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A familiar face returns as each member of the group struggles to find his or her humanity in a world of constant threats.
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The Governor is back, Daryl still doesn’t know about Carol, and Ike Barinholtze & David Morrissey are on Talking Dead.
Old guy can’t smoke because of his oxygen, but they sat him next to a lit kerosene lamp. :smack:
Grab the wheelchair!
Meh, still wish they had finished the guv’ner character off last season.
Explain to me why a secure apartment with a lot of food and a water supply is not good enough and you’d want to find something “better”?
This episode had a very, “Let’s meet the new characters for a spin-off!” feel to me. I think the two ladies and the girl will be moved on over (don’t recall any of their names). All three of them seem like dead weight at this point - they’ve spent the whole apocalypse in an apartment, not even able to take out the walkers in that one building. ETA: I was kind of pissed off at her saying there is nothing to do after the end of the world - figure something out, honey!
The guy who looked over the edge of the pit and saw the Governor - do we know him? He looked familiar to me.
He should, he was the governors right hand man back in Woodbury and then on the road. He was the same one who killed the walker that stumbled through the fire at the beginning of this episode.
Ah, that guy! Were they calling him Martinez on The Talking Dead?
Agreed. While the sisters are a hell of a lot softer than Rick’s group they’re not exactly dead weight. They took a very conservative & apparently successful survival strategy. Granted that basically involved sheltering in place waiting for help that will never come and clearly isn’t viable in the long term. And that guy looking over the edge was one of the Governor’s ex-lieutenants (that abandoned him in the middle of the night). Once again somebody spent months wandering around in a circle. :rolleyes: I mean he fell into his own zombie pit for crying out loud. :smack: Though whatever happens to the women he apparently survives since it looks like all of this is taking place before that scene of him at the prison last episode. It might even be taking place before the season premiere.
It’s been a couple years since the zombocalipse started by now right? those sisters seemed a bit naive at this point.
This set up was pretty much taken from the novel “Rise of the Governor”. In the novel, though, it was before Woodbury (as the title implies) and the Governor wasn’t alone. I don’t watch the Talking Dead but I would be curious if they mention that.
Somebody quick tell me about the Daryl-Carol situation. It seems that’s the only thing I really care about.
There was nothing about the regular crew on todays episode.
Ah hell was it all about the governor? That’s a letdown for me. I can’t stand looking at that guy’s face. They might as well have given him goat horns.
I did notice thinking about it later that I didn’t want to yell at the tv about the stupidity this episode. Hmm.
Again, not enough zombie fights and yet another sack o potatoes kid.
My question: when the gov was watching the prison, was it before or after the events today?
I’m sure this is all taking place before we saw him at the prison. Narratively it doesn’t make any sense otherwise.
I’m curious if they are doing a a full redemption/sacrifice arc for the Governor or if he is just being set up to lead the spin-off.
Pure speculation- but he could be at the prison in order to ask Rick’s crew for help.
I wondered that, too, but the writers took him too far (IMO) to make a redemption arc work. Not sure anything he could do- including sacrificing himself for anyone- would redeem a character who blatantly killed the army dudes, tortured Maggie and Glenn, killed Milton, tortured and left Andrea to be eaten by Milton, and mowed down a field full of his own people. Not to mention what may have happened to all those heads in his secret room. By focusing so much on making him The Evil, I think they burned any redemption bridges.
A few things about the episode:
The female voice at the beginning, speaking to the Governor? I thought that was Carol.
You don’t know, as a person with common sense, that if someone/something doesn’t stay down after you’ve shot them in the chest, that perhaps the next target is the head?
You don’t know this after being in the academy?
You don’t know this after TWO years of these things??
Someone has already mentioned Oxygen Dad sitting right beside the kerosene lamp.
I know it’s something that we’re probably meant to not think about anymore, but two years worth of oil for those lamps, eh?
Hey girls, if you had a hard time lifting up your father to put him to bed before the Governor showed up, it must’ve been a bitch getting him to the bathroom several times a day. (Something else we’re probably not meant to think about- two years in an apartment with four people… where are they leaving their waste, human and otherwise?)
What happened to the knife the Governor had? Might have made killing Oxygen Dad a bit less gory. Fortunately, the dad’s head was apparently already the density of a melon, so smashing it to bits didn’t take more than a few good whacks.
Why in the world would you leave a secure apartment? Isn’t that kind of the point? Don’t you want to find a place to hunker down? Where exactly do you want to go that’s better? If you’ve heard a safety zone has been established or something, maybe, but really, do you want to get into a truck and just go where “the roads and the biters” take you? Is that an intelligent plan for the Zombie Apocalypse?
Because the haunted male anti-hero is leaving the apartment.
This episode sure won’t win any awards for feminism: the two adult women were naive, weak, and helpless, and abandoned their secure living space to follow a strong-jawed man with killing skills around rural Georgia. When the younger sister tripped over nothing to get herself the standard woman-in-horror-movie twisted ankle, I couldn’t roll my eyes far enough.
And for pete’s sake, can they find a single child actor with some chops? The little girl’s blank stare when confronted by the zombie crowd was all wrong - should have been hysterical terror, not blank confusion.
On the plus side, the Governor came off like a human being, if a cliched one, and not a cardboard supervillain. I also thought the message-board barn was a nice touch, the sort of thing that would be at home in a better show about an apocalypse.
And, they used a song by Lucero frontman Ben Nichols! Good for him, 12 million pairs of ears isn’t shabby at all.
Do we know that? It seems like a sensible anti-zombie measure, and since Woodbury was burned down, I doubt Martinez and his new crew would be based out of there.
Is it just me, or does the older sister look an awful lot like Maggie.
This episode kind of reminded me of the one in Lost when they did a catch-up sequence of events for the tail section folks. Only that was a lot better.