I agree that is pretty unique to the SDMB, but only in the Pit. I’m not trying to be snotty but if that’s the sort of thing that bothers you, you’d probably be much happier not even reading or posting in the pit. Many people don’t.
The point is that the two threads were not unrelated.
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I didn’t get very far in that thread at all. I never agreed with PRR and his very inept defenses of his points just bugged me.
Clearly, everyone here thinks it’s fine to pile on a ‘hated’ poster in any thread, no matter what that poster writes. I get that. I don’t understand why and never will.
Do you see what I’m saying? So you hate Liberal (or PRR or me) with a burning fury. And the object of your hate posts a post about gardening that is about flowers and dirt and in no way controversial. You’re saying to me that it’s fine for you (again, the general) to insult his person mercilessly in the flower thread about his flower post just because he had the temerity to type some words. OK. If that’s how you guys play, that’s how you play. I would have liked one person to explain why they think it’s ok and not awfully mean to do but nobody seems to want to.
No, I lie. Someone said that he doesn’t actually intend to hurt and is just blowing off words and steam. And if that’s the case, fine. If, however, hurt is intended, well, I just don’t get that.
I think most people who do bad things are just not very well. Not mean or bad, just not functioning all that well.
Actually I have to agree with QG on this one. That thread saw people come blazing in on Liberal, mostly because he is Liberal. However this is exactly what **Liberal ** did to **PRR ** in the final **PRR ** thread.
Your intention failed to come through, the question is condescending. “Tell me, have you stopped beating your kids?” is just a question. This was obviously a question that will anger people. Your question was condescending even if you cannot see it and did not intend it. That is why I said you might want to work on it. You appear to be oblivious to how your writing style comes across.
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Bullshit. If there was anything else you’d rather be doing right now, you’d be doing it. Unless there’s someone there with you at the computer with a gun to your head? You would actually make me less impatient if these whiny protestations contained even an iota of believability.
I am unfamiliar with the verb “to slang,” but I think I take your meaning. No one “slanged” you for not answering publicly. Two posters directed questions at you that you did not come back to answer before the thread was closed. Two other posters wondered where you went. All four of those posters have e-mail. There was no reason for you to open a separate thread “offering” to answer their questions. You could have answered their questions privately. You could have sent THEM PMs. You didn’t have to open your very own “look at me!” thread.
A meeting? About YOU? Listen, trust me on this: The only person on this whole board who cares that much about you is you.
Oh. Ok. Well, I guess when I see those folks, I figure they’re kind of short of friends and so use boards as a sort of support mechanism-slash-online journal.
Yes, thanks.
Hm. 
You know, if one person had answered me 'way back at the beginning, this would be over. And I’m glad you’re enjoying classifying me as an AW. Whatever makes you happy, dear. 
What person or what answer?
I do agree with you about that. When I see that happen I assume there may be some sort of history between the two that I’m unaware of. I don’t dislike Liberal or PRR, I just didn’t agree that the bet was a good thing.
I wasn’t asking about rules. I was asking to understand people’s motivations.
Which takes me right back to the hypothetical cooking thread. Anyway, I get it. It’s ok on this board to attack a person personally no matter what he or she posts or why. Or forum. I always mix up the big thing with the sub-things.
Dude, like I said to someone else, if you’re going to attack, coordinate. I’m either a) evading public scrutiny by offering to answer questions via PM or b) an attention whore for answering questions publicly. :rolleyes:
What in heck does it have to do with the hypothetical cooking thread? In this example, the cooking thread would have nothing to do with the Pit thread. In the real-life case that we are discussing, the 2nd Pit thread (the “Liberal, I’m not Pitting You, but…”) thread DIRECTLY REFERENCES BACK to a very recent thread that was an actual pitting of Liberal. If you think that your cooking example is analagous to that, then I don’t really know how else to explain that it’s not.
How else would I ask what I want to know? Does everybody read other meanings into questions other than that they are just questions? (and those are actual questions).
You’re an attention whore for starting this thread in the first place AND you attempted to evade public scrutiny by offering to PM people instead of answering the questions in this very thread, that you yourself started. So no, you’re not “either;” you’re actually both.
So it’s OK for Liberal and others to beat up on PRR. You will not take them to task for that because PRR bugs you, but you will defend Liberal, a right bully himself, when the mood takes you. But you can’t see why people think you are full of shit. Huh. It all strikes me as quite disingenuous of you, and hypocritical.
You are totally incorrect. It is not fine to pile on a hated poster in any thread. Where the hell did you get that idea? Sure, snarking happens elsewhere, but that behavior is reserved for the Pit, and Mods can and will censure posters who make personal attacks in other fora. This forum is for venting spleen. If you don’t like it… GO AWAY. Hie thee to the other fora. Lecturing people and trying to make them feel guilty about using this forum for its intended purpose is obnoxious, wrong-headed, and sanctimonious. Especially when you do it selectively and think it’s OK if someone gets picked on who bugs you.
I’m saying that? No, I’m not. YOU are saying that. I (and we) are saying, it’s OK to do it in the Pit. I don’t think anyone is saying it’s OK to do anywhere else. Board rules back this up. Please indicate where someone is saying that slagging off on people you hate everywhere on the board is condoned or allowed.
“If that’s how you guys play.” As if you don’t have 1000+ posts, many of them in the Pit. As if your straw man about how we “play” that way all over the SDMB is remotely valid. As if this statement isn’t saturated in schoolmarm condescension. And as if you’re oblivious to how idiotic you sound.
Oh, quit fucking preaching. This is the Pit. It’s like a boxing ring. Punches can and should be thrown here so they are not thrown elsewhere. Ill will is going to be engendered on a board like this, and it’s only natural and normal for people to want to express it, openly and in depth. Giving people shit about it as you are is prudishly absurd, in denial of human nature. As you say, it’s just words on the screen, so how much can it REALLY hurt someone if they have a sense of proportion? Don’t read it if it really hurts you. Reading the Pit, indeed, reading the entire, mean, nasty, hurtful, awful SDMB is not necessary. Lay on the couch and watch TV, save your strength, will you?
Generally speaking, people, in general, who post general attacks about people and then turn around and chastise others about personal attacks, generally speaking, are nitwits.
People’s motivations are none of your fucking business. And you assumed their motivations in the worst possible way, by calling them"vultures" etc., so don’t pretend you were sincerely inquiring. If you had been, you would have asked first and judged after.
First, to clarify what I meant with my very own useless examples of what does or doesn’t constitute an attention whore, I completely agree with what you’ve said. Whenever I’ve been particularly depressed (or whatever) and I’ve come on the boards bemoaning my life, it’s because I wanted a friend. Even if that meant I had to get it in a cyber way. However, I can still see how others would brand it as attention-whoring in addition to seeking help, etc. It can be both.
Now, about how ‘tone’ comes across, you just said this in post #183:
Now, you’re talking to Ruby but you include everyone in the thread (or at the very least, that’s how it comes across probably from the “everyone here” part) whether they’ve stated they do this or not. For example, I’m sure several people have directly said that they don’t hate Liberal and I’m sure many others haven’t weighed in with an opinion one way or another. So, that comes across as grossly unfair and definitely inaccurate. I believe, and if I’m wrong someone please correct me, but that’s what gets a lot of backs up and leads to them feeling ‘lectured.’
Or that’s the way it appears to me.
[Oh, and for the record I’d like to state that Liberal is okay by me, but I do completely understand how others feel. I would have no problem replying to an innocuous post of his, even in the pit. I have no desire to bitch at someone for attention-whoring (or whatever is the topic du jour) when all they’re talking about is shopping for stillettos. But that’s just me and I’d personally like, if possible, to not be lumped into any category I’m not a part of. Thank you. I’m now off to join Crazy Folks Inc. :)]