Even if uou think it’s a hoax, it’s still rather interesting
Original:
http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm
Commentary:
http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-7.htm
no different than all the other people who have claimed to talk to UFOs and heard messages. the messages are usually similiar too. More advanced aliens want us to become happy and religious and that bad time is a comin’.
I worry about aliens who don’t appreciate the diffence between a fulcrum and a hand hold. But other than that it’s totally convincing. That they are “technically equipped to materialise!” is a great relief, even if it does sound vaguely dirty.
Even if they are similar it doesn’t automatically mean it’s false and besides the way thing are going today, some ecological and political disasters in the near future don’t seem all that far fetched. But it’s your choice what you think of it (of course).
Then what’s the question? Either there is enough evidence to suggest that it might be genuine, or there isn’t. You seem to be admitting that there isn’t. (I certainly didn’t see any.)
In my opinion there is enough evidence to suggest it might be real. At the moment I can’t know if it is or isn’t, I can’t make your choices. You decide what you think of it. I have merely brought you the information I think should be forwarded in case if it really is genuine.
Here’s a well-used phrase for you…
“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.”
And I’m not seeing any there. It’s not worth wasting time on.
It’s not a hoax. It’s the ranting of a lunatic. After reading all the linked pages except the French ones, I find it impossible to tell where the text came from. Divine revelation? Golden plates? Stone tablets? Fortune cookie? Spam?
Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you will do with this message which matters!
Hehe, first link and first sentence. I wish everyone in life would so clearly advertise when they are pulling things out of their rear!
Musicat nails this one! Unadulterated dreck. And Jonathan Chance has the correct attitude.
It’s not even an interesting hoax. It’s the same old nonsense.
Well, it is indeed quite easy to say it’s hoax, yet I assume none of you making the claim have the proof. If you do please share it.
Does that straw attract fleas in the summer?
Sorry, genome, burden of proof’s on the person making the extraordinary claim, NOT on the persons presuming a mundane explanation.
Genome, did you not read Jonathan Chance’s post? YOU are the one making the extraordinary claim; YOU are the one that must provide the extraordinary evidence.
And just what is your claim? That for the first time ever, a rambling message in French, conveyed by telepathy and posted on the Internet is an actual interstellar communication? A concept that might rock scientific thought today?
Otherwise, the rational explanation is that this is only a made-up rant of a nutcase. Why are you so quick to believe? Doesn’t ANYTHING about this look ridiculous?
Yes, I read Jonathan Chances post. And you’d be right if I would be claiming that this message is genuine, but I have not made such claim. As I told before I don’t know if it’s real, it might be hoax, but I don’t have information to declare that, and it seems noone else has either. The message itself makes somewhat sense no matter where it came from and I think at least reading it with open mind won’t hurt anyone.
Geocities?!? With all that technology, you’d think they could afford a decent web host, and a good designer.
Minds shouldn’t be too open. It lets too many bugs in. That’s why we should all have screens.
IMHO, this thread belongs in MPSIMS.
genome, I don’t think “open mind” means what you think it means. An “open” but uncritical mind is about as useful as a house with no walls.
genome
I realize that the odds are that you joined the SDMB just so you could post this “message.” Nonetheless, on the off chance that you’ll be hanging around, there are a couple of things you should know.
First, Here on the SDMB, we apply pretty rigorous standards of inquiry. Under those standards, and within the context of GQ, (which is used only for questions that have factual answers) the unequivocal answer to your OP’s title is “Not a snowball’s chance in hell.”
If you want to debate whether this message is, ahh, valid, you’d want to post in Great Debates. This, however, requires you to post an actual thesis and be prepared to back it up with logic and citations to actual evidence. Frankly, though, something like this (if it really fits anywhere on the SDMB) probably ought to go to IMHO.
Sorry if this comes across as “junior modding.” I don’t believe it is since it’s pretty basic stuff that everyone who’s spent any time here knows. I’m just trying to hook up a brother.
Well, what is too open anyway. We don’t know everything in this world, in fact one might say that we don’t know very much at all.
Anyway my intention wasn’t really start debating over my point of view. Just read the article if you want to and ignore it if that suits you better. I can’t tell you what to think about it, you’ll do that yourself, I just don’t see any point declaring it as a hoax without any proof.