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Old 10-21-2012, 11:31 AM
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Why do some men have a cuckold fantasy?

First of all, it was embarrassing for me to ask this question publicly. But, because I am writing behind a nick name and on internet, I feel comfortable asking this question. I wouldn't ask anyone in the flesh. Who could I ask? I want you to know I am serious, creating this thread. If this thread goes overboard, I am sorry in advance. And, again, If this thread is even slightly offensive, I really am sorry. I beg your pardon.

I too have a cuckold fantasy even tough I am 19. It seems like this fantasy is common amongst middle aged men. I wonder what's wrong with me since I am 19 years old having this fantasy.

I'd like to watch my girlfriend with a black man, for instance. I kind of did this. I hired a prostitute and watched her a with a black man. It really stimulated me sexually.

I have invested a lot of thought into why I do like it. In my opinion, every men have a thing for a bad girl - the girl that you see in a party and you would take her home gladly for the night but you wouldn't marry. And also a man could want a faithful and nice wife. How great if you could somehow merge the two? Someone you love intensely is also now the same one that is "taboo" or "off-limits". I think this is where this cuckold fantasy come from.

And my other question besides the one in the thread title: Is this a healthy fantasy psychologically?
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:40 AM
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1st question- Were you humiliated as a child?
2nd - What were your earliest sexual memories?
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:52 AM
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I may not give you the best answer but I'll try.

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1st question- Were you humiliated as a child?

Yes. But I guess almost everyone in one or another was humiliated as a child. I am stutterer. And, yes. I generally felt inferior.

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2nd - What were your earliest sexual memories?
I don't seem to understand this question. But I will answer as much as I can.

It was via internet. I discovered adult web sites as at a early age as 9 or 10. My parents tried to block it but I always found a way to overcome it. At the age of 11 I remember my father one day calling me to the hall and explaining me what sexual intercourse is with an encyclopedia in his hand. Besides, my sexual memories is generally limited to internet porn.

If you are asking me when I had my first sexual experience, my answer is at the age of 18. It was with a prostitute by the way.
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:17 PM
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Its not a fantasy of mine but I am curious about it. One thing that I have read, really aside from those questions I asked.
Some female primates have sex with multiple partners. The males watch while each take turns on the female. This primal sexual situation has been used as an example of why it takes women longer to orgasm. Maybe 3 guys get off before the female does.
As far as your situation goes, maybe this type of sexual situation is your thing? Maybe it isnt the actual cheating, it is they group dynamic?
Either that or there is a sexual component to your humiliation. Did Freud write about this?
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:45 PM
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I knew a man most of my life and was shocked to find out he held this same fantasy. His wife told me about it after they divorced. I will give you her take on it. She felt if he hired the black man that somehow he was giving her the ultimate sexual experience. He was still the power behind the sex act. It made him feel somehow sexually successful. If she were to go out and do this on her own and he caught her by say peeking in the window he would have been furious. Does this make any sense to you?

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Old 10-21-2012, 01:05 PM
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I hired a prostitute and watched her a with a black man.
So she agreed to this with no problem?? You asked her to have sex with a prostitute in order to fulfill your fantasy and she went along with it? And you two are teens?? This seems hard to swallow.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:17 PM
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A cuck's relationship with is wife/gf is their business, but I do hope they're able to have friendships with Black guys beyond "wanna fuck my wife?"

None of my Black friends have experienced this that they've told me (and they have told some pretty odd stuff), but I can't imagine it's any less annoying than it is for lesbians being trolled for MFF threeways.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:29 PM
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So she agreed to this with no problem?? You asked her to have sex with a prostitute in order to fulfill your fantasy and she went along with it? And you two are teens?? This seems hard to swallow.
It sounded like he hired a female prositutute and watched someone else do her.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:32 PM
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I'm gay so my situation might be a little different, but I find it arousing when my boyfriend does stuff with other guys from time to time, with my permission, and shares the details. It turns me on. He's not falling in love with anyone else, so I don't feel threatened.

Surprisingly, I have another gay friend who actually got to know this middle-aged couple and found out that the husband had this same fantasy. So he actually had sex with the guy's wife, from time to time, while the husband watched. He said, "yeah I was having sex with a woman, but it's about the gayest straight sex you can have. I can't explain it." He liked it because a man was enjoying watching him have sex, and the husband enjoyed it because of the cuckold fantasy.

It's a big strange world we live in! Don't feel too bad or ashamed about your fetishes; as long as no one is getting hurt, embrace it!
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:34 PM
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It sounded like he hired a female prositutute and watched someone else do her.

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I'd like to watch my girlfriend with a black man, for instance. I kind of did this. I hired a prostitute and watched her a with a black man.

Well this is the quote; what he meant seems sort of vague to me. It still reads as though he hired a black male prostitute and watched his girlfriend having sex with him. But I do see how it could read the other way, too. But that brings up questions as well. Like, where did this random black man come from that had sex with the prostitute that he hired?
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:46 PM
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Well this is the quote; what he meant seems sort of vague to me. It still reads as though he hired a black male prostitute and watched his girlfriend having sex with him. But I do see how it could read the other way, too. But that brings up questions as well. Like, where did this random black man come from that had sex with the prostitute that he hired?
Yeah, Ambivalid, I read it your way first too, but going back again it's obvious that he hired a prostitute (female), and arranged her (and watched her) having sex with a black man (friend of his?).

He says, "I'd LIKE to see my girlfriend..." so... he hasn't done it yet. He did something "similar".
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:47 PM
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I dated a man that was into this. I never agreed to do it, though. According to my therapist at the time, it was a control thing for him, like, "look what I can make you do".
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:50 PM
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I dated a man that was into this. I never agreed to do it, though. According to my therapist at the time, it was a control thing for him, like, "look what I can make you do".
I think your therapist was completely out of line thinking that.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:51 PM
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Yeah, Ambivalid, I read it your way first too, but going back again it's obvious that he hired a prostitute (female), and arranged her (and watched her) having sex with a black man (friend of his?).

He says, "I'd LIKE to see my girlfriend..." so... he hasn't done it yet. He did something "similar".
Well still; where did this "black man" come from? That seems very odd to me. Did he just grab one off the street? "Hey man, wanna bang a hooker?"
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:52 PM
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I think your therapist was completely out of line thinking that.

Note that I didn't say that she said that was the case for all men who are into it, just "for him". And if you knew him, I think you would agree.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:58 PM
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Well still; where did this "black man" come from? That seems very odd to me. Did he just grab one off the street? "Hey man, wanna bang a hooker?"
Good question, but I must say I have seen this happen in areas where it is clear that prostitution is the main reason to be there. In my case it was a club setting - and it wasn't me btw - where a guy got off by watching the girl doing someone else; so he asked her which guy she would like (happened to be my buddy). So he might have asked her to bring someone...or yes, if it was a streetwalker, asked someone who was there for obvious reasons.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:02 PM
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Note that I didn't say that she said that was the case for all men who are into it, just "for him". And if you knew him, I think you would agree.
True, true. I shouldn't have assumed so much. Sorry.
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Old 10-21-2012, 03:29 PM
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Well still; where did this "black man" come from?...
Africa.
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Old 10-21-2012, 03:58 PM
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Old 10-21-2012, 04:43 PM
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I have seen this porn in my voracious search a few times. It does nothing for me. In those (not that they reflect reality, although some seems amateur), there's a big humiliation aspect. I'd say that 90% of the time, the outside guy is black. It comes across as pretty racist from what I've seen. Part of the humiliation, it's like "not only are you so worthless that you can't please your wife, but he's *gasp*! Black!"
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Old 10-21-2012, 04:58 PM
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Well, why do some women have a rape fantasy?

It's a fantasy, and usually, at the end of it all, the person having the fantasy is the one in control. A man with a cuckhold fantasy hires/asks/convinces another man to have sex with his usual partner... but you see, he's the one initiating all this, sets the rules, etc. It's not his partner actually running off to have a deep relationship with someone else. Just as the woman with the rape fantasy doesn't want to be actually raped with all the potentially brutality and loss of control. She wants a fantasy "ravaging" that at base she actually controls - choosing the partner, the setting, the (very important) limits on what actually happens.

As long as everyone is adult, consenting, and no one gets hurt I don't see a problem here. Preferably, you want everyone to have a good time as well.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:27 PM
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Well, why do some women have a rape fantasy?

It's a fantasy, and usually, at the end of it all, the person having the fantasy is the one in control. A man with a cuckhold fantasy hires/asks/convinces another man to have sex with his usual partner... but you see, he's the one initiating all this, sets the rules, etc. It's not his partner actually running off to have a deep relationship with someone else. Just as the woman with the rape fantasy doesn't want to be actually raped with all the potentially brutality and loss of control. She wants a fantasy "ravaging" that at base she actually controls - choosing the partner, the setting, the (very important) limits on what actually happens.

As long as everyone is adult, consenting, and no one gets hurt I don't see a problem here. Preferably, you want everyone to have a good time as well.
I won't come right out and say that people suggesting it's about the man being in control are completely wrong, but I think for the vast majority of men with this particular fantasy it's way off.

Sure, it's a fantasy initiated by the man the overwhelming majority of the time. But most couples that actually do it have lots of experience trying other forms of dominance and submission and S&M. Lot's of men with fantasies of being degraded or humiliated want it done exactly on their terms, but men in relationships who actually get to do it, in my experience, sincerely want to give up control and have wives willing to take it.

As far as whether it's healthy, Fear of the Dark, I think there's at least two issues. Can you accept that it's a fantasy you have and not be judgmental about yourself? Being cuckolded is objective a bad, humiliating thing. If you think you're a bad person who deserves to be treated badly, it's not psychologically healthy.

If you can accept you're a good valuable worthwhile person who happens to have a unusual fetish for being cuckolded, then it's a perfectly healthy and not all that rare fantasy.

The 2nd issue becomes whether you want to actually try it and how that desire impacts your real relationships. Your girlfriend/wife might not be ok just because you are, for instance. And even if you guys both are you are likely to find it's much different in reality with your real girlfriend than in your head. If it ruins your relationship then it's clearly not psychologically healthy.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:31 PM
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I knew a man most of my life and was shocked to find out he held this same fantasy. His wife told me about it after they divorced. I will give you her take on it. She felt if he hired the black man that somehow he was giving her the ultimate sexual experience. He was still the power behind the sex act. It made him feel somehow sexually successful. If she were to go out and do this on her own and he caught her by say peeking in the window he would have been furious. Does this make any sense to you?
This. I find the idea vaguely titillating and the control thing is the only reason why. I'm into mild bondage too.
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:24 PM
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Africa.
My first thought was that large angry negro dude with the friend who didn't run over a dog a few threads ago ... One man in his time plays many parts and all that.
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:24 PM
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This seems hard to swallow.
That's what she said!
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:27 PM
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That's what she said!
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:50 PM
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I have seen this porn in my voracious search a few times. It does nothing for me. In those (not that they reflect reality, although some seems amateur), there's a big humiliation aspect. I'd say that 90% of the time, the outside guy is black. It comes across as pretty racist from what I've seen. Part of the humiliation, it's like "not only are you so worthless that you can't please your wife, but he's *gasp*! Black!"
I don't think it's racist, unless you consider "black guys have big cocks" racist.
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:51 PM
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Well still; where did this "black man" come from? That seems very odd to me. Did he just grab one off the street? "Hey man, wanna bang a hooker?"
Probably Craigslist or a meetup site of some sort. Believe it or not, there are actually men out there looking for no strings attached sex with women. Pretty crazy this world we live in.
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Old 10-21-2012, 07:02 PM
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:33 PM
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Here's a fun weekend web investigation of a cuckold forum.

I have no probs at all. I do bet, though, the specifically black man thing is a mostly american only cuckold thing. I hesitate to speculate why.

The only thing I have had a bit like this is when I am feeling a bit inadequete I have wondered if it would be better to have her serviced by someone else with more comptence than me but it is not a fantasty quite, although it is a bit sexual come to think of it.
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:34 PM
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(By the way you should definitely visit my link cause it goes into a whole load of this stuff, more deeply than other posts in this thread so far. Also Alice's thing about the therapist reminds me of a thread I wanna start some time accusing most therapists of not having a clue what they're talking about.)
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:40 PM
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I have seen this same type of thing acted out with Biker or rough types. We had a banker in our neighborhhod when I was a kid working in a service station who had myself and the other gas pumper do his wife on seperate occassions. I used to hang out in biker bars and have been propositioned a couple times to do a wife but turned it down. A bit odd but not really all that unusual I think.
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:55 PM
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Sounds to me like what most people in this thread are talking about is not a cuckold fantasy, but a voyeur fantasy. A voyeur wants to watch his/her partner have sex with another person. A "cuck" wants a man to come over, punch him in the balls, call him a little manboy, fuck his wife (possibly even in another room where the husband can't even watch) and cum on his face. There's a lot more to cuckolding as a fetish than his wife having simple sex with another man, and it generally involves Submission and/or Bondage/Discipline - not of the wife, of the husband.

ETA: And, as always with sex, there's nothing wrong or unhealthy about it, as long as everyone involved truly is consenting and proper safety precautions are taken.

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Old 10-21-2012, 09:12 PM
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Also Alice's thing about the therapist reminds me of a thread I wanna start some time accusing most therapists of not having a clue what they're talking about.)
And how did you know the man in question?

Again, that therapist was talking about this one specific man, knowing how he was and what possibly motivated him. WTF are you to come in here and say that she was wrong?

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Old 10-21-2012, 10:09 PM
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I sort of get the cuck thing in general but not so much the black guy specifically. I look at a fair amount of porn. Most of it being stills not movies. Do a search on "tumblr humiliation" (for example) and most of the cuck stuff is with black guys. I can't not really see it as anything but some racial kink.


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Dude, what is it with you in this thread?
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:30 PM
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I sort of get the cuck thing in general but not so much the black guy specifically. I look at a fair amount of porn. Most of it being stills not movies. Do a search on "tumblr humiliation" (for example) and most of the cuck stuff is with black guys. I can't not really see it as anything but some racial kink.



Dude, what is it with you in this thread?
I don't have the slightest clue what that means.
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:33 PM
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I sort of get the cuck thing in general but not so much the black guy specifically. I look at a fair amount of porn. Most of it being stills not movies. Do a search on "tumblr humiliation" (for example) and most of the cuck stuff is with black guys. I can't not really see it as anything but some racial kink.
I think it has to do with an internalized stereotype, yes. I'm not sure if I'd call it a racial kink or not. I think it's in line with the other dominant alpha male savage behaviors like the dickpunching and emasculating. It's an internalized fear, implanted and encouraged by mainstream culture, "thug" culture and gangsta culture, of the young black man and of his hyper-masculine presence.

It may also...and here I'm drifting into psychotherapy land, which is always sketchy when talking about kink...possibly be enough of an "other" that the husband doesn't feel emotionally cuckolded. That's what he needs to feel safe - the assurance that his wife won't be interested in this man other than as a sexual partner, because he's as different from her mate as it's possible to be.
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:59 PM
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ETA: And, as always with sex, there's nothing wrong or unhealthy about it, as long as everyone involved truly is consenting and proper safety precautions are taken.
And "of age". I hope.
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And "of age". I hope.
Part and parcel of "consenting", in a legal sense.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:40 AM
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Not really. A minor can consent; s/he just can't give valid consent.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:07 AM
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I don't know but I wanted to guess.

I doubt there is a universal answer but for some men maybe it is a validation thing. "My woman" is attractive to other men!
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:11 AM
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I dated a man that was into this. I never agreed to do it, though. According to my therapist at the time, it was a control thing for him, like, "look what I can make you do".
I've heard this explanation before, but I think it's different for some guys who actually get off on being humiliated. I don't know, I don't get any of it.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:17 AM
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No one's mentioned the scientific theories, so here goes:
I remember reading a study that found that watching other men have sex (can't remember with whom) improved a man's sperm quality. Perhaps having competition encourages some people. Also, there's a theory that human penises are shaped as "semen scoops" (search for "semen displacement theory" - there are papers on it) which, if accurate, also shows that our bodies, if not our minds, are ready for such competition.
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:54 PM
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No one's mentioned the scientific theories, so here goes:
I remember reading a study that found that watching other men have sex (can't remember with whom) improved a man's sperm quality. Perhaps having competition encourages some people. Also, there's a theory that human penises are shaped as "semen scoops" (search for "semen displacement theory" - there are papers on it) which, if accurate, also shows that our bodies, if not our minds, are ready for such competition.
I don't know about humans, but there's similar evidence in the animal kingdom. Not visual but - the Bruce effect, where an animal will miscarry if a pheromone produced by another viable male other than the one who impregnated is sensed. So she'll be ready sooner. This is in estrous animals like rodents. I've never heard of that penis one, although some animals take it to an extreme - some animals, wasps IIRC, actually break off their penis and it becomes a plug, blocking further access.
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:26 PM
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I knew a man most of my life and was shocked to find out he held this same fantasy. His wife told me about it after they divorced. I will give you her take on it. She felt if he hired the black man that somehow he was giving her the ultimate sexual experience. He was still the power behind the sex act. It made him feel somehow sexually successful. If she were to go out and do this on her own and he caught her by say peeking in the window he would have been furious. Does this make any sense to you?
I can't really say that the feeling I get is "success". As I said, it is only sexually stimulating. Maybe in deep down my brain, subconsciously I feel somehow sexually successful. And as a result of that, I have this fantasy.

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So she agreed to this with no problem?? You asked her to have sex with a prostitute in order to fulfill your fantasy and she went along with it? And you two are teens?? This seems hard to swallow.
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Well this is the quote; what he meant seems sort of vague to me. It still reads as though he hired a black male prostitute and watched his girlfriend having sex with him. But I do see how it could read the other way, too. But that brings up questions as well. Like, where did this random black man come from that had sex with the prostitute that he hired?
Well I have a weird usage of this language. I am sorry for confusion. What I meant was that I hired a female prostitute. And the black guy was one of my acquaintances.

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Yeah, Ambivalid, I read it your way first too, but going back again it's obvious that he hired a prostitute (female), and arranged her (and watched her) having sex with a black man (friend of his?).

He says, "I'd LIKE to see my girlfriend..." so... he hasn't done it yet. He did something "similar".
Yes, exactly. I just tried to figure out how it could feel.

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*Reads post*
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Obvious troll is obvious. Nothin' more to see here, folks.
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So...yeah, that sounds more like a voyeur thing, not cuckolding at all. You had no relationship with the woman, she wasn't your wife or your mate, you just wanted to watch people have sex. That's pretty darn common and even, dare I say it, "vanilla" as kink goes. I'm sorry to have to tell you this but...you're normal.
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:55 PM
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*Reads username*
*Reads post*
*Does a double-take*

Obvious troll is obvious. Nothin' more to see here, folks.
Why are you so disrespectful?
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:37 PM
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I've always thought cuckold fantasies have a "vicarious living" element, especially since many guys involved are bisexual.

I think there's an element there of living out a fantasy of having the perceived sexual power of a woman -- I think a lot of guys fantasize about being able to casually pick-and-choose partners and cuckold fantasies often involve a major element of that. Despite the fantasy of the man being totally powerless, it seems to me that the reality is that the "cuckold" is frequently the one arranging the meetings.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:53 PM
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I'm going to analyze your post.

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And, again, If this thread is even slightly offensive, I really am sorry. I beg your pardon.
First of all, your screen name is Fear of the Dark and you claim to have a cuckold fantasy that involves a black man. Wut?

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I too have a cuckold fantasy even tough I am 19. It seems like this fantasy is common amongst middle aged men. I wonder what's wrong with me since I am 19 years old having this fantasy.
If it's so common, why have I never heard of this?


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In my opinion, every men have a thing for a bad girl - the girl that you see in a party and you would take her home gladly for the night but you wouldn't marry. And also a man could want a faithful and nice wife. How great if you could somehow merge the two? Someone you love intensely is also now the same one that is "taboo" or "off-limits". I think this is where this cuckold fantasy come from.
Emphasis mine. It should be "every man has a thing." It should be "wouldn't it be great if you could somehow merge the two?" It should be "I think this why I have a cuckold fantasy."

Your English must not be very fluent.


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And my other question besides the one in the thread title: Is this a healthy fantasy psychologically?
Emphasis mine. It should be "is this a healthy fantasy for me to have psychologically?"

Your post reads like a Nigerian scam.

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