The Genre of Hip Hop and Rap in general has been popular for a long time, so I’m wondering, will this portion of music make less of an impact the longer it’s around and if so, what up and coming music scenes will replace it? Because where I’m sitting, there doesn’t seem to be anything definitive enough to replace the genre.
I’ve heard a few people say rap is like disco, I don’t know about Hip/hop, seems to be still going strong, unless I’m mistaken, although sometimes I have a guilty pleasure of wishin’ Kanye West was goin’ out of style.
Rap still sounds the same to me. Not wanting to threadshit or anything, but really, a guy talking over music is still a guy talking over music, isn’t it?
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And isn’t blues/rock/punk etc just people playing 3 chords on their guitar?
“Rap” as you define it has been around at least as long as jazz has. It just got formalized/specialized a lot later. Sure lots of it is shit, but that’s been true since it’s inception and it’s also true for most other forms of music. IMO it’s just too diverse to ever really go stale. Hell, there are still some interesting/innovative disco tunes produced even today, and disco is a much more strictly defined genre.
The same as a guy singing over music is the same as any other. There’s a wide variety of hip hop acts, and many non-hip hop acts that employ rapping. Jay-Z, Dessa, the Beastie Boys, Aesop Rock, Kanye, Nas, The Roots, Eminem, MF DOOM, Sage Francis, Talib Kweli, and even Linkin Park and Will Smith don’t have a whole lot in common besides their method of vocalization.
Would you say The Beatles, Poison, Nickelback, Radiohead, and Blur are similar based on the lead vocalists singing and being rock bands?
Even not being a particular fan of hip-hop or rap, I can see that there’s a huge amount of variation within the genre. Some rappers seem content to shout their lyrics over a deafening bass and/or drum track, but others use intricate instrumental arrangements that leave a lot of open “space”, or change from rapping to singing at key points in the song or chorus. Also, while we think of hip hop and rap as relatively new, you can hear rap-like songs from the earliest days of R&B, postwar blues, and rock and roll. Chuck Berry and Ray Charles did a couple of “talk” songs. And speaking of Ray Charles, some of his vocal track in “I Got A Woman” was used in a rap song a few years ago. I don’t follow it enough to say who the rapper is or what the song was, but it was little short of amazing how this fifty-year-old vocal track fit into the tapestry of this modern rap song.
I think it’s safe to say that the genre has roots that go far deeper than most people realize, and it won’t be going anywhere soon. A strong foundation is what makes a genre durable, same as with rock and roll.
As others have said, I suspect there’s enough diversity that rap will be around for quite some time. It will continue to change and progress, and rap 50 years from now will sound quite different, but it will still be rap in the same way that modern jazz has a lot of variety and sounds different than older jazz, but is still defineable as jazz.
At least those guys are actually playing and writing the music themselves, not just sampling recordings from real musicians and babbling a bunch of moronic obscenities over it.
I don’t know the difference between hip and rap. It all sounds the same to me. Some asswipe poseur bragging about himslf and saying “bitch” ovber an over again while somebody else’s music plays in the background. It’s not music. It’s not a real artform and it’s always been garbage from day one.
It’s not at all the same as singing. Singing involves actually singing different notes. Rap is a monotone. And at least those rock bands acually compose and play their own music instead of just stealing samples from sombody else. Any douchebag can stand there and chant swear words. How does anyone tell the difference between a good rapper and a bad rapper? I’ve never been able to figure that out. There’s no talent or skill required. It’s just talking. They all sound exactly the same.
Poetry is an artform, but it isn’t music. If you want to argue that rap is just spoken poetry, then my reponse is that it’s SHITTY poetry and there’s utterly no musicality to it. No melody or harmony. Just montone babbling over somebody else’s music. It takes no ability at all. I could get in front of a mike with no rehearsal and do it just as well as any of those idiots with the gold teeth and their pants around their knees. It’s just reading out loud.
Yeah, 'cause it’s so hard to use the same 3 chords that everyone’s been using since the 50s and sampling is just easy. Besides, who cares about what or how you’re saying your lyrics.
As **BigT **said, you admit ignorance, so your opinion is nil. I’m not even much of a fan of hip hop, but generalizing like you just did is intellectually dishonest at best – a lot of rappers write their own material, and a lot of singers in other genres don’t – and you know it. If you don’t like the style of music, fine, but don’t try making up lies to justify it.
Also, rapping is monotonous and nothing but swears? Funny, this isn’t very monotonous, and there’s not a single swear to be heard in the entire song.
Folks, let it go. Let Dio have his fun. The rest of us can focus on actually trying to answer the OP’s question, which was, will rap last, and if not, what will replace it?
I think the first part has already been answered: Rap will last. Nothing will replace it, unless you mean in purely economical terms. You know, like disco replacing 60s rock.
I took the question to mean in the sense that rap could wind up being a fad (although a long-lived one) like disco was. That perhaps there will be some other fad music genre that will come after it’s gone.
But I am on the same page as you; I think rap’s here to stay.
I’ve already posted a video putting it back another 10 years. I’m fairly certain I can put “proto rap” back to the late 50s. Not that I really care how old this stuff is.
