3 hours and 50 minutes until Tim Allen's new show (Last Man Standing)

8 pm on ABC

I wanted to be excited for Tim Allen but the commercials look pretty bad. Just another family sitcom. Nevertheless I will support Tim Allen and watch the premiere at least.

IIRC, he literally requested “Home Improvement, with daughters.”

You say that like it’s a bad thing.:wink:

The family sitcom is perhaps the most durable format in TV, and is the source for everything from *I Love Lucy *to *Married With Children *to The Simpsons to Arrested Development. Family sitcoms present a rich and multifaceted array of relationships, potentials for conflict and events and activities with a rich potential for humor.

You wouldn’t call *Romeo and Juliet *“just another teen romance.”

That said, the show does look like just another family sitcom.

I mean. Home Improvement was just another family sitcom. And I liked that. Tool Time helped it. And Wilson. Last Man Standing can be just another family sitcom and still be good. but I have my doubts. And I must satisfy them.

I hadn’t heard anything about this until now. How young are the daughters? I think Tim’s getting a little long in the tooth to plausibly be the father of three precocious young girls. If they’re in high school or college already, maybe.

I liked Home Improvement, though. As long as they don’t just straight-up rehash old plots (which would be tough due to the simple gender swap of the children), it shouldn’t be too bad.

I guess they looked like teenagers on the commercial. And wikipedia says one of his daughters is a single mother. So I guess they’re old. But Dan Quayle won’t be happy about the show’s lack of moral fiber

Slate.com’s review of the first two episodes, Men Without Punchlines, says:

Not sure if he requested it, but he did admit it.

I saw it…and I didn’t hate it.

Granted, some of the jokes were obviously written by hacks, but Tim Allen was funny in his delivery. And Nancy Travis still looks great.

I agree with the Slate review. A horrible PoS. Worse than Home Improvement, if that’s even possible. I was even sad to see one of my favorite comedians, Paul F. Tompkins, in a guest role.

Here’s an article on the ratings, which seemd ok, according to them:

TVbytheNumbers

Pretty possible. Home Improvement was a good sitcom. I’d hesitate at ranking it with Cheers and Frasier, but it’s certainly one step below them and shares a spot with Night Court.

Agreed. Too many people will point to bland but well-done sitcoms like Home Improvement or Everybody Loves Ramon as examples of bad TV while totally forgetting the truly awful sitcoms. Remember Caveman, which was a half hour long “comedy” with the geico spokesman? That’s a bad sitcom. For every Home Improvement there are five Homeboys From Outer Space. It’s the later that should be made fun of.

I just watched and thought: Wow, Home Improvement - again.

And then I came here and found this.

I don’t know if I’ll keep watching. I will leave it in the record queue for a few weeks, but it may end up just like Two And Half Men - basically started each week and then deleted.

I thought that was called George Lopez.

We agree to disagree, then. I can respect a total trainwreck more than bland, middle-of-the-road hackery. Shows like Home Improvement, IMO, to steal a phrase, are so bad they’re not even completely terrible.

Man, I don’t understand all the hatred for “Home Improvement”. I haven’t seen Allen’s new show yet but “Home Improvement” had GREAT slapstick humor (How will Tim Taylor hurt himself or blow something up accidentally this week?) and outrated and drove critically acclaimed “Seinfeld” off of Tuesday night. Somebody besides me had to like it.

LOL. You must made my day - thanks.