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#1
11-07-2001, 05:28 PM
 Hiyruu Guest Join Date: Aug 2001
I've posted my ideas about the number Phi (1.618...) and the unified field theory here before, and people have not accepted it that well. So, I have changed my approach, I will present the ideas in the simplest terms possible.

I will refrence this article originally written by Dan Winter for public use: http://www.soulinvitation.com/introduction/index.html
Please read the entire thing before you comment, again, this is the simplest I can present it.

Here is an excerpt, but I encourage you to read the whole article:

Quote:
 1. In a unified field everything is waves moving about in a universal jello of particle/waves. 2. In that universal jello or "ether" the only self-organizing shape is the donut or smoke rings or torus. 3. Those donuts or vortex pairs arrange themselves like trumpets into the faces of the platonic solids, and this is called the atomic table (matter). (1,3cube,5dodec,7icos donut vortex pair make 2,6,10,14 electron-s,p,d,f subshells:all matter) Also, the self organizing Spiral which delineates the self organizing 7 color map moebius on the surface of that same donut, viewed from the symmetry of the tetrahedron is the Hebrew alphabet. Letter's are merely elements of spin symmetry, which by virtue of being perfectly embedded , allow the hologram inside your head to phase entrain the denser hologram (matter) outside. 4. When a wave in this jello or ether moves in a line it is called energy, when the same wave is "sucked" into a circle, the slight gyroscopic resistance to change of position, is called "matter". In physics, INERTIA stored is the ONLY definition of mass. The wave moving in a circle creates matter (as opposed to "doesn't matter".) This is called quantum mechanics, because elements of the wave spin can only stand still when meeting themselves from opposing directions. This separates the jello or ether into packets or envelopes of waves, storing spin inertia. So "the creator" (fractal attraction) is the principle of self-reference (self/awareness) which steered the wave into the circle, from the line. I am that I am. 5. Something has to provide "centering force" to hold the wave going in a circle in the same place (widening gyre with a center that will not hold?). 6. This "centering force" is what happens when waves "collapse", "implosively" toward a center. IMPORTANTLY: this collapse inward function is called many names: a. implosion is to burst inward and inward flow only. b. gravity is the attraction between two massive bodies. The name of the attracting force. c. magnetic monopole,, d. scalar is a quantity such as it's length wave that is completely specified by its magnitude and has no direction. From the latin ladder e. Recursion is to happen, to come up or show up again, repeatedly. f. self reference 7. Waves get this permission to CONcresce (gather all crests to one point) when they all arrange their distance from that point by PHI or Golden Mean ratio. This is because this allows "recursive" or repeated adding AND multiplying of their interference. This perfects constructive interference from many directions at once. 8. Therefore gravity occurs BECAUSE the outer waves nest (electron for example on an atomic scale, or long wave ley lines on a planetary one) BECOMES SELF SIMILAR or recursive to the inner waves nest (neutrons in an atom.) This pattern on the outside repeated in the pattern on the inside is the definition of FRACTALITY. THIS MEANS LITERALLY THAT FRACTALITY (charge arranged into self-embedding) CREATES GRAVITY. (And this will be born out in a revolution as physics proves gravity and atmosphere can be stabilized by perfecting the geometry of embedding, see http://www.danwinter.com/predictions ) 9. When waves are drawn to a focus, they automatically sort out those, which cannot pass the laws of symmetry to let them pass the vortex which focus creates. This means that WHATEVER CREATES FOCUS CREATES SORTING. This also means that THE TEST OF PERFECT SYMMETRY, IS THE SAME AS THE TEST FOR WHAT IS PERFECTLY SHAREABLE (AS A WAVE OR IDEA OR EMOTION OR INTENT OR PERSON OR FEELING OR...). 10. Perfect fractal or recursive or nestable or "embedable" symmetry is thus literally a test for pure intention. 11. When waves can agree to meet sustainably this is called "sacred". 12. The Golden Mean or PHI ratio perfects recursion/embedding/intention/gravity/awareness/responseability/implosion/mass/sorting.. 13. The role of MIND among waves, is to align the still points, which guides them into the PHI ratio of recursion permitting them to stay still. They get permission to stand as wave (called "eck" -or charge- in "stasis" / ecstacy). This creates the tingle in your body in the place you have chosen to place your attention, you have aligned field effects to "concrescence" or centering. This compression of the ethers is the principle by which matter is created out of light. 14. When the harmonics of a brain (eeg) or heart (ekg) or planet (schuman series), enter into nesting by powers of PHI, then that (or any) biological oscillator becomes: a. self organizing b. self aware c. eck-static examples include the sustainable elimination of addiction and attention deficit in brainwave neurofeedback work using this principle. 15. The power of placing a limit ("power of limits" by doczi) on any oscillator is that in order to emerge from chaos, IT MUST TAKE THE PATH OF PHI-LO taxis. (Perfect branching based on PHI.) examples include stock market becomes predictable when volume harmonics become PHI / and heart waves become sustainable (all chronic diseases end) when the harmonics arrange themselves into Phi embedability. 16. EKG harmonics only Heartlink/ ASCEND into this perfect fractal or "heart rate variability" when you feel wonder/compassion/truth because this exactly corresponds to what is electrically distributable or shareable. 17. The reason "only love bends the light, so therefore only love creates" is because this feeling of compassion permits compression, which permits centering which draws in the linear light into the circle. The same electrical centering force/literal gravity of glandular emotion creates steerage among wormholes and dimensions. This is why perfect compression is identical to compassion. Both are examples of successful sharing (symmetry) of space. To understand this more literally, consider this. At the moment of apparent bliss/ or compassion the heart invarianbly appears to create harmonics spaced near .618 Golden Ratio (ref 1, ref 2). The only possible sustainable 3D geometry which is that nesting geometry is the charge implosion associated with waves in the dodeca stellation. (See Grail animation - perfect embedding). This clearly is that origin of gravity, namely that self-similarity / fractality in 3D is what creates the one way suction inward called gravity. (As waves are sucked in thru the speed of light). This is the only effective way sucking or bending the light out of it's line (energy) into a circle (gyroscopically the origin of stored inertia called mass). Embedding - amounts to representing well - WHAT IS OUTSIDE YOU, AS IF IT WERE INSIDE. So not only does embedding by long wave phi ratio (lo phi) create the only possible inward imploding centering force to bend the light, IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT ULTIMATELY IT IS THAT EXACT PRINCIPLE WHICH IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY TO CREATE (MATTER OUT OF LIGHT). (Since the light won't continue nesting it's quanta in a circle unless that centering force caused by embedding remains. ) This would explain further why planets only sustain gravity by assuming an embeddable (dodeca) shape to their long waves (grid). And in so doing, as Gurdjieff said, begin to experience gravity relations erotically - in somewhat the same way as coherent emotions feed the Earth.
#2
11-07-2001, 05:39 PM
 Greyson3 Guest Join Date: Feb 2000
my cat's breath smells like cat food
#3
11-07-2001, 05:42 PM
 Ferrous Guest Join Date: Aug 2001
I like my universal jello with whipped cream.
#4
11-07-2001, 05:43 PM
 Mighty Maximino Guest Join Date: Oct 2000
And this theory predicts that . . .?

Seriously, give me something that I can go observe. Fill in these blanks:

My theory explains ____ more satisfactorily than existing physics.

Because of this, the observed _____ that we currently have trouble explaining matches my theory's prediction of _____. Further, if you were to do _____ test, the theory predicts that ____ will occur.

Fill 'em in or go home, please.

(Mmmm. Universal jello. Does that go with Soul Donuts?)
#5
11-07-2001, 06:05 PM
 Monster104 Guest Join Date: Apr 2000
I bent my wookie.
#6
11-07-2001, 06:14 PM
 Kamandi Guest Join Date: Mar 2001
My God! It's full of stars...
#7
11-07-2001, 06:17 PM
 Polycarp Charter Member Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: A better place to be Posts: 26,685
Warning: Serious Post

Has anybody noticed how similar some of Hiyruu's stuff is to the Theosophism of H.P. Blavatsky?

For some reason, noting this makes me veeeery uneasy....
#8
11-07-2001, 06:24 PM
 jab1 Guest Join Date: Sep 1999
Quote:
 Originally posted by Ferrous I like my universal jello with whipped cream.
With or without fruit cocktail?
#9
11-07-2001, 06:25 PM
 theretsof Guest Join Date: Sep 2001
I love great phi theories

Apple phi, pumpkin phi, banana cream phi

To quote the esteemed philosopher H. J. Simpson:
"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhwwwwwwwwww"
(it works better if you picture the stream of saliva)
#10
11-07-2001, 06:39 PM
 Darwin's Finch Guest Join Date: May 2001
You forgot "universal jello phi".
#11
11-07-2001, 06:42 PM
 panamajack Guest Join Date: Apr 2000
Polycarp, I didn't know who Blavatsky was until you mentioned her, but after looking I realize I had heard the beliefs before. I also find this brief article Let's Take Hitler. Ignoring the conclusions the author makes, is this a fair assessment of Blavatsky (and why we have reason to be alarmed)?

By the way, are Blavatsky's writings as strangely unclear as these, or are you talking about the ideas? Reading this stuff is so odd ... it's as if a computer had generated the phrases, but not quite, just a little too human, and yet not exactly what an absolute lunatic's ravings would be.

I skimmed through the article linked to in the OP. What's odd is that the 'Questioner' appears to speak rationally and normally at first, but over time seems to lose it. Yet the answers maintain the gobbledygook phraseology throughout.
#12
11-07-2001, 06:43 PM
 Czarcasm Charter Member Charter Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: The Lazarus Pit Posts: 30,322
Does Universal Jello Phi replace both metric and standard Jello Phi? If so, this could free up a whole shelf in my refrigerator!
#13
11-07-2001, 06:50 PM
 Donnie B. Guest Join Date: Sep 2001
Quote:
 Originally posted by Hiyruu I've posted my ideas about the number Phi (1.618...) and the unified field theory here before, and people have not accepted it that well.
Really? That's odd.
#14
11-07-2001, 06:56 PM
 robby Charter Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 4,388
The Great Pumpkin Theory

From Hiyruu's website:

Quote:
 Could this "Principle of Pure Principle.." of SHAPE be the key to every other discipline including especially biological immortality? (and the physics of PEACEmaking?
No.

Quote:
 from dan winter (permission to reprint and adapth is hereby given by this author) ...approaching 100 million bytes of lively animated & deep SACRED GEOMETRY & COHERENT EMOTION on the web...
What a waste of perfectly good storage media.

Quote:
 The wave moving in a circle creates matter (as opposed to "doesn't matter".)
Hmm... So it's "matter" vs. "doesn't matter."
I need to remember that for my physics class tomorrow.

#15
11-07-2001, 06:59 PM
 Drastic Guest Join Date: Feb 2001
There's always room for jello.

The sort of phi I've always found to be a lot more interesting is the phenomenon in cognitive perception studies. A dot of one color is flashed by some sort of apparatus, and then a number of milliseconds later, a dot of another color, a short distance away. The nifty thing is, people perceive a single dot, moving quickly between the points, and changing color at the halfway point--where no dot was ever displayed.

Doubtless, that sort of oddity of perceptual trickery is explained if we could only grasp this...whatever it is. It makes me think of Bucky Fuller's "Synergetics," only written by someone with a PCP drip permanently installed into his cortex, and who probably never came up with anything practical like geodesic construction.
#16
11-07-2001, 07:00 PM
 Scylla Guest Join Date: Jan 2000
I've read the Op 4 times.

And, the whole point of quantum mechanics (of which I know very little, but aspire) is that the same rules of the macro universe do not apply to quanta and vice cersa. That's why they are so difficult to determine.

You are immediately making the rather severe error of ommitting this consideration in your theory and assuming that the rules of quanta apply to the macro world.

Which is provably false unless you are willing to provide me with some macro universe jello or donuts with compassion and self-determination.
#17
11-07-2001, 07:01 PM
 Freyr Guest Join Date: May 2000
Hiyruu wrote:

1. In a unified field everything is waves moving about in a universal jello of particle/waves.

2. In that universal jello or "ether" the only self-organizing shape is the donut or smoke rings or torus.

3. Those donuts or vortex pairs arrange themselves like trumpets into the faces of the platonic solids, and this is called the atomic table (matter).

Well, there's your problem right there, putting ether, donuts and trumpets in universal jello! You need miniature marshmellows, carrots sticks and marachino cherries! And your flavor of universal jello matters, too! Are you using orange, lime, cherry or watermelon? Someone get Chef Troy in here with a good dessert cookbook!

On a slightly more serious note, I agree with Mighty Maximino. Give us something we can tangible about this theory, predicitions that match observable phenomenon.
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#18
11-07-2001, 07:03 PM
 Dave Stewart BANNED Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 937
Quote:
 a. self organizing b. self aware c. eck-static
Sounds like what is going on in my dirty laundry basket. Those gym socks need a wash, damnit!

Wasn't the movie American Phi about

Quote:
 10. Perfect fractal or recursive or nestable or "embedable" symmetry is thus literally a test for pure intention
?
#19
11-07-2001, 07:12 PM
 robby Charter Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 4,388
Quote:
 Originally posted by panamajack ...Reading this stuff is so odd ... it's as if a computer had generated the phrases, but not quite, just a little too human, and yet not exactly what an absolute lunatic's ravings would be. I skimmed through the article linked to in the OP. What's odd is that the 'Questioner' appears to speak rationally and normally at first, but over time seems to lose it. Yet the answers maintain the gobbledygook phraseology throughout.
I was struck by this as well. The "questioner" started off so rationally, but soon lapsed into ALL CAPS and INCOHERENCE, that is, GIBBERISH. Perhaps it's contagious?

And I may be naive, but this is exactly what I picture an absolute lunatic's ravings are like. At least an absolute lunatic that can apparently type and put together a website.
#20
11-07-2001, 07:39 PM
 tracer Charter Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Silicon Valley, Cal., USA Posts: 15,237
In the OP, Hiyruu quoted Dan Winter's article as saying:

Quote:
 8. Therefore gravity occurs BECAUSE the outer waves nest (electron for example on an atomic scale, or long wave ley lines on a planetary one)
LEY LINES?!

Well ... even if the rest of the OP wasn't already a load of Dingo's Kidneys, this alone would automatically throw it into the Loony Bin. Ley lines are figments of overzealous New Agers' imaginations:
http://www.skepdic.com/leylines.html
#21
11-07-2001, 07:48 PM
 Fenris Guest Join Date: Jan 2000
Jell-O Patrol, on the prowl

As a member of the Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] patrol, I shall be reporting your gross violation of the Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] name and trademark to the Jell-Otm authorities.

Your use of Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym], an important and vital part of our nation's economy not only violates copyright, damages the intellectual value as well as copyright of Jell-Otm, but by infringing on Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym]'s good name with your crackpot theories, might very well upset the already fragile economy, thus undermining any HOPE for a quick recovery, thus bringing this mighty nation to it's knees!

Traitor.

You will be hearing from Kraft Food[sym]ä[/sym]'s lawyers forthwith.

In the meantime, how 'bout taking a fun test. I bet you score over 50. Go on. Take it. It'll be FUN!

Fenris

BTW: Does anyone remember a product called Jell-O 1,2,3[sym]Ò[/sym]? It was essentially Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] that seperated into three layers, a normal Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym]-y layer, a sort of creamy layer and a frothy layer on top. It was weird, but addictive. I've come close to duplicating it by putting Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] in the blender and whumping the bejezus out of it, but all I get is Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] 1,3. I can't get the creamy layer....any suggestions?
#22
11-07-2001, 09:17 PM
 Fenris Guest Join Date: Jan 2000
Hey, Hiyruu.....I've set your theories to song.

Come over here and take a look!

Fenris
#23
11-07-2001, 09:33 PM
 Some Guy Guest Join Date: Oct 2000
Re: The Great Pumpkin Theory

Quote:
 Originally posted by robby Hmm... So it's "matter" vs. "doesn't matter." I need to remember that for my physics class tomorrow.
What is mind?

It doesn't matter.

What is matter?

Never mind.

:gd&r:
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#24
11-07-2001, 10:10 PM
 erislover Guest Join Date: Nov 2000
Hiyruu

There is no "æther." You are aware of the experiments which demonstrated such, right? (Was it the Michaelson-Morley experiments? Anyone? Beuller?)
#25
11-07-2001, 10:16 PM
 Duck Duck Goose Guest Join Date: May 2000
This is probably totally pointless, but I'll say it anyway.

There's no debate in the OP. Helloooo? This is a "posted without comment" hit 'n' run. Not meaning to tell the mods their business, but aren't all threads dealing with deep observations on Jello and/or donuts supposed to be posted in MPSIMS?

fenris, i thought your "test" was going to be the naked jello wrestling test, but it wasn't, and i can't find it in the archives
#26
11-07-2001, 10:50 PM
 Fenris Guest Join Date: Jan 2000
Quote:
 Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose This is probably totally pointless, but I'll say it anyway. There's no debate in the OP. Helloooo? This is a "posted without comment" hit 'n' run. Not meaning to tell the mods their business, but aren't all threads dealing with deep observations on Jello and/or donuts supposed to be posted in MPSIMS?
Sorry to disagree on this point, Duckie, but it kind of is a debate...at least PHIyruu will come back to debate his point, if his previous threads of this nature are any indication.

If we allow (and we do) "EINSTEIN WAS WRONG!" threads in GD, as long as the Mods/Admins feel Phi-Rue isn't trolling, I can't see a better place for them.

Think of it as witnessing and it might make some more sense. It also helps if you realize that a lot of what he seems (as far as I can tell) is proving that the soul is made up of vortex-trumpets in a golden spiral PHI ratio.

And if we're foolin' around with the soul, then we're firmly in GD territory!

Fenris (I couldn't find the Jell-O wrestling link either.)
#27
11-07-2001, 11:08 PM
 Jeu_D'esprit Guest Join Date: Dec 2000
What a great ECK-anar joke.

The fun comes from reading serious responses.

Hee-Har !!!

Cheers
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#28
11-07-2001, 11:55 PM
 Kaje Guest Join Date: Oct 1999
Re: Hiyruu

Quote:
 Originally posted by erislover There is no "æther." You are aware of the experiments which demonstrated such, right? (Was it the Michaelson-Morley experiments? Anyone? Beuller?)
seriously...mysterious ethers are so middle-ages. Go sulk in a monastery if all you want to do is wildly speculate with no intention of making sure your theories are consistent with each other or, more importantly, the real world.

Or better yet, read a book... doesn't even matter which one... Hell I bet you'd get a better understanding of physical laws from "Go dog go" than those delusions you seem so fond of.
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#29
11-08-2001, 12:06 AM
 Hiyruu Guest Join Date: Aug 2001
Actually, perhaps this thread should be moved to the "opinions" forum, it was meant to give an introduction to the hypothesis, which would set the ground work for a possible debate at a later date.
#30
11-08-2001, 05:14 AM
 sturmhauke Guest Join Date: Nov 2000
Hiyruu, dude, your source needs to lay off the Circus Peanuts. Universal Jello? Holograms inside my head? Erotic gravity relations? Tell me, do you really believe this stuff or are you playing a joke?
#31
11-08-2001, 05:40 AM
 SPOOFE Guest Join Date: Apr 2000
Hiyruu... the biggest flaw in all your theories is this: How do we test them? How do we figure out if your theories are accurate or not? What evidence do you have that your theory is so? If you have no evidence, then there is no significance to the theory.
#32
11-08-2001, 06:10 AM
 TwistofFate Guest Join Date: Jul 1999
whoo Dude, I have to say, your ideas intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Hiyruu, your "science" has no corroberating evidence, no testable phenomena, and no visible results. As a result of this, it does not stand up to existing physics.

I have read pretty much all of your threads about Phi. I have given up trying to explain using proper science that the theories you have presented are impossible.

So I am about to do something I never thought I would do.

I will debate you on a level playing field.

I propose the following conditions.

1. As long you do not reference Dan Winter, I will not reference the scientific community.

1. Do not expect me to accept any axioms. explain any corellations you use, and show your work. I will attempt to do the same.

1. I will use the basic rules of physics. You can use the basic rules of your theory set out above.

Do we have a deal?
#33
11-08-2001, 09:25 AM
 Miaowara Tomokato Guest Join Date: Sep 2001
What I got from the linked article...

...was a nostalgia for the Cannabis of yesteryear.
Be honest. Did you recheck this thread after you sobered up? Are you embarrassed?
#34
11-08-2001, 09:26 AM
 Duck Duck Goose Guest Join Date: May 2000
Quote:
 Actually, perhaps this thread should be moved to the "opinions" forum, it was meant to give an introduction to the hypothesis, which would set the ground work for a possible debate at a later date.
Neener neener, Fenris.
#35
11-08-2001, 09:38 AM
 Fenris Guest Join Date: Jan 2000
Quote:
Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose
Quote:
 Actually, perhaps this thread should be moved to the "opinions" forum, it was meant to give an introduction to the hypothesis, which would set the ground work for a possible debate at a later date.
Neener neener, Fenris.
OH YEAH? Well your muddah wears ARMY boots! And Phiyruu only said that because he was mad at me for the song I posted. O'course he's gonna take your side. You're not fair!

I'm taking my ball and going home!

Fenris
(And I still say this counts as witnessing. If I do an ATMB thread, DDG it's because I'm actually curious as to this point.)
#36
11-08-2001, 11:03 AM
 scotth Guest Join Date: Aug 2001
Hiyruu

I suggest switching brands of toilet paper and see if you can still post this with a straight face next week.

Even in the heights of a complete LSD bender, I don't think this would make sense or seem important. That is setting the bar low indeed.
#37
11-08-2001, 11:29 AM
 DocCathode Guest Join Date: Jul 2000
Poor Sleepers

Quote:
 Originally posted by erislover There is no "æther." You are aware of the experiments which demonstrated such, right? (Was it the Michaelson-Morley experiments? Anyone? Beuller?)
Ether is VERY real. I and every other Son(I prefer the term Etherist) know this. However, the GreyFaces, voted to remove Ether from the consensus.

They proceeded to attack Ether on two fronts. First, their scientists spread theories (such as relativity) that conflicted with, and seemingly disproved, Ether. Second, the Cabal Of Pure Thought, currently known as The New World Order, released pseudoscientific ramblings made to appear as defending the Ether. This discredited us still further.
For accurate information on Ether and our Tradition-

My own experiments have proven that there is a direct connection between mind and the nature of the quantum foam. The OP, however, seems to have no true grasp of this relationship or, indeed, the very nature of Ether itself. Ether is NOT the quantum foam. If the QF is Jell-O (and my research has shown many startling similarities. Quantum Entanglement is roughly analogous to the double-grape-matrix), then the Ether is whipped cream overlaying that Jell-O.

Some truly intriguing applications of Jell-O were developed by Professor Norton Nimnull. Due to a vast Conspiracy to surpress his work, Nimnull is unable to publish openly. Instead, he presented his idead through the medium of a Disney cartoon series, Chip And Dale Rescue Rangers. Although, the specifics of his seismic Jell-O-Fruit-Quake are not given on the show, it is an earthshaking idea.
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#38
11-08-2001, 11:54 AM
 RTFirefly Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Maryland Posts: 24,439
And the award for "Worst Use of Too Much Time On One's Hands by an Otherwise Semi-Rational Person" goes to (the envelope, please):

Quote:
 Originally posted by Scylla I've read the Op 4 times.
::flees::
#39
11-08-2001, 12:05 PM
 DocCathode Guest Join Date: Jul 2000
FireFly-Them's Fightin' Words!

I have MUCH more time on my hands than Scylla. Oh,...waitaminnut...you said rational.
Nevermind.

Fenris, could the creamy layer have been Jell-O pudding mixed with dehydrated milk? Thus, you would only need to add water.

HereYou-What has the Hebrew alphabet got to do with this?
#40
11-08-2001, 03:47 PM
 jab1 Guest Join Date: Sep 1999
Quote:
 Originally posted by Hiyruu Actually, perhaps this thread should be moved to the "opinions" forum, it was meant to give an introduction to the hypothesis, which would set the ground work for a possible debate at a later date.
So why, pray tell, did you not post it in IMHO in the first freakin' place?
#41
11-08-2001, 04:30 PM
 bonzer Guest Join Date: Jun 2001
Quote:
 So why, pray tell, did you not post it in IMHO in the first freakin' place?
Because there was nothing humble about it?
#42
11-08-2001, 05:54 PM
 sturmhauke Guest Join Date: Nov 2000
DocCathode, it is obvious to me that you are too absorbed in the physical world. You must learn to reach out through Spirit, perhaps in the wild parts of the Umbra will you find truth and contentment.
#43
11-08-2001, 06:22 PM
 Kaje Guest Join Date: Oct 1999
Quote:
 Originally posted by sturmhauke DocCathode, it is obvious to me that you are too absorbed in the physical world. You must learn to reach out through Spirit, perhaps in the wild parts of the Umbra will you find truth and contentment.
The Umbra certainly lead me to truth and contentment...and they make great soccer equipment too.
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#44
11-08-2001, 06:43 PM
 Captain Amazing Charter Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 22,036
Re: Poor Sleepers

[quote]Originally posted by DocCathode
[b]
Quote:
 Originally posted by erislover This discredited us still further.
Reality deviant...
#45
11-08-2001, 08:39 PM
 heresiarch Guest Join Date: Jul 2001
Re: Jell-O 1 2 3

Quote:
 Originally posted by Fenris BTW: Does anyone remember a product called Jell-O 1,2,3[sym]Ò[/sym]? It was essentially Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] that seperated into three layers, a normal Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym]-y layer, a sort of creamy layer and a frothy layer on top. It was weird, but addictive. I've come close to duplicating it by putting Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] in the blender and whumping the bejezus out of it, but all I get is Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym] 1,3. I can't get the creamy layer....any suggestions?
You are using Universal Jell-O[sym]Ò[/sym], right? Maybe you just need to add some Quantum Foam[sym]Ò[/sym]. WARNING! Don't freeze Jell-O 1,2,3[sym]Ò[/sym] or you'll get [b]Ice 9[b]! Ice 9 is very dangerous. Always boil Ice 9 before you dispose of it!
#46
11-08-2001, 08:56 PM
 Dave Stewart BANNED Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 937
Hey Hiryuu, pass me that spliff, man...
#47
11-08-2001, 10:45 PM
 scotth Guest Join Date: Aug 2001
Quote:
 Originally posted by Hiyruu 1. In a unified field everything is waves moving about in a universal jello of particle/waves.
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 2. In that universal jello or "ether" the only self-organizing shape is the donut or smoke rings or torus. 3. Those donuts or vortex pairs arrange themselves like trumpets into the faces of the platonic solids, and this is called the atomic table (matter). (1,3cube,5dodec,7icos donut vortex pair make 2,6,10,14 electron-s,p,d,f subshells:all matter) Also, the self organizing Spiral which delineates the self organizing 7 color map moebius on the surface of that same donut, viewed from the symmetry of the tetrahedron is the Hebrew alphabet. Letter's are merely elements of spin symmetry, which by virtue of being perfectly embedded , allow the hologram inside your head to phase entrain the denser hologram (matter) outside.
If the ONLY self organizing shape is the donut (see 2), I guess there is no such thing as a self organizing spiral. I guess that rules out the Hebrew alphabet too, damn.
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 4. When a wave in this jello or ether moves in a line it is called energy, when the same wave is "sucked" into a circle, the slight gyroscopic resistance to change of position, is called "matter". In physics, INERTIA stored is the ONLY definition of mass. The wave moving in a circle creates matter (as opposed to "doesn't matter".) This is called quantum mechanics, because elements of the wave spin can only stand still when meeting themselves from opposing directions. This separates the jello or ether into packets or envelopes of waves, storing spin inertia. So "the creator" (fractal attraction) is the principle of self-reference (self/awareness) which steered the wave into the circle, from the line. I am that I am.
I've got to ask this... Do you know what a fractal is? What does fractal have to do with attraction other than you put the two words near each other in your sentence?

Does this suggest that every wave construction is sentient?

I will stop here, I assume that the lower points rest on the upper points being true? Lets clear these up first.

Wait, wait... I've got it... Back to the Hebrew letters for a minute. All you have to do to COMPLETELY convert me to your wacky ideas is this: Describe some/any experiment that I can perform where I will actually SEE the Hebrew alphabet.
#48
11-08-2001, 11:02 PM
 andros Guest Join Date: Sep 1999
Now, here's the real question:

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Can I too post a site full of drooling nonsense and meaningless manufractured buzzwords and have people like Hiyruu proselytize for me?

'Cos I have some great ideas about clams . . .
#49
11-08-2001, 11:23 PM
 Dijon Warlock Guest Join Date: Aug 2000
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 Originally posted by scotth Wait, wait... I've got it... Back to the Hebrew letters for a minute. All you have to do to COMPLETELY convert me to your wacky ideas is this: Describe some/any experiment that I can perform where I will actually SEE the Hebrew alphabet.
Aw, man...you should check out this site. It will all come together for you: Golden Mean Spirals, Seven Color Toroidal Maps, and yes...even the Hebrew Alphabet. Don't know if he's on to something or not, but the website's a trip. Heavy on the graphics, though. Enjoy.
#50
11-09-2001, 05:03 AM
 SPOOFE Guest Join Date: Apr 2000
I'm still waiting for Hiyruu to explain how one is supposed to examine/prove his theory. I wasn't being rhetorical when I asked. I really want to know exactly how he intends to gather evidence for his notions.

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