Reposting in hopes that SA will respond.
Given that I’ve never said anything even the slightest bit like this, no, that’s not my opinion. My opinion is that your views are based on emotion and not reason, that they make no sense, and that you’re willfully ignorant of the facts. Any other moronic questions? Want to ask what I’m doing for the War on Christmas this year or how many terrorists I took into the country last week?
Yes, for a brief period between the eras of colonialism, slavery, Jim Crow, the Gilded Age, the Depression and the Dust Bowl, internment, and the horrors of the Civil Rights Act and Woodstock, everybody agreed that stealing was wrong. (I do have to partially conceded your you have a point; there was widespread agreement that stealing from people with more than you was wrong - but stealing from people with less than you was awesome!) Then a bunch of dark and female people nobody had ever noticed started demanding stuff and it got ruined. I don’t know what their problem was.
You know he doesn’t fucking know. If he looked it up online, a mulatto from a broken home might sneak into his house through the internet and murder him for his shoes.
Do you have a cite for this? Because I know for a fact that gunshot wounds from a pistol are not “far more” effective than all other methods. That’s blatantly false.
Wow, you must live in a real anomaly of a city. Not only is crime up, but rich, affluent people in nice neighborhoods are the victims.
Probably same age as you, but I don’t sit on my porch with a loaded gun warning kids to keep off my lawn.
What would be the point? There is no shortage of people around here who are happy to excuse the damage they’ve done to this country using that as the reason. Besides, they weren’t the defining qualities of that era just like the sexism and racism that exists today doesn’t seem to define society in your eyes.
Utterly ridiculous. The one has nothing to do with the other.
Certainly blacks and gays have it better now. Many women of the previous era resented the women’s movement and many women today lead stressful, unhappy lives compared to the way women lived back then, so who knows if they’re better off? One thing I do know is that millions of kids who’ve been born since then are a hell of a lot worse off, thanks to the illegitimacy rate, absentee parents, inadequate to atrocious schools, and the drugs and criminality that now permeate every school and level of society. And I know that a hell of a lot of them have become drug addicts, and that a hell of a lot of them have been murdered, and that a hell of a lot of them have committed murder, and that a hell of a lot of them will live utterly shitty lives because of the way they grew up, and that a hell of a lot of us have been and will be victimized by them, and that you’ve never shown a flicker comprehension for the role your ideology has played in creating this state of affairs or a flicker of concern over their/our plight as a result.
What is it with you clowns and “moron?” Do you really think you accomplish anything with that? Do you really think that starting to sound more like Lobohan the more we argue is really convincing anyone that you’re the intellectually superior one here? So you really think that by calling me names you have the slightest impact on my self-esteem? Are you not aware that I do have and have had input all my life from people in the real world that have given me a fairly accurate idea of my intelligence? During all my school years and during all my employment, my teachers and my co-workers and the people I worked for and with have all been smilingly effusive in their approval of my intelligence. In short, I may not be a genius, but I’m no fucking dummy and you only make yourself look stupid by calling me a moron. Especially when you continue to make fallacious errors like the following:
I haven’t told you that society can effectively defend itself against crime without reducing crime. All I’ve said is that most people who own guns buy them to protect themselves from the possibility that they may become victims of crime. You’re the one who’s illogically leapt from that to gun ownership as a crime reduction tool to society alleged defending itself from crime through gun ownership, and then to top it off you seek to ridicule me for your own ridiculous extrapolations. Moron. 
I note that you really aren’t denying any of my allegations about what liberal philosophies and practices have done to this country the last fifty years, you’re just pissed that I don’t think it was worth it. Well, you’re right about that last part. Intelligence and deliberate planned intent could have produced the same progress in human rights, as had already happened with women’s rights in having gained the vote, eliminating prohibition, and advances in the civil rights movement and legislation, all of which predated the counterculture revolution which was the causative agent for so many of the problems we have now.
I personally have never known a conservative whose attitude was “I’ve got mine, fuck those people.” I’ve known some who thought “I’ve worked hard for what I have, let them work hard for what they want,” or “Once you let the government start supporting people, it becomes a trap they never escape from.” This last has certainly proven true.
And yes, Democrats keep saying they want to pay more money to bad teachers that your unions have made it impossible to fire. And you want to pour more money into schools where you’ve dumbed down the curriculum to make it “fair” or where you’ve decided to pass kids from one grade to the next even when they haven’t learned the material because to fail them is hard on their self-esteem.
Somehow everyone, including almost everyone in the minority communities, got good educations in the fifties and sixties when local sales taxes were much lower and welfare programs and housing projects didn’t exist. Remember those well-dressed black kids trying to get into white schools in the sixties? They already knew how to read and do math and pass tests and do all the things white kids could do. You know why they can’t do that now? It isn’t because the amount of money we send to our schools has changed, it’s because our society has changed, and it’s changed in ways that make it all but impossible for them to get a good education. They don’t have two mature stable parents at home. They don’t get taught proper values. They don’t get discipline at home, and they don’t get discipline at school. They get bombarded with drugs and criminality and negative societal influences through music and youth culture. And then they have you people who created this situation in the first place defending all this crap every step of the way and and blaming all their problems on the conservatives whose values once provided them with the educations they no longer have any hope of receiving.
Sheesh! I need a drink!
No, it’s just a logical extension of your apparent belief that anyone who obviously has nice things is asking for it and deserves to be murdered. Rich, affluent people in nice neighborhoods have nice things.
Yes. Why did you think this question was aimed at you? It was pretty clearly a response to fumster’s nonsense. Even he was able to figure that out.
It would indicate that you give a shit about anything or anyone else. But you don’t.
Are Marley23 and Starving Artist having some sort of lover’s quarrel?
First time in The BBQ Pit?
Oh, I give a shit about a lot of things and a lot of people, many of whom are people and things you profess to care about.
But your side doesn’t come off very well when I do so you ignore it.
You give a shit about two groups of people: people who are just like you and people you’re afraid will rob you. Everyone else and everything else is unimportant because their lives and rights are less important than your prissy need for a pretend 1950s civility.
I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss it out of hand. You are correct that exceptions could be written into fun laws, but it won’t be simple. That is going to bring slippery slope fear lingers out of the woodwork. Fuelling the resistance to the passage of firearms reform to beyond just the gun nuts and the second amendmentsr’s.
Nah, that’s just a convenient dodge you use to try to deflect attention away from all the damage you’ve caused.
That’s not even possible. Marley is not a 12 year old boy.
Don’t forget Joe Paterno.
It may be possible. How far from the floor is Marley’s anus?
Just remember what SA gets to call it, kids, when you aren’t able to honestly rebut arguments and you have to resort to lies and misdirection instead…
Here’s a hint: Charlie Sheen! 
Yes.
What I’m commenting on is it seems you guys have some of pre-existing beef that I hadn’t noticed til this thread.
yea, because my family and I are still on food stamps and my kids are still on TennCare :rolleyes: It was so hard to break free I tell ya, they put a gun to my head and said I could never escape :smack:. It reminded me of the Hotel California