back. I tell him briefly about the trip and tell him we’ll be heading back in about a week. I get the feeling he has something he wants to tell me but write it off to the fact that he is in the process of getting a divorce.

The last week of our trip goes by and we check out of the Days Inn in Nashville, TN heading for south Alabama. I receive a call on the way. It’s my brother. I’m like, that’s weird. We chat a while and then he says, “Mom came by and said Mrs. C (henceforth known as “the bitch”) came by and said that she had proof that you were a homosexual. Mom came by and asked me if I knew anything about it. I answered honestly we’d never talked about it. Mom then told me how “The Bitch” presented the possibility to her. “The Bitch” came over to Mom’s house and said, ‘You are Levi. You don’t take care of your house or your family.’” My mom told my brother she was going to ask me about it when I got home. My brother told me he didn’t want to ruin my trip that’s why he waited to tell me on the way home. I thought that was nice.

Yesterday, we made it home. My mom had cooked chicken, my SO’s favorite. She fixed a delicious meal. She hugged us both. We visited awhile. We went to the barn glad to have avoided drama for the day.

I told my SO that if Mom and I were gonna have the chat I’d like to have it sooner than later. I told him that I was going to give Mom plenty of opportunity to talk today. Now for the anti-climax. Nothing has happened. There’s been no talk, no insinuation that there’s something that needs to be talked about. Nothing. Things have been normal. My mom is strong-willed. I don’t think that she’s forgotten about the issue. I assume she’s ruminating on it.

I’m going to tell The Bitch off early next week. I’ve been thinking on it, and I don’t see a downside to it. Though I am open to the opinions of the Teeming Millions. I’ll let y’all know how it goes.

No, don’t tell her off! Ask her out! Tell her your girlfriend just broke up with you and you have always thought she was kind of cute. It will freak her out really badly!

Option B: don’t bother to be bothered until someone else is bothered, but rather live your life assuming everything is hunky-dory. Not a ‘don’t ask-don’t tell’, but rather the opposite- live the way you are, assume everything is out in the open, and act surprised if anyone addresses the issue. It’s more painful for them if they have to bring it up.

Plus, consider the bonus possibility- perhaps your mother has considered all the possibilities, and concluded that she’s fine with things as they are - maybe she doesn’t need a full-on confrontation, where she has to choose sides and develop a stance, but rather some time to quietly get her head around things as they are.

My lovely and talented mother has gone through similar changes over buddhist, catholic, divorced, living in sin, out o’ wedlock and gay issues in the last two decades, and has done much better with a nonconfrontational approach. About 5- 10 years later she casually says - “what a nice couple jane and janet are”, or some similar code that indicates that she’s worked it out.

You know not what you suggest. She’s a shrivelled old lady who pretends like she’s my mom’s friend. She has three children and plenty grandchildren but they never come to visit her because she is so loathsome. She’s holy and religious and wraps herself in sanctimony. ICK.

I’m really considering this. But this bitch SO needs to be told off. She told my mom pretending to be helpful but reallly she was trying to be hurtful. You have to know her. She told a man dying of cancer that it was all his fault and he needed to confess. He told a lady who’s son drowned that it was God’s will. She’s mean, vindictive, and altogether dispicable. I think I can really drive home how evil she is. I know it’s got to hurt that her kids don’t come see her and I could really rub that in. It might be petty, but it’s not like she’s a withered lady who minds her own business. She’s a snotty lady who is always trying to hurt people—but wrapping it up in religion.

I don’t think people like that will be affected. She’ll dismiss it as the words of a sinner trying to strike at one of God’s people or whatever. If you want to throw in a “at least I visit my mother, I love her” that’s fine, but I doubt she’ll be affected for long. Bitter, sanctimonious people find ways to deflect criticism.

Meh. I can’t see any upside. All you’ll do is get your blood pressure up and give Mrs. Cranky-pants (that is what “Mrs. C” stands for, right?) the joy of feeling that she’s superior to you.

Your mom is too busy to talk about it because she is busy praying her little head off asking God to fix you.

Or, alternatively, she’s going to end up being cool with it.

But, I’m just worried that one day you and the SO are going to come home to a white van in the driveway and a bunch of nice “ex gay” men who are ready to take you off to be saved. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that :frowning:

BTW isn’t Hagee anti-Semitic? What exactly does he do when he goes to Israel?

Hmmm. Well, maybe you should look up the scriptures on gossiping. Then quote them to her and tell her you fear for her soul due to her gossiping and will be praying for her.

I really am listening to what you guys are saying. I am working through this. This lady likes to tell people what to do. She likes to be in spiritual authority over people. I think she is trying to spiritually dominate —if that makes any sense.

She, Mom, and I were watching a movie based on true events about 2 months ago. After the movie, I browsed through the DVD’s menu and brought up the follow-up blurbs. My mom asked me to read them out loud and I did. My brother started messing with the volume and I paused. Mrs. C started “helping” me out, telling me how to pronounce some simple word. I stopped, looked at her, and said, “I know how to pronounce xxxxxx. I am a college graduate.” She looked at me with pure hatred. She had been interupting during the entire movie, explaining things. Neither mom nor I had mentioned it. We had just endured it. It sounds petty, but you can’t imagine the look she gave. I really think that this is part of it. You wouldn’t think someone would be so petty, but people can be.

I think a confrontation would be helpful. Sounds silly, but I think she’s a bully of sorts.

I think this lady will be happier, because she got you pissed off and will then gloat after a confrontation. It sounds like your mother didn’t supply her with what she enjoys.

I agree. Don’tconfront her. that’s what she’s hoping for. Smile, be pleasantly non-committal, and wait for her head to explode.

She wants to stir up trouble. Don’t give her the satisfaction. Right now you’re letting her take up space in your brain. Move her out of there and go on with your happy life. You won’t change her, you’ll only prove to her how awful you are and how right she was to say something about it. Just let her keep wondering why things didn’t blow up as she was hoping they would.
As for your mother, maybe she needs a little time to process things, but maybe she just would rather not make a big deal out of it. It’s been working for her (and for you with her) so far. I don’t think you’ll do anybody any favors by giving the neighbor lady more reason to make it a big thing.

She’s a Pharisee. Give her the Gospel quote about beautiful tombs on the outside full of decay & corruption on the inside. Or the one about seeing splinters in other people’s eyes but not the wooden beam in her own. When you think it’s appropriate.

Some of the Christians in the States would make Christ himself cringe & shake his head…

-trupa, a conservative catholic with sympathy for you & your plight. Good luck.

The best revenge is a life well-lived.

Good luck!

I would send her a fruitcake. And no I don’t mean you. Teasing, just teasing.

I’ve known people like that for my entire life, my family’s pastors wife is similar. The best thing to do is just ignore it and go on with your life.

BTW, how was the trip? I’d love to take a month long vacation.

Probably tries to encourage the extremist factions to storm the Temple Mount to bring about Armageddon. That’s the eventual plan, anyway.

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But if you do decide to tell her off feel free to come back here and share the details. :wink:

And this:

How about: “Well of course I am. And very happy. I’m just surprised, though, Mrs. C. I was brought up to think that sex is a private and special matter and not something to be discussed with the neighbors, or anyone not directly involved. I have my mother to thank for that.”

I can assure you you’re mom hasn’t forgotten it. Mine was really calm when I was outed (which happened when she read a letter I had written to a cousin). All was awkward normal for a couple of weeks then all hell broke loose. Go ahead and pick out a “safe house” with a friend or relative in case you need to leave her property for a while, and try hard to forgive anything that comes out of her mouth during the confrontation, especially if she never asks your forgiveness.

As for Bitch, she should pray that the atheists are right or that (to paraphrase Thomas Jefferson speaking about slave owners [including himself) ’ that God is not just’, for if “He” is the only part of her likely to reach heaven is her screams. What really kills me about those who follow Hagee on homosexuality is that Jesus Christ never said JACK about homosexuality and yet in three (3) (iii) [THIS MANY ///] of the canonical gospels he states absolutely that if a man divorces his wife it is a sin for him to remarry while she lives and that if he does then he is an adulterer and so is his wife; John Hagee’s first marriage broke up because of his affair with a parishioner in the 1970s and he’s remarried. I’ve never heard him asked about the issue (though he only goes on “safe” shows) or his followers speak to the issue, but essentially those who listen to him are listening to a church presided over by an adulterer and a whore (in biblical terms- not mine) and don’t seem bothered by it. Fucking hypocrites.