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I've posted my ideas about the number Phi (1.618...) and the unified field theory here before, and people have not accepted it that well. So, I have changed my approach, I will present the ideas in the simplest terms possible.
I will refrence this article originally written by Dan Winter for public use: http://www.soulinvitation.com/introduction/index.html Please read the entire thing before you comment, again, this is the simplest I can present it. Here is an excerpt, but I encourage you to read the whole article: Quote:
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my cat's breath smells like cat food
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I like my universal jello with whipped cream.
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And this theory predicts that . . .?
Seriously, give me something that I can go observe. Fill in these blanks: My theory explains ____ more satisfactorily than existing physics. Because of this, the observed _____ that we currently have trouble explaining matches my theory's prediction of _____. Further, if you were to do _____ test, the theory predicts that ____ will occur. Fill 'em in or go home, please. (Mmmm. Universal jello. Does that go with Soul Donuts?) |
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I bent my wookie.
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My God! It's full of stars...
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Warning: Serious Post
Has anybody noticed how similar some of Hiyruu's stuff is to the Theosophism of H.P. Blavatsky?
For some reason, noting this makes me veeeery uneasy.... |
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I love great phi theories
Apple phi, pumpkin phi, banana cream phi
To quote the esteemed philosopher H. J. Simpson: "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhwwwwwwwwww" (it works better if you picture the stream of saliva) |
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You forgot "universal jello phi".
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Polycarp, I didn't know who Blavatsky was until you mentioned her, but after looking I realize I had heard the beliefs before. I also find this brief article Let's Take Hitler. Ignoring the conclusions the author makes, is this a fair assessment of Blavatsky (and why we have reason to be alarmed)?
By the way, are Blavatsky's writings as strangely unclear as these, or are you talking about the ideas? Reading this stuff is so odd ... it's as if a computer had generated the phrases, but not quite, just a little too human, and yet not exactly what an absolute lunatic's ravings would be. I skimmed through the article linked to in the OP. What's odd is that the 'Questioner' appears to speak rationally and normally at first, but over time seems to lose it. Yet the answers maintain the gobbledygook phraseology throughout. |
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Does Universal Jello Phi replace both metric and standard Jello Phi? If so, this could free up a whole shelf in my refrigerator!
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The Great Pumpkin Theory
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I need to remember that for my physics class tomorrow.
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There's always room for jello.
The sort of phi I've always found to be a lot more interesting is the phenomenon in cognitive perception studies. A dot of one color is flashed by some sort of apparatus, and then a number of milliseconds later, a dot of another color, a short distance away. The nifty thing is, people perceive a single dot, moving quickly between the points, and changing color at the halfway point--where no dot was ever displayed. Doubtless, that sort of oddity of perceptual trickery is explained if we could only grasp this...whatever it is. It makes me think of Bucky Fuller's "Synergetics," only written by someone with a PCP drip permanently installed into his cortex, and who probably never came up with anything practical like geodesic construction. |
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I've read the Op 4 times.
Your points don't follow one from the other. You've made up names for phenomena which already have names. And, the whole point of quantum mechanics (of which I know very little, but aspire) is that the same rules of the macro universe do not apply to quanta and vice cersa. That's why they are so difficult to determine. You are immediately making the rather severe error of ommitting this consideration in your theory and assuming that the rules of quanta apply to the macro world. Which is provably false unless you are willing to provide me with some macro universe jello or donuts with compassion and self-determination. |
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Hiyruu wrote:
1. In a unified field everything is waves moving about in a universal jello of particle/waves. 2. In that universal jello or "ether" the only self-organizing shape is the donut or smoke rings or torus. 3. Those donuts or vortex pairs arrange themselves like trumpets into the faces of the platonic solids, and this is called the atomic table (matter). Well, there's your problem right there, putting ether, donuts and trumpets in universal jello! You need miniature marshmellows, carrots sticks and marachino cherries! And your flavor of universal jello matters, too! Are you using orange, lime, cherry or watermelon? Someone get Chef Troy in here with a good dessert cookbook! On a slightly more serious note, I agree with Mighty Maximino. Give us something we can tangible about this theory, predicitions that match observable phenomenon.
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Wasn't the movie American Phi about Quote:
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And I may be naive, but this is exactly what I picture an absolute lunatic's ravings are like. At least an absolute lunatic that can apparently type and put together a website. |
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In the OP, Hiyruu quoted Dan Winter's article as saying:
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Well ... even if the rest of the OP wasn't already a load of Dingo's Kidneys, this alone would automatically throw it into the Loony Bin. Ley lines are figments of overzealous New Agers' imaginations: http://www.skepdic.com/leylines.html |
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Jell-O Patrol, on the prowl
As a member of the Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] patrol, I shall be reporting your gross violation of the Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] name and trademark to the Jell-Otm authorities.
Your use of Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym], an important and vital part of our nation's economy not only violates copyright, damages the intellectual value as well as copyright of Jell-Otm, but by infringing on Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym]'s good name with your crackpot theories, might very well upset the already fragile economy, thus undermining any HOPE for a quick recovery, thus bringing this mighty nation to it's knees! Traitor. You will be hearing from Kraft Food[sym]ä[/sym]'s lawyers forthwith. In the meantime, how 'bout taking a fun test. I bet you score over 50. Go on. Take it. It'll be FUN! Fenris BTW: Does anyone remember a product called Jell-O 1,2,3[sym]Ò[/sym]? It was essentially Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] that seperated into three layers, a normal Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym]-y layer, a sort of creamy layer and a frothy layer on top. It was weird, but addictive. I've come close to duplicating it by putting Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] in the blender and whumping the bejezus out of it, but all I get is Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] 1,3. I can't get the creamy layer....any suggestions? |
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Re: The Great Pumpkin Theory
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It doesn't matter. What is matter? Never mind. :gd&r:
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Hiyruu
There is no "æther." You are aware of the experiments which demonstrated such, right? (Was it the Michaelson-Morley experiments? Anyone? Beuller?)
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This is probably totally pointless, but I'll say it anyway.
There's no debate in the OP. Helloooo? This is a "posted without comment" hit 'n' run. Not meaning to tell the mods their business, but aren't all threads dealing with deep observations on Jello and/or donuts supposed to be posted in MPSIMS? fenris, i thought your "test" was going to be the naked jello wrestling test, but it wasn't, and i can't find it in the archives |
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If we allow (and we do) "EINSTEIN WAS WRONG!" threads in GD, as long as the Mods/Admins feel Phi-Rue isn't trolling, I can't see a better place for them. Think of it as witnessing and it might make some more sense. It also helps if you realize that a lot of what he seems (as far as I can tell) is proving that the soul is made up of vortex-trumpets in a golden spiral PHI ratio. And if we're foolin' around with the soul, then we're firmly in GD territory! Fenris (I couldn't find the Jell-O wrestling link either.) |
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What a great ECK-anar joke.
The fun comes from reading serious responses. Hee-Har !!! Cheers
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Re: Hiyruu
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Or better yet, read a book... doesn't even matter which one... Hell I bet you'd get a better understanding of physical laws from "Go dog go" than those delusions you seem so fond of.
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Actually, perhaps this thread should be moved to the "opinions" forum, it was meant to give an introduction to the hypothesis, which would set the ground work for a possible debate at a later date.
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Hiyruu, dude, your source needs to lay off the Circus Peanuts. Universal Jello? Holograms inside my head? Erotic gravity relations? Tell me, do you really believe this stuff or are you playing a joke?
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Hiyruu... the biggest flaw in all your theories is this: How do we test them? How do we figure out if your theories are accurate or not? What evidence do you have that your theory is so? If you have no evidence, then there is no significance to the theory.
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whoo Dude, I have to say, your ideas intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Hiyruu, your "science" has no corroberating evidence, no testable phenomena, and no visible results. As a result of this, it does not stand up to existing physics. I have read pretty much all of your threads about Phi. I have given up trying to explain using proper science that the theories you have presented are impossible. So I am about to do something I never thought I would do. I will debate you on a level playing field. I propose the following conditions. 1. As long you do not reference Dan Winter, I will not reference the scientific community. 1. Do not expect me to accept any axioms. explain any corellations you use, and show your work. I will attempt to do the same. 1. I will use the basic rules of physics. You can use the basic rules of your theory set out above. Do we have a deal? |
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What I got from the linked article...
...was a nostalgia for the Cannabis of yesteryear.
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I'm taking my ball and going home! Fenris (And I still say this counts as witnessing. If I do an ATMB thread, DDG it's because I'm actually curious as to this point.) |
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Hiyruu
I suggest switching brands of toilet paper and see if you can still post this with a straight face next week. Even in the heights of a complete LSD bender, I don't think this would make sense or seem important. That is setting the bar low indeed. |
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Poor Sleepers
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They proceeded to attack Ether on two fronts. First, their scientists spread theories (such as relativity) that conflicted with, and seemingly disproved, Ether. Second, the Cabal Of Pure Thought, currently known as The New World Order, released pseudoscientific ramblings made to appear as defending the Ether. This discredited us still further. For accurate information on Ether and our Tradition- http://www.paradigmaonline.com My own experiments have proven that there is a direct connection between mind and the nature of the quantum foam. The OP, however, seems to have no true grasp of this relationship or, indeed, the very nature of Ether itself. Ether is NOT the quantum foam. If the QF is Jell-O (and my research has shown many startling similarities. Quantum Entanglement is roughly analogous to the double-grape-matrix), then the Ether is whipped cream overlaying that Jell-O. Some truly intriguing applications of Jell-O were developed by Professor Norton Nimnull. Due to a vast Conspiracy to surpress his work, Nimnull is unable to publish openly. Instead, he presented his idead through the medium of a Disney cartoon series, Chip And Dale Rescue Rangers. Although, the specifics of his seismic Jell-O-Fruit-Quake are not given on the show, it is an earthshaking idea.
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And the award for "Worst Use of Too Much Time On One's Hands by an Otherwise Semi-Rational Person" goes to (the envelope, please):
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FireFly-Them's Fightin' Words!
I have MUCH more time on my hands than Scylla. Oh,...waitaminnut...you said rational.
Nevermind. Fenris, could the creamy layer have been Jell-O pudding mixed with dehydrated milk? Thus, you would only need to add water. HereYou-What has the Hebrew alphabet got to do with this? |
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DocCathode, it is obvious to me that you are too absorbed in the physical world. You must learn to reach out through Spirit, perhaps in the wild parts of the Umbra will you find truth and contentment.
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Re: Poor Sleepers
[quote]Originally posted by DocCathode
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Hey Hiryuu, pass me that spliff, man...
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Does this suggest that every wave construction is sentient? I will stop here, I assume that the lower points rest on the upper points being true? Lets clear these up first. Wait, wait... I've got it... Back to the Hebrew letters for a minute. All you have to do to COMPLETELY convert me to your wacky ideas is this: Describe some/any experiment that I can perform where I will actually SEE the Hebrew alphabet. |
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Now, here's the real question:
Can I too post a site full of drooling nonsense and meaningless manufractured buzzwords and have people like Hiyruu proselytize for me? 'Cos I have some great ideas about clams . . . |
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I'm still waiting for Hiyruu to explain how one is supposed to examine/prove his theory. I wasn't being rhetorical when I asked. I really want to know exactly how he intends to gather evidence for his notions.
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