A Favor for Mark Serlin

I know it’s horribly unethical to add a post to a thread one has only scanned, so sue me. I see a recurring theme on certain threads that I don’t understand. It goes like this:

  1. I don’t look like a model (I’m heavy/have non-poofy hair/don’t use frangrances/etc.)but I really don’t care, because I’m completely happy with myself exactly how I am.

  2. Guys like Mark Serlin (who have specific things they find attractive in women - and those attributes don’t describe me)are total assholes and pathetic cretins who don’t deserve the time of day.

  3. It REALLY sends me on an emotional rampage that guys like Mark Serlin don’t find me sexually attractive.

JillGat, I think your statements fall apart about halfway into number two. I don’t think those individuals had a problem with Mark not finding them attractive. I rather think they would be very unsettled to find that Mark was attracted to them.

I think their problem was with the fact that Mark’s posts seemed to imply that these women were somehow less valuable people who were doing him and society a disservice by not fitting into a very small set of cultural beauty standards.

His posts paint fat people as sloppy, lazy, uncaring, belligerent and worthless. While I don’t think anyone could argue that there aren’t fat people who fit that bill, to characterize all overweight people like that is just stupidly prejudiced. When this was pointed out to him, Mark would then go in and dig himself deeper, offering quite deranged theories as to how society got fatter (seems to have something to do with children not being beaten severely enough). Most people have by now figured out that Mark is at best, a troll and at worst, mentally unstable.

No one’s asking Mark to find them sexy. They’re just asking him to develop a bit more tolerance for people who don’t look like Charlie’s Angels.

-L


Leslie Irish Evans
http://leslie.scrappy.net

I suggest you go back and do more than scan then come back and report your thoughts on corporal punishment to keep kids thin, overweight people who are valued less because ALL are lazy, sloppy, pigs, and the need for women to fluff their hair and cover their natural body smell in order to turn a man on in bed.

Oh, and JFTR - I am not fat, I have fluffed my hair on occasion, and today I smell of Bath and Bodyworks Cucumber Melon spray.

>^,^<
KITTEN
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

Cucumber melon?! Eeeeeeew, vegetables and fruit! (I have the diet range of an 8-year-old – veggies and fruits are icky-poo to me.)
Oh, BTW, kellibelli said to Mark:

Careful, Kelli – he might take that as a compliment!


The truth, as always, is more complicated than that.

[[I rather think they would be very unsettled to find that Mark was attracted to them.]]

Well yeah, that’s what I would have expected.

[[ Most people have by now figured out that Mark is at best, a troll and
at worst, mentally unstable.

No one’s asking Mark to find them sexy. They’re just asking him to
develop a bit more tolerance for people who don’t look like Charlie’s
Angels.]]

If the first sentence is true, then why does anyone care enough to work hard on the second part; reforming him? I’ll be dropping this now.

Jill, Mark has claimed that he has worked in both the medical and psychiatric fields. If true, this is scary to think that someone of his opinions would have ANY patient contact. I think that possibly he was an orderly in a hospital or mental ward. But I still would not want to be a patient under his care, even if it only involved him bringing me blanket.

He has repeatedly stated that fat people disgust him, except for those who have a medical condition. I suspect that this last is because (he says) he’s gained some weight himself after an accident. He does not say how he is able to discern whether a person has an underlying medical condition.

Basically, he doesn’t seem to regard fat people as real people. For that matter, he doesn’t seem to regard women as real people, women are only on this planet for his viewing and fucking pleasure.


Lynn the Packrat

WOW - Talk about a thread hijack.

Anyhow. . . .

The Cucumber Melon body spray from Bath and Bodyworks may sound a little bizarre, but it is heavenly! It is just a pleasantly clean smell that isn’t overwelming or perfumy (is that a word?).

Jill - Before you form too high of an opinion of Dipshit Serlin, you really should take a few minutes and read the crap this freak has written. You will see why so many people have a hard time with him and it doesn’t have anything to do with him not finding them attractive.

Do you whip your kids? According to Gimpoid, you better unless you want them to turn into fat, lazy slobs.


>^,^<
KITTEN
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

I’m not defending Serlin. And I’m not ashamed to say that I scan stuff like this compared to some other threads (though maybe in this case I shouldn’t post on threads like this). If what some of you say is true, then he has posted some appalling stuff. I was responding to the posts by women I’ve seen here and there who seem offended that they don’t meet his standards.

Oh, yes, that is it! I don’t meet his standards and I am so irrevocably hurt that I find it difficult to go on! Oh, the pain! My heart! My flat hair! My naturally scented crotch! Dear GOD, I wail! Why can’t I reek of plastic and Channel Number 5 just so that I can attract this man?! If only I could lose 150 pounds and be that svelte 40 pound child that he so desires… it is to CRY! If only 20 of those pounds were in my breasts, then, then I think… Yes! He could be mine! Yes, I would willing submit to a lobotomy, to just about any procedure, to win his love and respect, no matter how transitory it would be…

Oh, man, I’m sorry! That just got me really laughing… No flame to you, JillGat, just that I couldn’t seem to help myself. I’ve been so good lately. I’ve not fed the trolls, nor have I really stomped on anyone… this is just so funny to me. I have no problem with someone, anyone, discussing what they find attractive in their mates. I really don’t. What I object to is his insistence that his opinions and his beliefs are the ONLY way. He doesn’t seem to get that many of us, male and female, do not agree with him.

And then that same poster running in here, defending him, hinting at some “secret” that he has about “another poster” that he won’t share because he has some scruples or something… Dear God! Hold the fort down because I am laughing so hard I have to go pee! Ooooo! What IS the secret? Dare we ASK? Dare we even hint around it’s flimsy edges?


Best!
Byz

<font face=‘Trebuchet MS’>**I see that you are still bitching, BYZ. You must have a pix posted somewhere that one can determine if your size is as big as your mouth.

Point here: I never INSISTED that mine was is the ONLY way. Please correct me if I am wrong by showing me one example. True, I have no use for fat folks, but I made it clear that such was my opinion only and not necessarily anyone else’s. It was not brought up in my last OP concerning what a man sees in a woman when making love. At least, not until you and a few others dumped it in there. I’m not alone in that opinion concerning ‘plumpers’ either, or else would not have drawn the massive amount of hateful fire back. Those who have experienced negative comments concerning their size are often the first to respond to any perceived slander.

Now, back to the subject. Below is an excerpt from the post. Just where in it do I state that this is the only way? Did I not point out that this was only PART of what a man observes and feels? So, after stating that, why was I attacked?

<font color=“Red”>THIS IS ONLY FROM THE MAN’S POINT OF VIEW AND DOES NOT INCLUDE WHAT HE WOULD BE DOING FOR HIS PARTNER. IT IS ASSUMED THAT IF HE IS THIS PERCEPTIVE, THEN HE WOULD BE SEEING TO HIS PARTNERS NEEDS.</font color"Red"> (GOT IT? THIS IS NOT SELFISH, NOT EGOCENTRIC AND SO ON. THIS IS JUST ONE PART OF A VIEW.)
Good guys, and not those just interested in dumping their load as fast as possible, watch for many things in their partner. (NOTICE, I SAID WATCH, WHICH INDICATES THAT HE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO ALL OF HIS LADY.) Especially the face, if they are on the bottom. They’ll notice if the woman is slightly smiling, if her eyes are closed and how her hair falls around her face, even if the hair is back lit by some soft room lighting. "Big or puffy’ hair can hang around a woman’s face like an ethereal halo, shining, sparkling and accenting her looks tremendously. (The woman who takes extra time to do her hair before sex, in my book, is a real PLUS!)

Ok. So what was offensive about that? If your man doesn’t do that automatically in the sexual act, then you probably are screwing a stone. Your hostilities came out because of my fat comment and not what was in this post.

A man notices the scent and smell of a woman, her hair wash, her perfume and even the soap she used to bath with. A good perfume can linger in his hindbrain long after the act is over. (The scent of herbal essence green apples shampoo STILL reminds me of a girl I knew over 20 years ago.)

So, you mean to tell me that none of you mouthy women have any ex-boyfriends out there who remember your perfume as well as yourself long, long after an intimate encounter? You do not recall how a special man wore some fragrance you recall long afterwards, especially if you happen to smell it later on?

If not, then I should be the one who pities you. Now, you all jumped on the attack by stating that I said this was the ONLY way and accused me of being selfish by not considering the other aspects of the person, but did I not state that it was not the ONLY way and did I not point out to you that I was describing only ONE of many aspects of making love?

Or did your little, hot, maniacal brains choose to ignore those simple facts?

Gee, I wonder how many of you puritans out there secretly have met a person of a body form, size, color, nationality or creed which YOU cannot stand but don’t admitt to it? If so, then your attack of me is unjustified.

BYZ: If your weight did not turn me off towards you, the filthy, sarcastic mouth you actually eat with, would have. Anyone who can glibly come up with such insults and slander without pause and has obviously had much practice with them is not what I would consider a nice person. When you take so much obvious joy in ridiculing another, that indicates an insecure and potentially hostile personality. Please, by all means enjoy your misery.

JILL: Any form of perceived defense of any of my posts by you will be met with hostility, suspicion and derivement.


Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”

Mark! Hey! Your last post was so long ago! I’m glad that I can STILL draw you out!

SUCKER!

Best!
Byz

I don’t like beating a dead horse, but I have no problem pounding a live jackass.

Listen carefully, Mark. My problem is that you have taken it upon yourself to speak for Men. Observe the following pearls from your previous post.

Here’s a little motto you should learn to live by: Make “I” statements. As in “…what I see in a woman…”, “…I notice the scent and smell…”

Do not presume to speak for Men. You wanna share the things that get your own personal motor runnin’? Swell. Qualifiy it as such and post it in the appropriate forum. But talking about “what men want” is damn ridiculous. You and I both have Y chromosomes. The similarity pretty much ends there.

Just between us men, the word is derision.


If I wanted smoke blown up my ass, I’d be at home with a pack of cigarettes and a short length of hose.

Hooray! Mark’s back!

(This bullfight was getting pretty boring with all of these toreadors and no bull.)

Kicking back to watch the show,

Leslie


Leslie Irish Evans
http://leslie.scrappy.net

You guys made my week - I’m so glad to see the Mark-bash back at the top of the board. I’d stayed out of the Mark debate until now, but I just can’t resist…

Did anyone but me notice Mark’s amazing career list? He said somewhere (I’ll be damned before I go looking it up) that he had training as a medical professional. Then in another place he mentioned being or having been a professional cook or a chef. Another career choice was as businessman/ courier type person. In addition to all these careers, he has managed to find the time to work out and maintain his svelt, and dare I say it - girlish - figure. Plus he can use HTML to make bold text. (How many of you lugs can say that, huh?) Now, add to that the fact that he is fluent in the Language of Love, and Knows What He Wants In A Woman. There’s only one conclusion to be drawn here, people, and that is that MARK SERLIN IS THE GOD OF YOU!!! Worship this man! Starve yourselves and get perms so that you too may bask in his glory! Learn from the wisdom he shares so willingly with us!! Halleluia, or however the fuck you spell it! Praise be to Mark!

Ha ha that was fun.


It may be that when an ornithologist says the Water Ouzel walks under the water, he only means that he has seen a Water Ouzel or some other bird sitting on a stone in the general vicinity of a body of water.
–Will Cuppy

Yeah that is what I mean. I don’t like people who smell like chemicals. I don’t wear perfume. Don’t own any. WOULDN’T WEAR IT IF I DID. It’s gross.

Here is my impression of someone meeting Mark for the first time:
<p align=center><img src=http://fathom.org/opalcat/seeingmarks.jpg>



Teeming Millions: http://fathom.org/teemingmillions
“Meat flaps, yellow!” - DrainBead, naked co-ed Twister chat
O p a l C a t
www.opalcat.com

**OPALCAT: I didn’t know you could do SELF portrates! NOW I understand why you spend most of your time at home, in a dark room, desperately prowling the internet.

If you choose not to wear perfume, then fine! Stink like road-kill on a hot summers day for all I care. Out of 100 average women in the United States above the age of 21, 95 will wear some form of perfume.

Out of 100 average men in the United States, over the age of 21, 88.4 will wear colonge.

Obviously, with BILLIONS being made in the perfume industry for men and women, SOMEBODY is wearing it, which reduces you to a minority and therefore below the average norm.

You probably used unscented soap also, or that good old fashioned lye soap, preferring the ‘natural’ musky smell a human body gives off late in the day.


Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”

Back it up with a cite, otherwise we can assume it is simply more of your bullshit. Maybe one of your imaginary friends can back you up, eh?


>^,^<
KITTEN
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

Um, whatever Mark. What an idiot.
PS: the smell of perfume on top of body stench is far worse than the body odor itself. I’d rather just smell CLEAN. (I take a lot of baths)



Teeming Millions: http://fathom.org/teemingmillions
“Meat flaps, yellow!” - DrainBead, naked co-ed Twister chat
O p a l C a t
www.opalcat.com

Whoo hoo! And just in time for Christmas, too. Nothing like the continued entertainment of Mark Serlin. I nominate him for SDMB Jester.

:::pops GND a beer, passes her the Doritos:::

Yes, I think Mark’s a creep. And I’m THIN!