8 MILE - A Review (Mild spoilers, dawg)

First, lemme just say that the title of this movie always reminds me of the only Australian restaurant here in NYC called Eight Mile Creek.

Somehow I get the feeling Eight Mile Creek in Oz is nuthin’ like 8 Mile in urban Detroit, which bears more of a resemblance to downtown Beirut.

I have to laugh at Otto’s comparison of this movie to Flashdance; they should rename it to 8 Mile - What a Feelin’! :smiley:

8 Mile kicked ass. It’s one of the best films I’ve seen all year. The performances were real.

Eminem, who plays Rabbit (not Marshall Mathers - this film is loosely based on his life) is a natural. The boy can act, yo.

Kim Basinger, who plays his trailer park mom with the heart-shaped azzzz, delivers one solid performance.

The little girl who plays Lily, his baby sister is spot on.

Also some great performances from the supporting cast, especially Rabbit’s posse who provide comic relief, and the rival gang who provide the obligatory violence.

Most importantly, this movie is NOT misogynistic, nor is it homophobic - in fact there’s one sequence where Eminem’s defending a gay guy and he calls the gay guy “gay” and the straight bonehead a “faggot” for insulting the gay guy, so I’m not sure if you’d consider that homphobic. And you will hear some bitchin freestyle rap.

Check this movie out!

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PS - There was a row of kids (like 11 or 12 years old) sitting in front of me, and I was real uncomfortable for them during the sex scenes.

I wouldn’t take the kids to see this, folks.

Ah, yes, I’m looking forward to this. I’m not a huge rap fan, but I found Eminem’s music to be pretty cool. Plus, I always got the impression that he’d be a very good performer onscreen.

He plays a rapper, a character based on his own life. What a stretch.

Ya know, I could be damned convincing in a film based on MY life where I basically play myself.

Yeah, no kidding. I went with my dad and my sister (age 13) and that was more than a bit uncomfortable. :eek: Very… intense scene there. Ah well, I survived.

I agree that Eminem did a very good job. He was completely believable. Yeah, it’s based on his life, but not everyone can rise to the challenge of being himself in front of a camera. Aren’t all the movies based on music stars lives that have bombed proof enough of that?

I think my favorite scene was when Rabbit and Future (think that’s his name) are talking while Rabbit’s repairing his car. He really came alive during the scene; one of the only times in the movie he seemed if not happy, then at least not sad.

One reviewer put it best: “He lets Eminem’s eyes do all the acting.” It might sound corny, but they make us believe.

You know I’ve heard this idea a couple of times (not just about this movie) and I’m wondering is there any proof?

I mean it seems just as intuitive and obvious that characters closer to the actor are harder to portray. The reasoning for thisis that if the character is so close to the way the actor really is the differences are going to be harder to remember. The little details of the actor are going to seep into the character much more.

Of course I know jack-diddly about acting but it seems to me that making your self convincing to an audience is not the same as being yourself in a fictionalized setting.

You know I’ve heard this idea a couple of times (not just about this movie) and I’m wondering is there any proof?

I mean it seems just as intuitive and obvious that characters closer to the actor are harder to portray. The reasoning for thisis that if the character is so close to the way the actor really is the differences are going to be harder to remember. The little details of the actor are going to seep into the character much more.

Of course I know jack-diddly about acting but it seems to me that making your self convincing to an audience is not the same as being yourself in a fictionalized setting.

No offense, but if you can’t act, you can’t act. Doesn’t matter if you don’t need to stretch much to find a character.

[Studio exec.] So how can we get all the gay people that Eminem has offended with his completely homophobic assholery for the last several years to go see the movie? That’s a big crowd…

Oh, I know! We’ll throw in a scene where Em is nice to a gay guy, that’ll probably make them forget all about it! I wonder what other groups we can patronize to sell some more tickets… [/Studio exec.]

Interesting… once in a workshop (I act) i did a scene where we (the actors) were told "don’t act. Don’t play a part, just play it straight, as if this situation is what’s happening).

I was essentially playing myself.

It was damn hard. Firstly, it was unpredictable - I couldn’t take on a character to influence the outcome, and I invested a lot more of myself into the performance. When I was meant to be asking for a second date (the scene we were performing), I was screwing up and bumbling as if it was real, because essentially it was.

At the end, I felt very bare and exposed, but it also turned out a greta performance.

Don’t assume that just because you are playing a character based on yourself that it is easy. I think it would be much easier playing a totally different character.

So have you actually seen the movie or is this just a prejudiced assumption? Because I HAVE seen it and it didn’t seem at all condenscending or unpleasant to me. In fact, the main point of the scene wasn’t even to protect the gay guy; that was incidental. Rabbit’s motives were many and varied. YMMV, naturally.

Tanaqui

I agree. In my opinion, having a whole different set of character traits would make it very easy to keep yourself hidden and protected.

I was kinda shocked to find out Eminem’s 30 years old. I figured him for younger.

When I saw it earlier today there were several parents with young children there. One child could have only been 5 or 6. While the kids were well behaved, this isn’t anywhere near an appropriate film for them to see. Isn’t it rated R? Even if it was PG13 I still think they shouldn’t have seen it. I’m not sure what the parents were thinking nor the box office attendant who sold them the tickets.

They carded me when I bought my tickets. I’m 26.

I saw it last night. Living in Detroit getting tickets was no easy task, but it was worth it. The theater was packed and the atmosphere was absolutely electric. The entire theater broke out into applause and cheering after Rabbits championship battle. Also, I agree, the scene with Rabbit and Future working on the car and making up alternative lyrics to “sweet home alabama” was priceless.

As an aside, please don’t base your entire preception of Detroit on this movie. While the places you see certainly do exist(hell I used to hang out in a lot of the places in that movie), they left out all the nice parts of the city. It’s really nowhere near as bad as this movie made it seem.

I posted part of this review on a similar cafe thread last night, so apologies to those who have already read it.

I just got back from seeing this movie. I have to say that I did not know much about Eminem, except a couple of his more unavoidable hits. I’ve never paid much attention to rap music or hip-hop. I’m an old school metal head and classic rock fan. I grew up on Black Sabbath and AC/DC and Led Zeppelin. I like music with guitars in it.

The only reason I went to this is because it was a part of my job. I work with Disabled people. On friday nights I have a client with mild CP and MR who likes to go to movies. (Hey, it beats flipping burgers) This guy is a huge Eminem fan who has been dying to see this movie for ages. So I took him tonight.

I expected nothing from this movie. I expected to see a badly acted, formulaic, “Cool As Ice” style crapfest with lots of lousy rap songs.

To my great surprise, I liked it quite a bit. It is flawed. many of the supporting characters are just hackneyed cliches, and it is somewhat formulaic and predictable, but Em himself is quite engaging. (I also liked Mekhi Pheifer’s performance in the film)

I don’t know much about Eminem’s alleged homophobia and/or misogyny, but there was none of that in this film. The scene where he defends a gay coworker ("…he’s gay, you’re a faggot.") is not as contradictory as it may seem to read about it. He is using the term ironically, divorcing it from its literal meaning and turning it inside out so as to disparage the homophobe. This kind of “flipping” is characteristic of the verbal duels portrayed in the movie. The scene does not seem cynical or contrived. It works with the flow of the movie and Eminem seems genuine and sincere in how he plays it. I am not a person who has any tolerance for gay bashing. I don’t know what Em has said in the past about gay people, but in the MOVIE, at least he did not seem homophobic.

In fact Em mostly comes off as pretty soft spoken and mild throughout the movie. The scenes with his little sister are surprisingly touching and sincere.

His rage explodes through his raps, which are raw and visceral, but (at least in the movie) don’t seem hateful or violent.

The best scenes in the movie by far are those involving the brutal rap “battles” which Em participates in at a local club. These contests showcase some amazingly nimble-witted extemporaneous rhyming in a venue where verbal acuity and intelligence is valued more than guns and machismo.

I especially liked the final battle of the movie, which was handled in a very clever and satisfying way.

And I really liked the music. I cannot overstate what an extraordinary statement this is for me. I HATE rap. I HATE hip-hop.
But this Eminem is just…different. There is something sort of mesmerizing about the way he uses words and rhythms. I spent several years trying to be a professional musician and songwriter. I know a lot about music, I know a lot about songwriting, and I know talent when I hear it. This kid is no dummy. There is some authentic genius in what he does with this genre. I don’t know exactly what he has said about women and gays in the past. It is my understanding that much of it was intended to be symbolic or hyperbolic.Maybe he really is a misogynist, homophobic thug. I don’t know. He doesn’t come across like that in the movie.

I think it says something about the movie, (and Em himself) that a guy like me, who is from a different generation, who loathes rap music, and who knew next to nothing about Eminem left the theater thoroughly entertained and seriously contemplating purchasing some of Eminem’s CD’s.

So how do you think this movie would fare with someone like me, who hates Eminem’s music and/or pop culture persona? I don’t mean just hating hip-hop in general, but specifically disliking everything ever done by Eminem. Are the story and Em’s performance engaging enough that I wouldn’t be annoyed as all hell to watch it?

It was an R movie. They were carding and checking tickets in the huge line to get into the theatre, which naturally resulted in further delays. The line was indeed huge (as could only be expected, I guess, especially since this is Oregon and there’s nothing else to do in the damn state) and sadly we were positioned under some brightly flashing, epileptic-seizure inducing neon lights for most of the time.

Me too! Almost as strange as finding that most of the members of Blink182 have already hit it or are approaching that age as well. :eek:

I guess if you hate him you hate him. There is nothing offensive about him in the movie itself. I wasn’t drawn in by the story so much as by Em himself and by the battle scenes. Maybe it helped that I was pretty much indifferent to him one way or the other. I had no prejudice about him. I’ve heard a lot about his alleged misogyny and homophobia but I really don’t know exactly what he has said. Maybe it would change my mind if I did.