30 Rock Series Finale (spoilers as it airs)

For a second I thought that was the “real” Liz Lemon and the entire show was just her pitching story ideas, until she mentioned her great-grandmother and the cars flew past. So Kenneth is still alive (& still head of some kind of media company) 3 generations from now. And for some reason Liz’s great-granddaughther still has her last name. :dubious: Then again Liz would insist on giving Terry or Janet her name instead of Chris’s.

And yet he liked the idea about a show based on stories about a female writer for a show in New York that, it turns out, had at least one immortal character.

Sounds like a new ad campaign for Quizno’s:

Quizno’s: Don’t be a Lutz

Yes, we noticed this (but had to watch twice to be sure).

Or, the woman’s mother (or her father’s mother) just happened to marry someone with the last name Lemon.

Coming from a woman who speculates that the lack of female serial killers may be due to the sexism inherent in “the system”, that’s plausible.

It was a joke, but sometimes the Dope sounds like that to me.

I’m pretty sure when they were getting ready she called them the “Lemon-Cross” family.

I thought the exact same thing.

That’s because *every *message board sounds like that. It’s not a Dope thing, it’s an internet thing.

One rather minor element that got on my nerves was Liz saying she’d been at NBC for seven years. Well, 30 Rock has been showing her time at NBC for seven years, but in the first episode, wasn’t the premise that The Girlie Show had been on for a while to some success, but its slipping ratings forced Liz to accept Tracey Jordan much against her will?

Similarly (and I’m not entirely proud for knowing this off the top of my head), there was a moment late in the run of Night Court where the characters discuss how long they’d been working at the arraignment court (that is to say, how long the individual actors had been working on the series), with Harry, Dan and Bull (the only original characters left at that point) each having ten years. Thing is, in the first episode Harry was new, but Dan and Bull had obviously been there for some time already.

They’ve been doing stuff like that for awhile. Like saying TGS is in whatever season 30 Rock is in, despite it having been on for several years before. My WAG is that for whatever reason they’re making a distinction between “The Girlie Show” and “TGS with Tracy Jordan”. Except of course when they aren’t. :smack:

I can’t be the only one who wants a clear dishwasher now, am I?

It does sound much better than the clear toilet.

I don’t remember them saying The Girlie Show was successful. I thought the ratings were just low- unless they said otherwise somewhere, you could conclude the show was foundering in its first season.

I just figured if* The Girlie Show *had never been at least somewhat successful, low ratings would just get it cancelled instead of the network trying to keep it going it by forcing an unwanted actor onto it.

I can understand that assumption, but I don’t think they ever actually said that was the case. The show is terrible, after all.

Well, I admit putting The Girlie Show on the air was primarily an attempt to mitigate the damage done to the network after the programming disaster that was Bitch Hunter

I swear that when I was a kid, they used to have these at appliance stores - it was just a prototype/sales model with a glass door, to show you how effective the sprays were.

I think Jack just saw it as a ready made vehicle for Tracy Jordan. Reworking it would be probally be cheaper and more convenient that coming up with something from scratch.

Somewhere a network executive is probably thinking “black guy from NYC inherits a B&B in the southwest…” and not even realizing or caring where the idea came from. When you see “Chris Tucker and Cheech Marin in ‘Tortilla and Board’”, you’ll know where it came from.