A Rebuttal to Re: woe to unrepented cities

[Michael Ellis]

You think I was offensive?

Yes.

Jesus was killed for what he tought, and you think taht offensiveness scares me?

I thought Jesus was killed to save us. Shows how much I learned at Sunday school.

The 1st christians (the apostles), when flogged, REJOICED!

So did Marquis de Sade, what's your point?

Peter was stoned and left for dead... He got back up and re-entered the city

Timmy was fleeced and bankrupted and left poor, but he went back to Las Vegas soon after.

There is a message from the bible, though it makes me sound like a bearer of bad news, is actually the good news.

Barbara Eden's character from I Dream of Jeannie exsists and wants to call me 'master'?

No? Damn.

Now I not only expect, but ask for persecution.. for when you persucute me you give me a power of martyrdom that exceeds all but that of God's power!

That's what the terrorists said, buddy.

There is truth and then there is fiction. Truth is more painfull than fiction..

Tell that to my Cousin Alex, crushed to death by the complete works of Charles Dickens, William Faulkner and Stephen King while trying to get his video of Deathstalker II off the bookshelf.

So I come not with words of pain, but of comfort

Right now, words of comfort involve me, Kirsten Dunst, a hottub and a sunset. You gonna tell me this?

I am asking all that belive in Jesus, to unite.. Put away all of your timid christmas/easter faiths, and have real faith.

As opposed to designer imposter faith?

This is not a lesson that you hear a preacher say to the elderly and the children, this is cold hard truth!

Could I have the warm, soft truth instead?

There are lessons that cannot be told to you, you can only learn from events!

Yes, and I'll never put my genetals on a paper slicer again!

Every time you refuse to learn taht lesson, the next time God tries to teach you harder.

God is persistant, ain't he?

This is a message of forgiveness! The lesson start small and ends big..

So does a torrid affair with a firey young nymph from Memphis, but I don't think it's relevant right now.

UIf you cannot learn that now.. 11,000 dead will be eclipesed by waht will happen next!

Who's Ulf, and what can't he learn?

1st came manson, then came the oklahoma bombing, again comes children with guns, the WTC bombed once, then once more!

First came love, then came marraige, then came Mrs. Blake in a funeral carraige.

You thick headed barbarians! You call yourselves patriots yet you will unleash the death on us all!

*golf clap*

Good, very good, that was almost a coherent thought!

I have no fear of death. I've been washed of my sins. Have you?

[O Brother, Where Art Thou?]
I guess I'm the only one who's not affiliated.
[/O Brother, Where Art Thou?]

If you reject me I will go to others. And a rejection from them leads me to others, and rejection again will lead me to others...

That, my friend, is The Telemarketer's Creed™

Rome sent the christians away from each other to weaken them. They preached and improved there number.

I thought that numbers rackets were illegal.

I am not talking to you as Americans, but as christians.

Can't you just talk to us as individual humans?

We are all children under God, not under America..

I'd rather be under Laetitia Casta if it's all the same to you.

You are of the kingdom of God.

And you are a King of the Fools.

A terrorist can destryoy the capital of america, but lets see them set an attack on heaven!

What, they destroyed the rest of D.C. too?

They can kill the president, but have they killed God?

What's God's phone number, I'd like to ask him that myself.

Even when Jesus was killed, after 3 days he was raised!

You can't keep a good man down, I say.

John 2:19
19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

Me, I can't even get a foreman to install a window in three days.

Is your temple in any of american buildings?

No.

All your temple are belong to us.

*ducks machine gun fire*

They cannot be raised in 3 days!

Right, I'll cancel the opening ceremonies for the Ellis towers.

Non of your presidents can be raised in 3 days!

One could argue that some were never raised at all.

Did J.F.K. get back up and take back his throne? NO!

That's because he used the little President's room before the motorcade.

You have faith in a country, put your faith in it. Even Rome in it's seemless invinsableness has been destroyed!

Rome destroyed? Quick! Someone tell the Italians they'll need a new capital!

Isreal were lead by God, but gave him up for an earthly leader, where are they now? Solomon was the richest king ever..

I assume you've adjusted for intrest rates, then.

He had the bigest kingdom ever owned by man, Is he not dead and burried?

SOLOMON: "I'm not dead!"
DAVID: "What was that?"
LAZARUS: "He says he not dead!"
SOLOMON: "I'm not dead! I'm getting better!"

(enter Fenris in a sheep costume)

FENRIS: "Get on with it!"
SCYLLA: "Yes, get on with it!"
OTHERS: "Hey! Get on with it!"
ELLIS: Sorry.

(exit ALL except jarbabyj, with bad Irish accent)

JARBABYJ: "Right, move it along, nothin to see here."

You want to cause punishment to those who have bombed the tower? Was not the destruction of that tower and the death of the workers all set forth when they were created?

Whachutalkinabout Willis?

Prov 20:22
22 Do not say, "I'll pay you back for this wrong!" Wait for the LORD, and he will deliver you.

I'll pay you back for this wrong!"

*ZAP*

OK, sorry!

You think you can do anything to these terorists? I tell you you can torture these men untill the sun crashes into the earth, and you have not even begun to inflict the punnishment that hell offers!

Don't tell me...

An eternity of *N'Sync music!

That is Hell.

If i have said this once, I have said it 10 times, but more importantly Jesus said it 1st:

I love guessing games! Let's see:

"All your base are belong to us?"

No?

"I shot the sherriff but I didn't shoot the deputy?"

I give up, what did he say?

[The_Raven]

Howyadoin,

What can I say except... Bravo!

Folded, spindled and mutilated, and you didn't have to call upon the awesome power of the Pit. You're scary good...

-Rav

[peewee_RotA]

I don't see how you can resist forgiveness?

Let me tell you a story that was told to me by my father, and it was told to him by mathew, it was told to him by Jesus, and told to him by his father (God) as well as everybodies father here.


Matt 18:23-35
23 "Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants.
24 As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him.
25 Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.
26 "The servant fell on his knees before him. 'Be patient with me,' he begged, 'and I will pay back everything.'
27 The servant's master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.
28 "But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii. He grabbed him and began to choke him. 'Pay back what you owe me!' he demanded.
29 "His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, 'Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.'
30 "But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt.
31 When the other servants saw what had happened, they were greatly distressed and went and told their master everything that had happened.
32 "Then the master called the servant in. 'You wicked servant,' he said, 'I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to.
33 Shouldn't you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?'
34 In anger his master turned him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.
35 "This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from your heart."
(NIV)

Can you forever deny the word of God?

I can nolonger question your Christianity, because you have no faith. But now I can question your patriotism!

Can you ignore the teachings in the bible, while you are living in a nation founded under God?

Without God this nation didn't exsists, when you forsake him, will he not forsake you?

Anybody who lives in a country founded under God, and yet does not listen to his words, and scorns the one who tells him, has no place in this country!

You anarchist, nah yet you anti-christ! Leave my country, and leave my guidence!

I have clearly set up for you a set path on stable ground, and you spit in my face and go walking in the woods.

When you die, I hope you can tell God what you say about forgiveness, as easily as you tell me.

[Coldfire]

Michael Ellis, if a thread is closed, it's closed for a reason. Don't start a new thread because you think there's anything to add. If a moderator decided to close a thread, there IS nothing to add within that same forum.

peewee__RotA, if you don't stop your witnessing crap right fucking now, you may get banned even faster than you already will be.

This thread is closed.

[The_Raven]

Howyadoin,

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-Rav