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Old 10-21-2010, 05:50 PM
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Can a dead man come?

Mick and I were talking, and he said he knew a girl who could make a man ejaculate (but not exactly in those words) even when dead. If you had access to appropriate parts, including prostate, seconds after heart failure, would it happen?
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:10 PM
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The Jagger is a philosopher, not a medical doctor. Take all he says regarding physiology with a grain of salt.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:23 PM
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The Jagger is a philosopher, not a medical doctor. Take all he says regarding physiology with a grain of salt.
But, when I had a fever, he prescribed me more cowbell and everything was okay.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:29 PM
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The Jagger is a philosopher, not a medical doctor. Take all he says regarding physiology with a grain of salt.
But he is acquainted with Keith Richards.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:40 PM
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Mick and I were talking, and he said he knew a girl who could make a man ejaculate (but not exactly in those words) even when dead. If you had access to appropriate parts, including prostate, seconds after heart failure, would it happen?
I have found it difficult, but not impossible myself. Being the dead man that is. She wouldn't be known as "Kat" would she?

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Old 10-21-2010, 09:24 PM
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Try the Mars Bar.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:25 PM
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The Jagger is a philosopher, not a medical doctor. Take all he says regarding physiology with a grain of salt.
Jagger was quoting Lucille Bogan.

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ko2VXpW7_g (Link broken for obvious reasons).
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Old 10-23-2010, 07:08 PM
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Sir Mick was using his poetic license. There may be some physiological grounding, though.

At least a decade ago, I read an account of a female jail inmate who had fatally stabbed a jail guard and escaped. After her arrest, she claimed the guard had coerced her into a sex act. The dead guard had semen on him, which her defense counsel said proved her claim. The medical examiner said men sometimes ejaculate during violent death. I vaguely remember the court found for the inmate, though.

I have no cite, nor any further information. I can say I'm not making it up, but I won't be offended if you don't believe me.
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Old 10-23-2010, 07:56 PM
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Sir Mick was using his poetic license. There may be some physiological grounding, though.

At least a decade ago, I read an account of a female jail inmate who had fatally stabbed a jail guard and escaped. After her arrest, she claimed the guard had coerced her into a sex act. The dead guard had semen on him, which her defense counsel said proved her claim. The medical examiner said men sometimes ejaculate during violent death. I vaguely remember the court found for the inmate, though.

I have no cite, nor any further information. I can say I'm not making it up, but I won't be offended if you don't believe me.
Believe or not believe, that person would still be alive while ejaculating.
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Old 10-24-2010, 05:53 PM
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It is possible to use medical procedures to retrieve semen from a recently dead man (for use in artificial insemination). But I don't think it's accurate to say that the deceased has "come" in the normal sense of the word.
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Old 10-24-2010, 08:06 PM
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'E's not dead, 'e's just restin: addenda to OP

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Jagger was quoting Lucille Bogan.

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ko2VXpW7_g (Link broken for obvious reasons).
What a great song, and exactly to OP. And shows how steeped in the blues Jagger was/is than other players. [pls. don't turn this into a who's better than who thread, unless they have something to do with OP ]
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I have three more questions along the OP line. Two are spoilers and moments from a fine and fun movie, good for the whole family; the third is part of what some might consider a TMI.
SPOILER:
1. Can an unconscious man come?
2. Can a man w/o testicles come?
3. Can a man "come" blood, i.e., have a lot of blood be ejaculated?

from: Antichrist

From the real world:
On two separate occasions, after a pleasant toe-bumping, the condom was red with blood, [on the inside, natch] presumably mine. Needless to say, I was terrified, but my internist said it was "just" a capillary on the inside of my penis that had burst. The second time, a different internist said the same.

How common is this?
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:17 AM
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2. Can a man w/o testicles come?
Yes. Ejaculate has very little to do with the testes. Almost the entire volume of ejaculate is prostatic fluid, with the testes only supplying spermatozoa. There may be millions in a shot, but they are really small.
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3. Can a man "come" blood, i.e., have a lot of blood be ejaculated?
Hematospermia is not unknown, and is generally due to burst blood vessels from trauma or infection somewhere in the prostate, urethra or seminal vesicles. It is unlikely to be copious volumes, though - you would probably have direct bleeding from the urethra to produce the effect you describe during an orgasm. It should be checked out - hematospermia can be caused by an STI like chlamydia.

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Old 10-25-2010, 05:41 PM
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Wouldn't it depend on "how" dead they are? I.E. how recently, and by what means?
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:58 AM
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FWIW, sf writer Joe Haldeman once wrote in a short story ("A Separate War") about a very sexually-excited man ejaculating, without any external stimulation, as he died from a stab wound given to him by the woman he was chasing with the intention of raping her. Don't know if that's medically sound or not.

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Old 01-30-2011, 11:01 AM
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According to Mary Roach, stimulation of the vagus nerve will cause an orgasm, even if the person is dead.

Video here: http://factlets.info/BigO

It's possible it only applies to females, though.

More research definitely needs to be done in this area.
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:14 AM
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According to folklore the mandrake root grows where a hanged man's semen drips onto the ground. Not exactly science.

I've seen a lot of dead bodies. None of them have ejaculated.
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Old 01-30-2011, 01:00 PM
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I've seen a lot of dead bodies. None of them have ejaculated.
Perhaps you're just not trying hard enough.
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Old 01-30-2011, 01:25 PM
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According to folklore the mandrake root grows where a hanged man's semen drips onto the ground. Not exactly science.
Not science, indeed, but a MD friend of mine mentioned that it's not rare for men who hang themselves to ejaculate.

Indeed, wasn't there a wave a few years back of guys who would hang themselves "just enough" to have a great orgasm?

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Old 01-30-2011, 01:59 PM
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...Indeed, wasn't there a wave a few years back of guys who would hang themselves "just enough" to have a great orgasm?
David Carradine among them, according to some reports: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoerotic_asphyxiation
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Old 01-30-2011, 02:14 PM
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Indeed, wasn't there a wave a few years back of guys who would hang themselves "just enough" to have a great orgasm?
Indeed, some of them hanged themselves just a little too much.
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:14 PM
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Indeed, some of them hanged themselves just a little too much.
You can't always get what you want.
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:58 PM
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You can't always get what you want.
Wonderful recapitulation!

Given the recent comments above, can a dead man's penis be brought to erection? In the movie, the guy is unconscious and ball-crushed (I told you, Cannes winner!)* yet there he goes, being masturbated and spouting blood.

I have this feeling that there's a thread hanging around (started by me?) on the myth/non myth of dead men coming. Ah, so much to know, so little time.

*Never could get these ferners.

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Old 02-15-2013, 12:25 PM
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According to folklore the mandrake root grows where a hanged man's semen drips onto the ground. Not exactly science....
The same folk tale is repeated in Napoleon's Buttons: How 17 Molecules Changed History by Penny Le Couteur and Jay Burreson, which I just read.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:30 PM
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Indeed, some of them hanged themselves just a little too much.
I guess they didn't do it, errr, well.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:57 PM
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Well, the zombies just keep coming, do the undead qualify ...

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Old 02-15-2013, 03:34 PM
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According to this recent article (with video), dead alligators can come close.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:56 PM
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According to this recent article (with video), dead alligators can come close.
Now that's fodder for my next cocktail party. See, it even has its own lead-in.

As another famous once-dead Jew said (perhaps), I very much appreciate being resurrected. Now a new generation can get to read about me coming blood. What luck!

Your cite--which is mandatory clicking for those interested in now-you-see-'em-now-don't penises (plus, well, Alligator Penises!)--is in general part of research on animal penile switchblades versus penile balloons in general. (You know how when you meet a skin doctor at a cocktail party--say the same one I will attend a mention this alligator fact--you show them a little something on your body to ask about? This woman is a penisologist.)

By coincidence, mind you, a more appropriate thread to continue these lucubrations was also posted by me:

Flaccid-to-erect penises (almost) unique in humans?

(I had an enlightening experience of wading through 248 posts with the search term "flaccid penis" to find that.)

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Old 02-15-2013, 06:32 PM
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According to this TED talk it might be possible. Viewer disctetion advised.

Mary Roach: 10 things you didn't know about orgasm
http://on.ted.com/dPI9
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:16 AM
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Orgasm or ejaculate?

You can't get a dead man to have an orgasm, but I'd assume you could make semen come out by pressing on the dead man's prostate (finger up the corpse's anus). I know there are people with fetishes about doing this (called "milking"). The penis doesn't have to be erect for the semen to come out, so assuming the dead man didn't ejaculate too recently before he died, I don't see any reason why this same method wouldn't work on a dead body... it's my understanding it's all a matter of pressure squeezing out excess semen. It's not a nerve/stimulation thing.

But I could be wrong, it's not something I've ever done or had done to me.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:40 AM
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Tom Waits, in his song Pasties And A G-String (At The Two O'Clock Club) says:

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Chesty Morgan and Watermelon Rose
Raise my rent and take off all your clothes
With trench coats, magazines, a bottle full of rum,
She's so good, make a dead man come
Pasties and a G-string, beer and a shot
Portland through a shot glass and a Buffalo squeeze
Wrinkles and Cherry and Twinkie and Pinkie and Fifi live from Gay Paree
Fanfares, rim shots, back stage, who cares, all this hot burlesque for me
So there.
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