18 Months??? That's All???

Period.

Oh man this guy is sick in the head. How can anyone do something like this just blows my mind, and then to want to do it to their own daughter? Shit! I think I just blew a synapse.

If they put this guy in the general popuation in prison, and let everyone there know what he did, it STILL wouldn’t come close to justice.

I would be more than happy to KICK THE EVER LOVING FUCK out of this man and the judge that failed to sentence this guy to the max.

18 months? It boggles the fucking mind.

I’d put both these guys in the general population, knowing that the felons probably will have equal affection for them both.

I am not a lawyer, but I sleep with one (though not as often as he’d like!). Here’s my take-

Sounds like the prosecution had evidence problems, or other problems with the case. As a former prosecutor, hubby would have gone to the dark side of the moon to get this cretin the harshest sentence possible, if he could.

I know that the article stated that the man “confessed” to at least one officer of the court, but that isn’t always admissible.

This reeks of a plea bargain due to a weak case, for whatever reason. Whether they had evidence problems, witness problems, a problem with the confession or search, whatever- it still sucks and I am deeply saddened.

Having said that, I will be much happier when this guy gets the Dahmer treatment while in custody.

Most of you would would be surprised - and sickened - at the “incest” exception to sex crimes. In too many jurisdictions, prosecutors and compliant judges tend to treat incest offenders as a less dangerous class of predator - as though growing your own victims somehow is more palatable than snatching them from elsewhere.

bdgr’s story is not unusual.

In Virginia, incest - “adultery or fornication with any person whom he or she is forbidden by law to marry” - is defined in the section of law concerning morals and decency, and can be charged as a Class 5 felony. This is the same class of crime as computer fraud involving $200.

Of course, a Commonwealth’s Attorney could just as easily forget the fact that the victim is related to the rapist, and charge rape, which is punishable by life in prison. But a variety of factors make this unattractive. For one thing, charging a crime generally requires that the charging document specify when the crime occurs. But that supposes that the crime is a one-time event between strangers - “On or about August 23rd, 2000, John Doe did unlawfully and with malice…” When a child is subjected to repeated abuses, over months and years, she generally cannot come up with specific dates. Juries also want to see signs of resistance. Why didn’t the child let someone know? Why didn’t she resist? Especially when there was no force?

It’s hard to explain to a jury what happens over months and years of abuse… that the child learns that resistance does no good. The abuser doesn’t need to use force every single time.

Most every jurisdiction now has a “Rape Shield Law” of some flavor. They are intended to protect rape victims from having their previous sex lives brought out in cross-examination. In days past, if a rape victim was shown to be “unchaste,” a jury would have little sympathy for her.

Today, adult victims are mostly safe from that secondary rape by the system. But there’s an exception for young women, children underage: a defense lawyer may drag out their dirty laundry to show that their knowledge of sex has a source other than the accused and his acts. It’s a crummy trick, but it happens a lot. Judges that don’t permit it give up an issue for higher review, letting the rapist roll more dice at the Court of Appeals.

For these reasons - and others - prosecutors are often reluctant to charge incest offenders with anything other than soft charges… and more often than not, they are working in concert with “Family Services” towards “reunification” of the family. Public defenders have no choice but to work towards that as well… they are obligated to represent their client.

The kids don’t have anyone representing them.

  • Rick

Any guesses on why I don’t practice any more?

It’s not just in America this happens.

An excerpt for the lazy:

He got three years.

Why can’t the punishment for this sort of thing just be castration? Leave a lasting scar the same way these people scar their victims for life. And at the same time reduce the likelihood of a repeat offence. Shooting them would be too kind.

I’ve always been on the mind that cretins like this have something organically wrong with their brains that no amount of talk therapy can cure.

I hope that the prison’s “protective custody” cells resemble something out of Stephen King’s most terrifying nightmares.

His own 12-year old daughter!

Euthanasia…via rabid hyena.

Six years on probation is not enough. Ten years as a registered sex offender is not enough.

Not when it’s your own child. Oh no.

If it were me, and I found that my husband had tried something like that (even if we were divorced, as this girl’s parents are), there would be no trial. Well, there would, but not for him. For me. Because I’d fucking kill him myself. I’m sure I’d get jail time, but oh well. I’d rather my daughter grow up knowing that Mom offed Dad because Dad was a twisted fuck who wanted to do sick, evil things to his daughter than actually have Dad be successful in doing those sick, evil things.

I once served on a federal grand jury. Most of the cases we heard evidence on were about guns, or drugs, or guns and drugs. There were a very few other types of cases, and one involved “inappropriate touching” by a teacher. The case was federal because it occured on a junior high school located on a military base. Damn I felt for those two girls that gave evidence. It took a lot of guts, and I don’t know why they had to be treated the way adults were. They were only twelve and thirteen. You see, in a grand jury hearing the only people present are the members of the jury, the court recorder, the federal prosecuting attorney, and the evidence giver. So these girls had to walk into a room of total strangers without a mom/dad/friend to even smile for them. We the jury did vote to send it to trial though. And it was interesting to watch our fellow jurors as lips were gradually bared to show fangs, as we listened to the testimony of how the teacher put his hands on them.

Here’s how to get him. Plant a small amount of drugs on the guy and report him.

In some places he’d get life.

May someone in prison rape him and put the pictures on the Internet. Since he doesn’t think there’s anything wrong with it.

Having studied child sexual abuse and incest for years, I can say this is not an isolated case. The excuses these people give range from the fanciful (I’m just showing her another type of love) to the utterly ridiculous (A guy whose 12 year old daughter was pregnant with his child said “I passed out from drinking and she raped me.”) In another case where a guy got a 12 year old pregnant, he was interviewed in jail and said “Well, she had a crush on me and was always dressing seductively and sitting on my lap.” Montel Williams replied “No one can make you unzip your pants” and also stated if that was his daughter, he’d be the one in jail for murdering the guy.